Irish military exports worth a massive €10.7bn.

Slozer · 22-09-2011 01:19PM

Dionysus wrote: »

These rules were developed in case the materials fell into the wrong hands.

I laughed!:pac:

keitho Dublin · 22-09-2011 02:19PM

No, the Irish economy needs all the money it can get.

so much so for people of Ireland do not like war

Manic Moran · 22-09-2011 08:07PM

Made in Sweden
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DsKIS3dPl28/TZNeeZflKbI/AAAAAAAABsk/ZZb0X81f7QY/s1600/JAS39Gripen.jpg

Made in Switzerland
http://media.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/LAND_Leopard-2_Pz_87_Steel_Parade_2006_Sandstein_FPD_lg.jpg

Made in Ireland.
http://s3.jrnl.ie/media/2011/08/bomb_scare-0143-390x285.jpg

Yeah, two neutralities are better protected than the third.

Crazy Horse 6 · 22-09-2011 08:11PM

No, the Irish economy needs all the money it can get.

antodeco wrote: »

If we didn't make them, someone else would. Id rather, us as a nation, benefit from something that's inevitable to happen, than another nation.

Plus, it also means if a world war does happen, we can equip everyone in Ireland with this gear

Sounds like what my local drug dealer would say. Does'nt make it right.

Monty Burnz · 22-09-2011 08:15PM

keitho Dublin wrote: »

so much so for people of Ireland do not like war

I'm baffled at the levels of reading ability you see very often on Boards. Baffled.

FlutterinBantam · 22-09-2011 08:18PM

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Indeed, and I'm baffled at the amount of posters who post this Shite as if it was of any importance.

Can't for the life of me figure out the bent and twisted punters who keep digging up this crap and presenting it here.

Who gives a fcuk??i

Chuck Stone · 22-09-2011 08:21PM

No, the Irish economy needs all the money it can get.

The war dividend.

If you work in the 'security' industry then insecurity is good for business. If you're anyone else you're paying to pick up the pieces.

longhalloween · 22-09-2011 08:29PM

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So? Belgium, Sweden and Switzerland have arms industries and they're not military powerhouses, why can't Ireland do it?

If there's a market for it, we should have an industry to meet that demand.

Orando Broom · 22-09-2011 08:40PM

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Sweden make some of the nastiest **** you've ever seen! My particular favorite was the anti personnel mine that looked like a child's toy. This thing was small and plastic and came in bright colours. Sweden the greatest country ever known! Let's not beat ourselves up about military export. Most of our stuff is either re routed through here or multi-use.

Monty Burnz · 22-09-2011 08:45PM

Orando Broom wrote: »

Sweden make some of the nastiest **** you've ever seen! My particular favorite was the anti personnel mine that looked like a child's toy. This thing was small and plastic and came in bright colours..

Any chance of a link about this please? Sounds pretty bad if true - unless the bright colours are meant to help you avoid going near it?

Orando Broom · 22-09-2011 08:47PM

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Monty Burnz wrote: »

Any chance of a link about this please? Sounds pretty bad if true - unless the bright colours are meant to help you avoid going near it?

No. Saw them on a training course. They were about five inches long and would remind you of those Maple leaf seed dispersal yokes. I'll do a search and see.

Orando Broom · 22-09-2011 08:53PM

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Here you go. The mine is called a butterfly and it's designed to maim children.

http://cyberschoolbus.un.org/sds/risk_reduction/mineriskeducation.asp

FlutterinBantam · 22-09-2011 08:59PM

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Orando Broom wrote: »

Here you go. The mine is called a butterfly and it's designed to maim children.

http://cyberschoolbus.un.org/sds/risk_reduction/mineriskeducation.asp

No it's not.

Orando Broom · 22-09-2011 09:03PM

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FlutterinBantam wrote: »

No it's not.

No it's not what?

FlutterinBantam · 22-09-2011 09:05PM

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Orando Broom wrote: »

No it's not what?

It's not specifically designed to maim children.

maddragon · 22-09-2011 09:07PM

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The mine shown in that link is the PFM-1 butterfly mine manufactured by RUSSIA not Sweden.

I have worked as a Mine Awareness and Training Officer for the UN.

