90k a year and you can sit on your hole

lost marbles · 27-09-2011 12:26PM #1

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/call-for-welfare-pay-cap-as-couple-claim-90k-a-year-168808.html#ixzz1Z9BAlJUe

90k a year from the state :eek::eek: .makes you wonder whos the feckin eejits getting out there and slogging their asses off in jobs for a third of what these are getting sitting on their holes .

az2wp0sye65487 · 27-09-2011 12:30PM

lost marbles wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/call-for-welfare-pay-cap-as-couple-claim-90k-a-year-168808.html#ixzz1Z9BAlJUe

90k a year from the state :eek::eek: .makes you wonder whos the feckin eejits getting out there and slogging their asses off in jobs for a third of what these are getting sitting on their holes .

I can't believe that. I think I'd rather be poor but have my health though rather that take home €90K a year but have a disability and a child with special needs...

Your health is your wealth.

SEPT 23 1989 · 27-09-2011 12:32PM

Balderdash

hondasam · 27-09-2011 12:36PM

I would like to know what disability he has and what special need the child has.
That amount of money from social welfare is a disgrace.

Guill · 27-09-2011 12:36PM

I think this is at least the third thread on this.

hooradiation · 27-09-2011 12:38PM

Oh look, it's this thread again.

Logical Fallacy · 27-09-2011 12:39PM

Guill wrote: »

I think this is at least the third thread on this.

I thought previous stories had it placed in Donegal?

biko · 27-09-2011 12:40PM

This thread has link. Thank you OP.

Guill · 27-09-2011 12:40PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

I thought previous stories had it placed in Donegal?

Ah! Completely different so.

Irish Guitarist · 27-09-2011 12:41PM

If I sat on a hole wouldn't I just fall into it?

sbsquarepants · 27-09-2011 12:42PM

Guill wrote: »

I think this is at least the third thread on this.

hooradiation wrote: »

Oh look, it's this thread again.

It's not compulsary reading.

mkdon05 · 27-09-2011 12:43PM

This family I suspect have high medical related costs. They are claiming benefits that they are entitled to, as the state provides them.
The family at the centre of this should not be highlighted any further as they are doing nothing wrong.
Ireland needs to apply a cap on the amount of state benefits one household recieves, like England recently implemented.

human repellent · 27-09-2011 12:45PM

ah what a country we live in, the land of the free

JustAddWater · 27-09-2011 12:47PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Balderdash

Are you posting from the jacks again??

Phill Ewinn · 27-09-2011 12:49PM

No bother OP. I could fix you up with some brain damage or a couple of broken vertibrae for a small fee. Shure then you could sit on yer hole too. Would that suit you?

Riskymove · 27-09-2011 12:49PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

I thought previous stories had it placed in Donegal?

the Senator reporting the story is from Donegal

I think people just put two and two together and got 5

minikin · 27-09-2011 12:50PM

This family I suspect have high medical related costs.

Medical card!

This is the bit I don't get: they're from Bosnia, not even a member of the E.U.
How do we have any social obligation to them at all? Home you go.

srsly78 · 27-09-2011 12:51PM

They might have been accepted as refugees. That war is over a long time tho, so what does happen to refugees in this situation? They could go home, but are they forced to?

minotour · 27-09-2011 12:52PM

Aren't all those payments listed monthly payments rather than weekly? I certainly dont get CA weekly, if these guys do then i want some, gimme, gimme, gimme

lost marbles · 27-09-2011 12:52PM

Guill wrote: »

I think this is at least the third thread on this.

sorry if i posted it again but i did browse the first few pages of AH and did,nt see it so thought it was fresh .
anyways heres another TRUE CASE that i know of
local family
two adults
three kids [well when i say kids they are in their twentys ]
daughter has three kids for different dads [know where im coming from

]
dad on disabilty ,[feck all wrong ] ,mother of the grandkids came up with this plan as to saying her nerves are shot and she cant take care of them .grandmother fostered the grandkids and gets payed .the whole family are on social .the daughter has a house around the corner payed for by the social thats used as sleeping, party house for herself and the other two kids .
they fall out of taxis wednesday to sunday drunk as monkies .always buying and selling cars ect ,have a great life while the rest of us struggle to keep things afloat .
now i did,nt do the maths on how much the social are paying this household per week but its a hell of alot more than they would get if they had to get off their arses and earn a living .

jester77 · 27-09-2011 12:54PM

Your health is your wealth and no amount of social welfare would ever want me to be in this family's unfortunate situation.

