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I killed a chicken yesterday

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,211 ✭✭✭Susie_Q


    Um all meat is killed! I hate this congnitive dissonance some people have that they are perfectly happy to eat the muscles, fat, veins, tendons, liver, kidneys of an animal as long as they dont have to see how its actually gotten. Either accept that blood goes everywhere when you kill and butcher an animal or become a vegan


    I know that all meat is killed. I'm a meat eater and I know where my food comes from. But I had never before ordered meat when the animal was still alive and watch it killed and prepared in front of me. I suppose growing up in Ireland enabled me to create a huge distance between an animal I see in a field and the nicely packaged meat products on the supermarket shelf.

    For the people who said I should have eaten it, I honestly wonder if you would say the same thing if you had seen the state of this poor chicken. I'm living in a small town in a poor country and the chickens are in bits; very scrawny with half their feathers missing and not very healthy looking. I had been craving meat very badly which is why I wanted to try it out; I don't think I will be doing it again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Sky King wrote: »
    Ever been in an abbatoir? Now THAT'S an eye opener!

    I thought they were more of an eye closer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,999 ✭✭✭Conall Cernach


    Don't feel bad OP.
    I've choked manys a chicken - never felt a seconds remorse for it either;)
    I always suffer from wangst afterwards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Susie_Q wrote: »
    I know that all meat is killed. I'm a meat eater and I know where my food comes from. But I had never before ordered meat when the animal was still alive and watch it killed and prepared in front of me. I suppose growing up in Ireland enabled me to create a huge distance between an animal I see in a field and the nicely packaged meat products on the supermarket shelf.

    For the people who said I should have eaten it, I honestly wonder if you would say the same thing if you had seen the state of this poor chicken. I'm living in a small town in a poor country and the chickens are in bits; very scrawny with half their feathers missing and not very healthy looking. I had been craving meat very badly which is why I wanted to try it out; I don't think I will be doing it again.

    fair enough. I came accross a bit harse there, sorry about that. Im glad you wont be eating it again, if people saw the state of battery farmed chickens in this country a lot less would eat it too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    Um all meat is killed! I hate this congnitive dissonance some people have that they are perfectly happy to eat the muscles, fat, veins, tendons, liver, kidneys of an animal as long as they dont have to see how its actually gotten. Either accept that blood goes everywhere when you kill and butcher an animal or become a vegan

    Many people would be put off by seeing the actual animal killed. People can like meat without ever seeing it killed, amazingly enough.

    Meat eating without seeing any animal killed is just one of many things we do and take for granted due to modern convenience. And very often the reality if ever faced can be a bit shocking for many.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,370 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    if people saw the state of battery farmed chickens in this country a lot less would eat it too

    Yea id say your right there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    Protip, Vegetarian-like morality and the food chain don't mix.

    I feel sorry for veggies though. But I agree meat is murder, tasty tasty murder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 156 ✭✭Fieldies Dreams


    Don't feel bad OP.
    I've choked manys a chicken - never felt a seconds remorse for it either;)


    How do you sleep at night you monster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Yes, I hunt and will happily kill and prepare my own food. Not to say it's a pleasant process but like a few people have already said, you definitely appreciate where your food comes from better as a result. Though we're polar opposites on where we came out of that test, I absolutely agree with sensibleken that the cognitive dissonance people display regarding meat products is pretty unsettling. I would always describe myself as an animal lover, and while I will kill and eat them, there's never any malice or contempt or lack of respect on my part.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭F.U.B.A.R


    animal+rights++funny+motivational+posters+hot+free+gag+demotivate+motivationalposters+motivational_posters+%2835%29.jpg


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 186 ✭✭Ben Hadad


    Do what I do.
    Ben Hadad wrote: »
    I was bored in India once and saw a chicken coup selling live chickens with the in house butcher chopping up the next purchased chicken. Felt sorry for them so I bought one for about €4 and tied some string around his neck and brought him walking along the beach for a while. The string wasn't really working too well so mainly had to carry him in my arms. Bought him some food and basically brought him on a date.

    After getting to know each other and meeting some of the locals and other high jinx, I waded into the water and threw him in to the air. I thought it would be funny to release him in this way. He fluttered around and swam/ran away, probably to be mauled by some wild dog, but maybe not.

    He had a better chance of survival due to my actions than where he was. So before the moral brigade get on their NSPCA high horses (is that not literal animal cruelty?), it was mutually beneficial for both of us.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Ben Hadad wrote: »
    Do what I do.

    why would NSPCA people think that was cruel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    You have to objectify the situation.

    Chicken: Modern relative of the Dinasour. If the tables were turned do you think that buzzard wouldn't be neck deep in your innards guzzling to it's hearts content?

