Marian Finucane really on 500k + per year!?

darkman2 · 25-09-2011 02:16PM #1

Read somewhere that MF, who presents 2 shows a week at the weekend on RTE radio 1 (yes, 2 shows per week) is on this sort of money. What the hell? Scandalous if true and it should piss people off big time. How many hours does this woman do for her (2 hour?) shows at the weekend? It may be just me but whenever I tune into RTE on the weekend there always seems to be someone standing in for her on yet another holiday for herself. It's blood boiling stuff, it really is. Time for someone to say stop to this - and with Tubridy and the rest of them. I really don't think given what us mortals are going through Irish people will tolerate much more of this carry on.

What do you think? Can someone please come on and tell us how the likes of Joe Duffy - on similar obscene wages - are deserving of high appreciation of their talents? Joe Duffy likes to have a laugh on Friday on his show. Not alot of people in this country find it too humorous at the present time. But i'd say he is having a good time alright. He won't be worrying about little things like a mortgage. Someone should tell that to some of the goons on his show who ring in and say "ah sure,your one of us Joe".....as if he is living among his flock in Ballyfermot. He is in his fcuk.

sinjin_smythe · 25-09-2011 02:25PM

how much do you think the likes of Joe Duffy and MF should be on? Bear in mind they've been doing this for years and have a fairly huge following.

Im no way justifying their wages but just wondering what people out there think they should be on, Id probably say €90k would be reasonable for Joe but MF can feck off with her 2 shows a week.

Celly Smunt · 25-09-2011 02:28PM

i'm ringing in to joe duffy about this.

Sonics2k · 25-09-2011 02:34PM

Marian Finucane is basically one of the biggest hypocrites in Irish history.

Deus Ex Machina · 25-09-2011 02:37PM

Just what the hell does somebody like her do all day if she does two shows a week and earns that kind of bread? Actually, I don't even want to know.

But along those lines, I'd much rather take her wages, give them to some smack head and then make him do two shows a week about what he gets up to. There's your bang for your entertainment buck!

Seanchai · 25-09-2011 02:39PM

darkman2 wrote: »

Read somewhere that MF, who presents 2 shows a week at the weekend on RTE radio 1 (yes, 2 shows per week) is on this sort of money. What the hell? Scandalous if true and it should piss people off big time. How many hours does this woman do for her (2 hour?) shows at the weekend? It may be just me but whenever I tune into RTE on the weekend there always seems to be someone standing in for her on yet another holiday for herself. It's blood boiling stuff, it really is. Time for someone to say stop to this - and with Tubridy and the rest of them. I really don't think given what us mortals are going through Irish people will tolerate much more of this carry on.

What do you think? Can someone please come on and tell us how the likes of Joe Duffy - on similar obscene wages - are deserving of high appreciation of their talents? Joe Duffy likes to have a laugh on Friday on his show. Not alot of people in this country find it too humorous at the present time. But i'd say he is having a good time alright. He won't be worrying about little things like a mortgage. Someone should tell that to some of the goons on his show who ring in and say "ah sure,your one of us Joe".....as if he is living among his flock in Ballyfermot. He is in his fcuk.

They are not deserving of it. 15-20 teachers, for example, could be employed for the salary which Marian Finucane receives each year - not including her numerous perks such as complimentary restaurant meals, hotel accommodation and so much more from business people who hope she'll give them a plug on her show.

For her €500,000 plus salary per year Finucane is on air for a paltry 4 hours per week, and takes 2-3 months holidays off in the summer. She has no great skill - it's not like she has gone to university for years to become a life-saving brain surgeon, is it? - and plenty of people could do her job just as well for €50,000 per year and be delighted to be on air.

There is no justification for these salaries - particularly none we could give to parents who have lost SNAs for their children in Irish schools, or who have lost carers for disabled or unwell family members or the wide variety of other services which could be restored to Irish people for €500,000 plus per year.

Her salary, as with Duffy's and the rest of them, is quite simply an immoral sum of money.

longshanks · 25-09-2011 02:59PM

Yeah grrr, outrage, anger etc.
She should be strung up by her old grey balls and whipped by Marty Whelan (wearing gimp suit)

Seanchai · 25-09-2011 03:00PM

Finucane's salary for her 4 hours broadcasting per week (and 3 months holidays) went from €180,507 in 2003 to €570,000 in 2008, according to this.

Joe Duffy's salary rose to €408,889 in 2008, according to this, while Éamon Dunphy's salary rose to €328.051 in 2008 according to the same link.