Phill Ewinn · 27-09-2011 12:56PM

If true I might extend my services to them for free

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 27-09-2011 12:56PM

Same stance as in the Doengal one: if the need it, fine. If they don't, prosecute. Specialist care if the condition is genuine is not cheap.

Interestingly, the newspaper never points out what conditions the kids are getting the money for... now why is that, I wonder?

xsiborg · 27-09-2011 01:00PM

if we're going to make a song and dance about this, can we also remind ourselves of the taoiseach's salary, which is more than that of even the British Prime Minister, David Cameron.

if we're going to talk about pure wastes of money for people that appear to us to do nothing, then Enda Kenny, and his predecessor, Brian Cowen, hell even Bertie Ahern, are prime examples of over-payments by the state!

i'd sooner see the salaries and allowances of our so-called political representatives under investigation and review than one single anecdotal social welfare case tbh.

..Brian.. · 27-09-2011 01:00PM

Without knowing all the details of conditions and medical expenses (does the medical card cover the cost of home renovations for special needs? or things like wheel chairs or other necessary living aids?) its a bit premature to jump to conclusions but in all fairness, 90k a year seems a bit much alright!

speedboatchase · 27-09-2011 01:00PM

90k a year from the taxpayer's pockets and yet this thread is still full of apologists, sigh. Are you suggesting that there shouldn't be a welfare cap?

stovelid · 27-09-2011 01:02PM

A brutal and systematic cap on social welfare threads is definitely needed.

sbsquarepants · 27-09-2011 01:03PM

jester77 wrote: »

Your health is your wealth and no amount of social welfare would ever want me to be in this family's unfortunate situation.

This is completely beside the point.
No one is saying "would you swap your health for 90k"
What they are saying is "should 90k of taxpayers money be given to a single (small) family?"
My answer is no.
If this man was able to work, is it likely he'd be earning the 140k needed to take home 90k? Even if himself and his wife were both working, would they be earning 140k? I can't imagine they would, so therefore they are considerably better off by virtue of the fact that they don't work. Despite all the bleeding heart bullshít these threads always attract, how does that make sense to anybody?

inforfun · 27-09-2011 01:06PM

xsiborg wrote: »

if we're going to make a song and dance about this, can we also remind ourselves of the taoiseach's salary, which is more than that of even the British Prime Minister, David Cameron.

if we're going to talk about pure wastes of money for people that appear to us to do nothing, then Enda Kenny, and his predecessor, Brian Cowen, hell even Bertie Ahern, are prime examples of over-payments by the state!

i'd sooner see the salaries and allowances of our so-called political representatives under investigation and review than one single anecdotal social welfare case tbh.

One shouldnt exclude the other.

Kenny earning more than Cameron doesnt seem right.
But that doesnt mean that 90.000 from social welfare is ok because Kenny earns more than Cameron.

Both cases (ministers salaries and social welfare) should be looked at.

minikin · 27-09-2011 01:07PM

..Brian.. wrote: »

Without knowing all the details of conditions and medical expenses (does the medical card cover the cost of home renovations for special needs? or things like wheel chairs or other necessary living aids?) its a bit premature to jump to conclusions but in all fairness, 90k a year seems a bit much alright!

in a word: yes

Sooopie · 27-09-2011 01:07PM

minikin wrote: »

Medical card!

This is the bit I don't get: they're from Bosnia, not even a member of the E.U.
How do we have any social obligation to them at all? Home you go.

Are you serious, fcuking BOSNIA & they're getting 90K a year?

Thats a fcuking JOKE, no wonder this country is in the ****ter & all you bleeding heart liberals can jog right on before you get on yer soap boxes :mad::mad::mad:

90k a year and you can sit on your hole

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