Bullchomper · 22-09-2011 09:08PM

The €10.6bn dual use products manufactured here in Ireland are in fact the most sought after materials by any country engaged in, or prepared for, warfare. They are not overly high-tec but are mass produced and criminally used for the most intense, depraved forms of torture that would make waterboarding appear like a calming facial. Foreign military governments invest millions in the debase export. It is a common and highly illegal form of psychological warfare exercised across the world where political detainees are subjected to this for hours until they endure full mental breakdown.

Orando Broom · 22-09-2011 09:10PM

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FlutterinBantam wrote: »

It's not specifically designed to maim children.

Okay not specifically but it's an added bonus for the designers and users that it does.

Orando Broom · 22-09-2011 09:11PM

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maddragon wrote: »

The mine shown in that link is the PFM-1 butterfly mine manufactured by RUSSIA not Sweden.

I have worked as a Mine Awareness and Training Officer for the UN.

Jesus does anyone read anything on here? I told him I couldn't find a link. That was just sent to show that they existed. The CARE website had more about Butterfly mines but no pics. The one I was shown was Swedish made and light plastic, bright green in colour.

FlutterinBantam · 22-09-2011 09:12PM

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Orando Broom wrote: »

Okay not specifically but it's an added bonus for the designers and users that it does.

:eek:

Where does it say that?

And how do you know that.

Have the designers and users put forward that spec? and if so where?

Orando Broom · 22-09-2011 09:15PM

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FlutterinBantam wrote: »

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:eek:

Where does it say that?

And how do you know that.

Have the designers and users put forward that spec? and if so where?

Like I said I was told by a bomb disposal expert about them and he said that they were used to maim kids because they were attractive to kids to pick up and play with. Make of that what you will. I have no independent peer reviewed material or expert witnesses. Choose to believe me or not. I don't care I saw no reason for your man to misinform me.

FlutterinBantam · 22-09-2011 09:18PM

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Orando Broom wrote: »

Like I said I was told by a bomb disposal expert about them and he said that they were used to maim kids because they were attractive to kids to pick up and play with. Make of that what you will. I have no independent peer reviewed material or expert witnesses. Choose to believe me or not. I don't care I saw no reason for your man to misinform me.

Ok , ok he wasn't being correct, but I accept your line of reasoning.

Tks.

Orando Broom · 22-09-2011 09:20PM

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FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Ok , ok he wasn't being correct, but I accept your line of reasoning.

Tks.

Where was he wrong? Are you a bomb disposal officer? Do enlighten me.

FlutterinBantam · 22-09-2011 09:32PM

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Orando Broom wrote: »

Where was he wrong? Are you a bomb disposal officer? Do enlighten me.

Eh?...........

How do I know where he was wrong bud?

Where does it say on the spec that the items are aimed at children?

maddragon · 22-09-2011 09:37PM

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The butterfly mine was shaped that way so it could be delivered by air or artillery (i.e. a scatterable mine). It was a very unfortunate consequence that the shape was attractive to children who would pick it up, squeeze it or stand on it and have their arms or legs blown off. The Russians weren't bothered as they viewed it as one less adult in the future who could handle a weapon.

Orando Broom · 22-09-2011 09:39PM

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maddragon wrote: »

The butterfly mine was shaped that way so it could be delivered by air or artillery (i.e. a scatterable mine). It was a very unfortunate consequence that the shape was attractive to children who would pick it up, squeeze it or stand on it and have their arms or legs blown off. The Russians weren't bothered as they viewed it as one less adult in the future who could handle a weapon.

And it continues to be made outside of Russia despite the obvious casualties.

Donny5 · 22-09-2011 10:01PM

Orando Broom wrote: »

And it continues to be made outside of Russia despite the obvious casualties.

By whom?

harmoniums · 22-09-2011 10:43PM

I had a business making rifles for civilian sale here in California.

I wonder if the IDA would help out with setting up business in Ireland?

who wants a Job?

Orando Broom · 22-09-2011 10:46PM

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harmoniums wrote: »

I had a business making rifles for civilian sale here in California.

I wonder if the IDA would help out with setting up business in Ireland?

who wants a Job?

Jobbridge for the win!

longhalloween · 22-09-2011 10:50PM

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harmoniums wrote: »

I had a business making rifles for civilian sale here in California.

I wonder if the IDA would help out with setting up business in Ireland?

who wants a Job?

Ooh Oooh ME ME!!:P

Irish military exports worth a massive €10.7bn.

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