Other RTÉ salaries (2008):

Ryan Tubridy: €533,333 (€366,867 in 2007).
Pat Kenny: €950,976 (€630,000 in 2010)
Miriam O'Callaghan: €301,667
Derek Mooney: €286,809
George Hamilton: €219,833
Seán O'Rourke: €218,656

All ridiculous money. Not one of them is worth more than €100,000. If we're paying, for example, nurses and teachers @ €35,000 each then nobody can tell me that one of these RTÉ presenters is worth 3 nurses or teachers, never mind the 12-20 nurses/teachers that their current salaries could employ. Madness.

We have a right to know when their contracts are up for renewal, and the name of the state employee in RTÉ who is responsible for telling them the terms. At present, RTÉ is more secretive than the Catholic Church about these details.

gigino · 25-09-2011 03:01PM

there are technicians and magagement types out in RTE too who are on immoral amounts of money. No wonder the country is F****d with their greedy elite public service type mentality.

Mike 1972 · 25-09-2011 03:04PM

Seanchai wrote: »

Finucane's salary for her 4 hours broadcasting per week (and 3 months holidays) .

And people try and defend it by saying "Ah but how much time does she spend on preparation on research"

Yes reading a few newspapers must take all week like !

ThinkAboutIt · 25-09-2011 03:13PM

Elvis is also dead, just in case you havent heard that yet either OP.

Richard Hillman · 25-09-2011 03:14PM

Seanchai wrote: »

Finucane's salary for her 4 hours broadcasting per week (and 3 months holidays) went from €180,507 in 2003 to €570,000 in 2008, according to this.

Joe Duffy's salary rose to €408,889 in 2008, according to this, while Éamon Dunphy's salary rose to €328.051 in 2008 according to the same link.

Other RTÉ salaries (2008):

Ryan Tubridy: €533,333 (€366,867 in 2007).
Pat Kenny: €950,976 (€630,000 in 2010)
Miriam O'Callaghan: €301,667
Derek Mooney: €286,809
George Hamilton: €219,833
Seán O'Rourke: €218,656

All ridiculous money. Not one of them is worth more than €100,000. If we're paying, for example, nurses and teachers @ €35,000 each then nobody can tell me that one of these RTÉ presenters is worth 3 nurses or teachers, never mind the 12-20 nurses/teachers that their current salaries could employ. Madness.

We have a right to know when their contracts are up for renewal, and the name of the state employee in RTÉ who is responsible for telling them the terms. At present, RTÉ is more secretive than the Catholic Church about these details.

You could replace all of those names mentioned above with younger cheaper options and they would present much better value for money. George Hamilton is on a ludacris amount especially. Nobody tunes into a match for a commentator. They could easily get decent freelance commentators to cover the games he does for 1/4 of that. It really is jobs for the boys.

suicide_circus · 25-09-2011 03:23PM

And the worst of it is, these wind bags pontificate about the state of the nation and give out about politicians. Their hypocracy and delusions are shocking.

When I am king, these will be first against the wall.

Sonnenblumen · 25-09-2011 03:27PM

Sonics2k wrote: »

Marian Finucane is basically one of the biggest hypocrites in Irish history.

How come, please explain?

washman3 · 25-09-2011 03:28PM

we will all whinge and moan about it just as we do about everything else in this country, but at the end of the day what will we do about it?? sweet feck all.
These people are "insiders" in just another branch of our rotton to the core establishment. Marian Finucane is in general a pain in the a**e. Joe Duffy a cute conman. Will any of these people give any politican a hard time?
why should they? the taxpayer pays their wages.
And George Hamilton on 300k, no wonder he left Ulster television to come here. Most genuine sports minded people would do that job for a pittance.:mad:

Sonnenblumen · 25-09-2011 03:35PM

Seanchai wrote: »

Finucane's salary for her 4 hours broadcasting per week (and 3 months holidays) went from €180,507 in 2003 to €570,000 in 2008, according to this.

Joe Duffy's salary rose to €408,889 in 2008, according to this, while Éamon Dunphy's salary rose to €328.051 in 2008 according to the same link.

Other RTÉ salaries (2008):

Ryan Tubridy: €533,333 (€366,867 in 2007).
Pat Kenny: €950,976 (€630,000 in 2010)
Miriam O'Callaghan: €301,667
Derek Mooney: €286,809
George Hamilton: €219,833
Seán O'Rourke: €218,656

All ridiculous money. Not one of them is worth more than €100,000. If we're paying, for example, nurses and teachers @ €35,000 each then nobody can tell me that one of these RTÉ presenters is worth 3 nurses or teachers, never mind the 12-20 nurses/teachers that their current salaries could employ. Madness.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why are Prem players paid £100k/week to kick a ball 90mins/wk?

These presenters like footballers pay more than their way+ for their paymasters. Most generate surplus revenue.

