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Ireland being RAPED... Norway lead by example!!

  • 27-09-2011 11:21PM
    #1
    SellingJuan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭


    This is a prime example how rich our country actually is. Please support them. Amazing work send to as many people as possible and get this video out there!!
    Ps personal opinion: This country started to go down when we signed over our fishing waters in the 70s.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76VOnzXQMsU


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  • #2
    joshrogan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 855 ✭✭✭joshrogan


    I'll buy Juan barrell of oil off you then please.


  • #3
    pragmatic1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,573 ✭✭✭pragmatic1


    Please make the bad thing stop. I dont like it.


  • #4
    cml387
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,433 ✭✭✭cml387


    Do you know the price of a pint in Norway?

    Well actully neither do I,but I bet it;s humungous.


  • #5
    Keith186
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,271 ✭✭✭Keith186


    cml387 wrote: »
    Do you know the price of a pint in Norway?

    Well actully neither do I,but I bet it;s humungous.

    About €9 I hear.


  • #6
    cml387
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,433 ✭✭✭cml387


    Keith186 wrote: »
    About €9 I hear.


    SEE! SEE!

    End of thread methinks.

    sorry
    /Thread


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  • #7
    SellingJuan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭SellingJuan


    cml387 wrote: »
    SEE! SEE!

    End of thread methinks.

    sorry
    /Thread

    Average sallary? Average tax on your wages!! Thread still open me thinks!!


  • #8
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,920 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah well Norway has Trolls. I saw a documentary about it in the cinema last week - they employ someone to hunt them and all. Crazy **** there!


  • #9
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,125 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Ahh!! Damn socialists wanting to nationalise everything. Bah!!


  • #10
    cml387
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,433 ✭✭✭cml387


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yeah well Norway has Trolls. I saw a documentary about it in the cinema last week - they employ someone to hunt them and all. Crazy **** there!

    And herrings. Don't forget the herrings.


  • #11
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    I hope Irish people begin to take this seriously.


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  • #12
    LostCorkGuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 445 ✭✭LostCorkGuy


    Keith186 wrote: »
    About €9 I hear.

    They don't even use the euro in norway ... The clever bast**ds :/


  • #13
    Gummy Panda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    I thought our oil and gas are hard to get at so companies had to be given attractive terms to invest in it?


  • #14
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Killer Pigeon wrote: »
    Ahh!! Damn socialists wanting to nationalise everything. Bah!!

    I'm no fan of socialism but when it comes to oil in gas I consider it well and truly the birth right of our people.

    They're only to quick to nationalise our failed banks and debts so we should at least follow the Norwegian model of natural resource management.


  • #15
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    More total bull**** about Ireland's alleged oil reserves. The type of thing that is propagated by those who either don't mind telling lies to try to persuade people, or those two stupid and lazy to look into the economics of the oil industry. :rolleyes:


  • #16
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    cml387 wrote: »
    Do you know the price of a pint in Norway?

    Well actully neither do I,but I bet it;s humungous.

    You wouldn't be able to afjord it, that's for sure.


  • #17
    AngeGal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 927 ✭✭✭AngeGal


    SellingJuan wrote: »
    Ps personal opinion: This country started to go down when we signed over our fishing waters in the 70s.

    We were up before the '70s??


  • #18
    Richard tea
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,266 ✭✭✭Richard tea


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Yeah well Norway has Trolls. I saw a documentary about it in the cinema last week - they employ someone to hunt them and all. Crazy **** there!

    Watched it today. Quality film


  • #19
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    More total bull**** about Ireland's alleged oil reserves. The type of thing that is propagated by those who either don't mind telling lies to try to persuade people, or those two stupid and lazy to look into the economics of the oil industry. :rolleyes:

    What do we get out of it though? Go take the oil but don't worry about giving the Irish state much in return.


  • #20
    dsmythy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,594 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=70867166&postcount=47

    This is where I always bring up the above post. Any profits from oil extraction in Ireland are taxed 25% corporation tax. Following is the text of the above post.
    AugustusMinimus wrote: »
    People clearly don't know what they are talking about in regards to Shell and the Corrib Gas field etc.

