Tesco Internship

wild_cat · 16-09-2011 10:33PM

Dangerous Man wrote: »

Your opinion is wrong; Tesco are taking advantage of the campaign to help people gain valuable experience in the workplace to grab unpaid labour. I don't think that the campaign is worth a crap to be honest but Tesco's behaviour is frankly appalling. I am staggered by this. If no one here gives a shit I'll b disappointed. I'm already putting feelers out to see what can done against these bastards.

Anybody, and I mean ANYBODY that shops in Tesco this weekend knowing what's happening, is a moron.

Capitalist company behaves in capitalist profit at all costs manner shocker....

Dangerous Man · 16-09-2011 10:33PM

mikemac wrote: »

I stopped using Supervalu after they did the same thing with WPP

I do not know if Job-bridge replaces WPP, not sure

But Tesco are getting added to the list

Fair play to you. If more people were like you shit like this would never happen.

MadameGascar · 16-09-2011 10:33PM

That's not an internship, I know Interns have to do all sorts of crap jobs but that isn't even an internship.

Dangerous Man · 16-09-2011 10:34PM

wild_cat wrote: »

Capitalist company behaves in capitalist profit at all costs manner shocker....

It actually is a shocker. You should be shocked; your indifference is the reason why they can get away with it.

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 16-09-2011 10:34PM

I'm glad they are doing it. It might bring some attention to how widely abused these schemes are

ejmaztec · 16-09-2011 10:35PM

If everyone in the country works for nothing, who's going to buy their feckin groceries, or anything else for that matter?

ShamoBuc · 16-09-2011 10:35PM

Dangerous Man wrote: »

Your opinion is wrong; Tesco are taking advantage of the campaign to help people gain valuable experience in the workplace to grab unpaid labour. I don't think that the campaign is worth a crap to be honest but Tesco's behaviour is frankly appalling. I am staggered by this. If no one here gives a shit I'll b disappointed. I'm already putting feelers out to see what can done against these bastards.

Anybody, and I mean ANYBODY that shops in Tesco this weekend knowing what's happening, is a moron.

Well, I know about it and I'll be shopping there - guess you think I'm a moron - how will I sleep tonight:rolleyes:

Dangerous Man · 16-09-2011 10:37PM

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Well, I know about it and I'll be shopping there - guess you think I'm a moron - how will I sleep tonight:rolleyes:

I'm curious - you don't think their behaviour is worthy of boycott? You're okay with what they're doing?

SeaFields · 16-09-2011 10:39PM

Dangerous Man wrote: »

Your opinion is wrong; Tesco are taking advantage of the campaign to help people gain valuable experience in the workplace to grab unpaid labour.

Many, many other companies have attempted to take advantage of this as well. The scheme facilitates the exploitation of people so get rid of the scheme.

ejmaztec · 16-09-2011 10:40PM

My plan is to fill a trolley full of groceries, fags and booze, and when I get stopped in the car-park, I'm telling them that they're now part of the Groceries Placement Programme, which means they can't charge for the trolley-load of stuff that I'm tipping into the boot of my car.

How do you think I'll get on?

Dangerous Man · 16-09-2011 10:41PM

SeaFields wrote: »

Many, many other companies have attempted to take advantage of this as well. The scheme facilitates the exploitation of people so get rid of the scheme.

I agree with you - I think the scheme should be scrapped or at the very least re-worked. However, what Tesco is doing is beyond anything I've seen so far. I can't abide this. I feel sick by their behaviour.

ShamoBuc · 16-09-2011 10:42PM

Dangerous Man wrote: »

I'm curious - you don't think their behaviour is worthy of boycott? You're okay with what they're doing?

The scheme is a joke - I blame the scheme and the scheme makers.

Dangerous Man · 16-09-2011 10:43PM

ejmaztec wrote: »

My plan is to fill a trolley full of groceries, fags and booze, and when I get stopped in the car-park, I'm telling them that they're now part of the Groceries Placement Programme, which means they can't charge for the trolley-load of stuff that I'm tipping into the boot of my car.

How do you think I'll get on?

What, you're going to avail of a product / service and not pay for it? Where would you get that idea from?

ShamoBuc · 16-09-2011 10:45PM

Dangerous Man wrote: »

I agree with you - I think the scheme should be scrapped or at the very least re-worked. However, what Tesco is doing is beyond anything I've seen so far. I can't abide this. I feel sick by their behaviour.

A similar scheme was introduced in education - a qualified teacher would act as a teachers assistant for the year - and get paid their dole. An absolute joke. I blame the scheme - simple as.

mikemac · 16-09-2011 10:46PM

There is some manager in HQ in Clarehall Dublin who proposed this and will be getting a huge bonus for slashing payroll.
Wonder how they'll be sleeping

Wertz · 16-09-2011 10:47PM

Are Tesco really trying to tell us that the lackey intern doing this work in one of their many stores will be working alongside paid shelf stackers as surplus staff and that in reality they won't be displacing someone that could be getting a proper hourly rate for doing the same thing?
You see it's this type of fiasco there are supposed ot be unions to deal with...not that I'm any fan of unions but practices like this are downright wrong...

ShamoBuc · 16-09-2011 10:48PM

mikemac wrote: »

There is some manager in HQ in Clarehall Dublin who proposed this and will be getting a huge bonus for slashing payroll.
Wonder how they'll be sleeping

I would imagine very well as his Christmas pressies are now paid for.

ShamoBuc · 16-09-2011 10:50PM

Wertz wrote: »

You see it's this type of fiasco there are supposed ot be unions to deal with...not that I'm any fan of unions but practices like this are downright wrong...

This is exactly what unions should be up in arms about - but in a recession unions tend to be exceptionally quiet .