I fyou can do it, do it!

skelliser · 25-09-2011 03:38PM

but but but if we dont pay them ****loads they will be poached by bbc, itv etc!!!:rolleyes:

RTE should be abolished. Its a closed shop. Unless you know someone or are related to someone its impossible to get a job there.
Its the perfect example of PS/Semi state nepotism which should be torn asunder.

200motels · 25-09-2011 03:42PM

They are paid way too much and so are teachers who only work half the year while we the worker and that's if you have a job get 4 weeks holidays a year for crap wages. Most of the public service don't know how lucky they are but then again they don't live in the real world.

Hootanany · 25-09-2011 03:46PM

Sell it off watch the wages plummet then.

oppenheimer1 · 25-09-2011 03:47PM

Seanchai wrote: »

Finucane's salary for her 4 hours broadcasting per week (and 3 months holidays) went from €180,507 in 2003 to €570,000 in 2008, according to this.

Joe Duffy's salary rose to €408,889 in 2008, according to this, while Éamon Dunphy's salary rose to €328.051 in 2008 according to the same link.

Other RTÉ salaries (2008):

Ryan Tubridy: €533,333 (€366,867 in 2007).
Pat Kenny: €950,976 (€630,000 in 2010)
Miriam O'Callaghan: €301,667
Derek Mooney: €286,809
George Hamilton: €219,833
Seán O'Rourke: €218,656

All ridiculous money. Not one of them is worth more than €100,000. If we're paying, for example, nurses and teachers @ €35,000 each then nobody can tell me that one of these RTÉ presenters is worth 3 nurses or teachers, never mind the 12-20 nurses/teachers that their current salaries could employ. Madness.

We have a right to know when their contracts are up for renewal, and the name of the state employee in RTÉ who is responsible for telling them the terms. At present, RTÉ is more secretive than the Catholic Church about these details.

We don't pay most teachers and nursed €35k. Most teachers/nurses etc start on wages that are approx. or not a million miles away from €35k but most take home more than this.

naughto · 25-09-2011 03:51PM

200motels wrote: »

They are paid way too much and so are teachers who only work half the year while we the worker and that's if you have a job get 4 weeks holidays a year for crap wages. Most of the public service don't know how lucky they are but then again they don't live in the real world.

ya good man any chance to have a swipe at the teachers this is about marian finucane

Wertz · 25-09-2011 03:55PM

Sonnenblumen wrote: »

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why are Prem players paid £100k/week to kick a ball 90mins/wk?

These presenters like footballers pay more than their way+ for their paymasters. Most generate surplus revenue.

I fyou can do it, do it!

I've heard this exact argument from the mouth of one Mr Pat Kenny in the past regarding high wages.

The big difference is that EPL footballers are paid from private companies who have en interest in finding and keeping the most skillful players in order to succeed in winning the various titles and the money associated with them and maintaining a high following among the fan base who buy tickets, merchandise and pay stupid money to the like of SKY for their live match coverage.
If clubs don't pay those wages some other club will and income may fall... they effectively sell football and need the most talented individuals to help them maximise profits.

Now to get back on topic, Ms Finnucane is a hypocrite because she will quite gladly sit in her studio if a weekend morning hosting a glorified coffee morning for the great and good of political and cultural Irish life and point fingers at civil service and semi state levels of renumeration whilst she herself takes over half a million p/a from a semi state (in all but name) company...
But ike I say in all these threads, it's not her's or anyone else getting those wages' faults; if you offered me that money for that amount of work I'd take your hand offf as would anyone else...it's the clowns with their hands on the pursestrings out in Donnybrook that need to be collectively shaken by the necks for passing out such lucrative contracts.
No-one is going to poach these people...the other indie broadcasters couldn't or wouldn't pay them these rates, even in the good old days.
But someone said we should do something about it...trouble is we can't...we could choose to not pay the licence and face court time and fines/jail or we could wave a few placards outside the gates...but this can only be tackled by political will and action from the current minister and that measn it won't be because they're all in each other's back pockets (figuratively speaking)...

Seanchai · 25-09-2011 03:58PM

oppenheimer1 wrote: »

We don't pay most teachers and nursed €35k. Most teachers/nurses etc start on wages that are approx. or not a million miles away from €35k but most take home more than this.

I said @ €35,000. Teachers start on €27,814 basic plus @ €2000-€3000 on top for various qualifications, according to the ASTI Salary section. Given that all qualified teachers leaving college will start at this level, that's a lot of new teachers who could be financed with the money a single RTÉ presenter is being paid.

Either way, you have completely missed the point: Finucane and her colleagues do not give Irish society back as much as a single good teacher or nurse, and accordingly to do not deserve to be paid a salary 15-20 times more for what amounts to waffling - a position plenty of talented, enthusiastic, attention-seeking egomaniacs would love to do for one-tenth of Finucane's salary.