    It's in a cage for a reason, you know.....;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 228 ✭✭starch4ser


    How did you do that? Did you choke him?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    You should have pointed at it and shouted "off with his head" and then gave him a thumbs down as you looked into his beady little eyes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    My father used to hunt rabbits and I would eat them when I was a child. As soon as I became old enough to use the cooker myself I stopped eating them. I would usually grill a burger as it was all I could cook. I was still eating meat but the way I saw it someone else would have bought the burger from the supermarket and ate it if I hadn't, whereas I thought if my father knew I wasn't going to eat rabbit he might shoot one less.

    I'm a vegetarian now. Having said that I hope you didn't throw the chicken out. You could have left it somewhere for a passing stray dog to eat. At least then your conscience might have been appeased a little by knowing you were helping another animal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 449 ✭✭Emiko


    Newsflash, all meat has to die to be eaten, I've never seen a cow walking around with bites taken out of it, it has to be dispatched so I can enjoy it's meaty goodness......

    There´s a book called ´The Blue Nile´in which the author describes the 19th century practice of Ethiopians stripping flesh from the posteriors of live cattle, for a quick raw snack, which provided a renewable source of protein.
    Many of Bruce’s observations of Ethiopian culture, such as the
    stripping and eating of raw flesh from live cattle, seemed
    so preposterous to Europeans, that his accurate reports
    were not believed when he later made presentations in
    London and published his journals.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭CrazyRabbit


    Hens tell scary stories to their chicks about me. I'm a mass murdering, serial killing sociopath and I like it.

    I don't care how they die, and it's their own fault for tasting so yummy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    Emiko wrote: »
    There´s a book called ´The Blue Nile´in which the author describes the 19th century practice of Ethiopians stripping flesh from the posteriors of live cattle, for a quick raw snack, which provided a renewable source of protein.

    I stand corrected.

    *grabs salt and heads for the fields*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭Paddycrumlinman


    Watch the Documentary Earthlings and that is some eye opening ****e when it comes to the food that ends up on our tables..

    A must watch for everyone. Sickening how the human population treats other living creatures...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 440 ✭✭nicechick!


    Davidth88 wrote: »
    At least you knew it was fresh !!!!

    I would have no issue with that , I have eaten Lobster, where they pull it fresh out of a tank.

    ha!! Well in fairness you need to cook lobster alive! but did you actually see the lobster slowly die whilst cooking it ....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    nicechick! wrote: »
    ha!! Well in fairness you need to cook lobster alive! but did you actually see the lobster slowly die whilst cooking it ....

    no you dont


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 440 ✭✭nicechick!


    no you dont

    Really from my experience lobster taken directly and placed alive into a pot of boiling water


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    Susie_Q wrote: »
    Well, not directly, but I ordered it's death. Actually, my interpreter did. I'm like the Hitler in this equation; not murdering anyone myself but sending the orders down the ranks to do it. I'm the subcontracting corporation.

    I went to the local market (no Tesco here! Am in Asia) where there is a cage full of mangy-looking chickens and asked to buy one. No problem - the man chopped off its head with a machete and then chatted amiably to us while the headless chicken wriggled and writhed around on the counter in front of us, surrounded by flies. Blood everywhere. He hacked off the feet and then deftly removed the chicken from its skin in one move, like pulling a wet glove off a too-big hand. He pulled out all the guts and at this point looked at me and laughed. He must have seen the look on my face. I forced myself to watch the whole thing, I figured it was only fair if I'm going to eat the chicken to see the process that goes into making it ready for consumption.

    I have been a meat-eater all my life and love eating meat. But I have to say, seeing the chicken killed and butchered in front of me was a bit much. I cooked it at home and between the poor quality of the meat and the queasiness in my stomach I couldn't eat it.

    Would you eat chicken if this was the only way you could get it? i.e. If you had to watch the animal be killed, skinned butchered etc. If, hypothetically, it tasted good.


    I hatch, grow, kill, pluck, bone and roll my own chickens, whats the issue?

    Everyone that eats meat should know that an animal has to die for you to do so.


  • Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Hey veggies!! If you like animals so much then why do you eat all their food?? Eh?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    nicechick! wrote: »
    Really from my experience lobster taken directly and placed alive into a pot of boiling water

    well you shouldnt. its not difficult to kill a lobster before hand.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 440 ✭✭nicechick!


    well you shouldnt. its not difficult to kill a lobster before hand.

    how?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭Haelium


    This is why I think children should be taken to a farm to kill an animal once they reach a certain age. If you eat meat, you should be prepared to kill an animal, distancing yourself doesn't change anything.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    nicechick! wrote: »
    how?

    stab it behind its hind legs then bring the knife down through its head, between the eyes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,221 ✭✭✭pcardin


    Susie_Q wrote: »
    I killed a chicken yesterday. Well, not directly, but I ordered it's death. Actually, my interpreter did.

    Love the stories that start with I did and at the end of story it turns out that I didn't anything. :D


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