    1. Ireland granted Shell drilling rights for nothing. This was bad. We could have charged them a few hundred million.

    2. Shell have to put up the costs for exploritory drilling.

    3. The reason we are allowing Shell to drill is that we don't want to pay for the drilling ourselves, in the fear that there may not be any oil out there at all.

    4. While we agreed no amount payable per barrell, it doesn't stop the Irish government in anyway taxing oil extraction at any percentage that they want. Corporation Tax for oil extraction at the moment is 25% of profits. It used to be 50%. There is no reason why this can't be raised to 75% if the Irish government wants.

    5. Even at 75%, it would still be profitable for Shell (hell even at 99% it would be profitable) hence this is a guaranteed solution. And if you're wondering, this is how Libya makes it's money from oil.


    Anyone disagrees, then prove me wrong.


  • #21
    unitedrover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭unitedrover


    Hate the title word raped being applied to other situations....always seems offensive and disrespectful in my view.


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  • #22
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    woodoo wrote: »
    What do we get out of it though? Go take the oil but don't worry about giving the Irish state much in return.
    I don't mean to sound patronising, but you need to understand how the oil industry works and how capital intensive and risky it is. It's too complicated and late for me to explain it here, but the knowledge is out there.

    Having said that, I wouldn't stand over the deals signed by Fianna Failure ministers in years gone by, but the revenue we are losing out on in those particular deals isn't huge, especially considering how feeble our negotiating position was when they were signed.


  • #23
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    I think we should pressurise our government to get every last penny we can out of that oil. They will do nothing unless we apply the P. If we can't drill ourselves, tax to the max.


  • #24
    Killer Pigeon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,125 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    I'm no fan of socialism but when it comes to oil in gas I consider it well and truly the birth right of our people.

    No it shouldn't. If I happened to discover some oil on my land it shouldn't be other people right to just take it for themselves. If you nationalise oil and gas you'll be paying through the nose anyway.
    Chuck Stone wrote: »
    They're only to quick to nationalise our failed banks and debts so we should at least follow the Norwegian model of natural resource management.

    As if nationalising the banks and debt was a good idea :rolleyes:


  • #25
    cml387
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,433 ✭✭✭cml387


    The Irish way is to pressurise companies to drill for oil and then protest when they want to bring it ashore.


  • #26
    naldface
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭naldface


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    More total bull**** about Ireland's alleged oil reserves. The type of thing that is propagated by those who either don't mind telling lies to try to persuade people, or those two stupid and lazy to look into the economics of the oil industry. :rolleyes:

    You'll have to work on your sentence structure. I don't think you're ready to create random sentences yet.


  • #27
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    Killer Pigeon wrote: »
    No it shouldn't. If I happened to discover some oil on my land it shouldn't be other people right to just take it for themselves. If you nationalise oil and gas you'll be paying through the nose anyway. :

    Is there not some rule that you only actually own 3M below ground.


  • #28
    youtube!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,265 ✭✭✭youtube!


    I think the big difference between ourselves and the Norwegians (or just about any other nation on the planet come to think of it) is that we will sit and moan and complain and rant and rave till were blue in the face,but will we actually get up off our collective arse and DO something about it?

    Nah didnt think so.


  • #29
    naldface
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭naldface


    youtube! wrote: »
    I think the big difference between ourselves and the Norwegians (or just about any other nation on the planet come to think of it) is that we will sit and moan and complain and rant and rave till were blue in the face,but will we actually get up off our collective arse and DO something about it?

    Nah didnt think so.

    Explain it in your own words, please. That is, if you don't mind doing so.


  • #30
    Monty Burnz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    naldface wrote: »
    You'll have to work on your sentence structure. I don't think you're ready to create random sentences yet.

    No actual counter-argument then? Didn't think so.


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  • #31
    naldface
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39 ✭naldface


    Monty Burnz wrote: »
    No actual counter-argument then? Didn't think so.

    Ok sure.


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