Peep O'Day · 25-09-2011 04:02PM

Seanchai wrote: »

Finucane's salary for her 4 hours broadcasting per week (and 3 months holidays) went from €180,507 in 2003 to €570,000 in 2008, according to this.

Joe Duffy's salary rose to €408,889 in 2008, according to this, while Éamon Dunphy's salary rose to €328.051 in 2008 according to the same link.

Other RTÉ salaries (2008):

Ryan Tubridy: €533,333 (€366,867 in 2007).
Pat Kenny: €950,976 (€630,000 in 2010)
Miriam O'Callaghan: €301,667
Derek Mooney: €286,809
George Hamilton: €219,833
Seán O'Rourke: €218,656

All ridiculous money. Not one of them is worth more than €100,000. If we're paying, for example, nurses and teachers @ €35,000 each then nobody can tell me that one of these RTÉ presenters is worth 3 nurses or teachers, never mind the 12-20 nurses/teachers that their current salaries could employ. Madness.

We have a right to know when their contracts are up for renewal, and the name of the state employee in RTÉ who is responsible for telling them the terms. At present, RTÉ is more secretive than the Catholic Church about these details.

To be fair to the Catholic Church I don't think they are hiding much on this topic

Seanchai · 25-09-2011 04:05PM

Sonnenblumen wrote: »

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why are Prem players paid £100k/week to kick a ball 90mins/wk?

These presenters like footballers pay more than their way+ for their paymasters. Most generate surplus revenue.

I fyou can do it, do it!

Unbelievable thinking, even as nonsense goes. It's this sort of "fair play if you can get it" gombeenism that had every idiot in Ireland admiring Ahern, Reynolds, Haughey and the rest of the "cute hoor" brigade. :mad:

Seanchai · 25-09-2011 04:08PM

Peep O'Day wrote: »

To be fair to the Catholic Church I don't think they are hiding much on this topic

OK, Pedantry wins. Rephrase: At present, RTÉ is more secretive about these details than the Catholic Church would be. Sásta anois?

IvySlayer · 25-09-2011 04:13PM

The Government should step in and put a salary cap of let's say 70, 000 a year. Anyone who doesn't like it can feck off and get another job.

Zen65 · 25-09-2011 04:21PM

Hootanany wrote: »

Sell it off watch the wages plummet then.

This is an interesting argument. Does anyone know how much Ian Dempsey, Ray Darcy, Matt Cooper etc earn? What about Grainne Seoige, George Hook or the team from Xposé? What about the "equivalent" in the UK such as Graham Norton, Jeremy Clarkson, Davina McCall? They may be more famous of course, and deal with bigger audiences, but they do fundamentally the same job.

I'm not defending the ridiculous pay that Ms Finucane and her colleagues earn, but I'm constantly amazed at how public debate so quickly idealises the private sector while castigating the public or state-commercial sector. Was it not the greed of private entrepreneurs & banks that destroyed the economy? Seems to me that the wages of Ms Finucane are merely a distraction from what we should be angry about.

Z

paddyandy · 25-09-2011 04:24PM

People are ruled by what they adore.Serves you right...you pay a license i don't.We adore gossip mongers and that's all they are.yACKETY YACK MACHINE which we should'nt need if people were doing their jobs properly.

Zen65 · 25-09-2011 04:29PM

Sonnenblumen wrote: »

These presenters like footballers pay more than their way+ for their paymasters. Most generate surplus revenue.

This is true, but only in the very narrow sense. In the widest sense it is the consumer who pays for these ridiculous salaries, whether that be through higher prices for goods & services (because if you follow the money trail that's where the revenue ultimately comes from) or higher taxes / TV Licence fees.

I don't mean to suggest that communism is the answer, because communism, like capitalism does not work in the longer run. If the objective is to raise the standard of living for everybody, while acknowledging that those who work hardest (or have unique skills) should be entitled to a little more than those who don't, then some other, fairer form of economy is needed.

Enough said really.

Z

Celly Smunt · 25-09-2011 04:32PM

Zen65 wrote: »

This is true, but only in the very narrow sense. In the widest sense it is the consumer who pays for these ridiculous salaries, whether that be through higher prices for goods & services (because if you follow the money trail that's where the revenue ultimately comes from) or higher taxes / TV Licence fees.

I don't mean to suggest that communism is the answer, because communism, like capitalism does not work in the longer run. If the objective is to raise the standard of living for everybody, while acknowledging that those who work hardest (or have unique skills) should be entitled to a little more than those who don't, then some other, fairer form of economy is needed.

Enough said really.

Z

That's socialism,Ireland is such a small speck in the world that it's either capitalism or nothing.

Marian Finucane really on 500k + per year!?

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