Solnskaya · 16-09-2011 10:51PM

mikemac wrote: »

There is some manager in HQ in Clarehall Dublin who proposed this and will be getting a huge bonus for slashing payroll.
Wonder how they'll be sleeping

it's tosco, so probably pretty well, their managers are not noted for their empathy and intelligence. I worked as a subbie for them for a while, and my impression was of a swan - ie all smooth on the surface, paddling furiously under the surface. Pretty ruthless corporation really, all business, and business loves free/cheap labour. Any excuse not to pay their regular subbies would be a godsend, so not having to pay the stock-wallahs would be mannah to them. Tosco will not lose a seconds sleep over this, there will be plenty of mugs people who will apply to do this.sadly. and I use tosco not tseco as they are so controlling that they probably google every internet reference to themselves and study the content to assess its commercial impact/how they are being percieved. although they probably include every form of spelling, so, they are probably following this thread closely. ...I know, conspiracy theories that way>>>> , but, you'd be amazed the lengths, etc etc.

Dangerous Man · 16-09-2011 10:52PM

ShamoBuc wrote: »

A similar scheme was introduced in education - a qualified teacher would act as a teachers assistant for the year - and get paid their dole. An absolute joke. I blame the scheme - simple as.

I agree with you that the scheme is broken - but that doesn't excuse those that take advantage of it; it's my contention that if enough people hit them where it hurts they'll quickly see that we don't approve of any company, whether domestic, or in this case foreign, taking advantage of the people who live in our country. We are better than that.

wild_cat · 16-09-2011 10:56PM

Dangerous Man wrote: »

It actually is a shocker. You should be shocked; your indifference is the reason why they can get away with it.

My indifference?

What do you mean by that?

I grew up reading Proudhon, Bakunin and Chomsky...

and I only shop in Tesco when I have little or no other choice...

The fact that people are shocked that Tesco would do this is kinda funny. They're well known to be a profit at all costs kind of establishment. You give that type of set up any leeway and of course they will abuse the system to make/save more money for themselves/shareholders. That's basically how corporations operate and it's no secret..

The sickening part is that that a "socialist leaning" party is allowing or actually created an avenue for them to do this......

What we can both agree on is that its really disgustingly wrong... ****ing horribly wrong in fact.

mikemac · 16-09-2011 10:57PM

Solnskaya wrote: »

they probably google every internet reference to themselves and study the content to assess its commercial impact/how they are being percieved. although they probably include every form of spelling, so, they are probably followingthis thread closely. ...I know, conspiracy theories that way>>>> , but, you'd be amazed the lengths, etc etc.

Not a conspiracy at all

When I worked in a hotel this was part of my job to do searches on us and check online reviews and internet forums, print them off and hand them to management

I'd say most businesses do it now and again

ejmaztec · 16-09-2011 10:57PM

Dangerous Man wrote: »

What, you're going to avail of a product / service and not pay for it? Where would you get that idea from?

It's 21st Century "Hunter Gathering", which is what I'm going to tell the judge anyway.

Solnskaya · 16-09-2011 11:02PM

mikemac wrote: »

Not a conspiracy at all
When I worked in a hotel this was part of my job to do searches on us and check online reviews and internet forums, print them off and hand them to management

I'd say most businesses do it now and again

I don't think it's a conspracy at all Mike, I get nervous writing anything about the corporations I have worked for, as they are all very machievellian and anything said out of school can come back to bite you:)Lot of dosh involved, so people tend to get quite serious. and lacking in sense of humour/free speech etc.

Fieldies Dreams · 16-09-2011 11:06PM

i did that for four months last year and walked out, they treat you like dirt if your doin the nightshifts.....stacking the same food every nite and takin crap off spotty faced power tripping managers that are probably gettin 10 cent more an hour than you are :mad:

dark crystal · 16-09-2011 11:08PM

I have a different view on this - if you're unemployed, wouldn't it make more sense to fill your time gaining experience and having something to put on a CV, rather than just sitting at home and collecting your dole every week?

People on the scheme could still apply for other jobs in the meantime, but this way, at least you have something to add to your CV, instead of nothing at all (and an extra €50 into the bargain - not much, I accept, but better than nothing)

I understand where the exploitation aspect is coming into people's argument, but beyond the outrage, can anyone see any benefits to the scheme at all??

mikemac · 16-09-2011 11:14PM

I see your point dark crystal and it could help teenagers fresh out of school and this was their first job ever.
Learn about uniforms and timekeeping and team work though realy they should know this from school. But ok if it's your first job and it can get you a bit of confidence and independence

But for anyone else, this is not an internship. An internship designing the store layout and looking at perishables and maximizing revenue is interesting.

This is shelf stacking.....

ejmaztec · 16-09-2011 11:14PM

I hope they manage to recruit thousands of the greatest kleptomaniacs in the country. With any luck the WPP workplaces will all look like the termites have been in.

wild_cat · 16-09-2011 11:14PM

dark crystal wrote: »

I have a different view on this - if you're unemployed, wouldn't it make more sense to fill your time gaining experience and having something to put on a CV, rather than just sitting at home and collecting your dole every week?

People on the scheme could still apply for other jobs in the meantime, but this way, at least you have something to add to your CV, instead of nothing at all (and an extra €50 into the bargain - not much, I accept, but better than nothing)

I understand where the exploitation aspect is coming into people's argument, but beyond the outrage, can anyone see any benefits to the scheme at all??

So you see nothing wrong with a company that makes billions in profit every year getting free labour at the tax payers expense?

And more than likely removing real paying jobs from the market?

Wertz · 16-09-2011 11:17PM

I don't think anyone is shocked that Tesco are trying this on (ands they're probably not the only ones that are abusing what this should be about), they're shocked that the system is et up in such a way that low paid dead end jobs can fall under the definition of suitable "careers"...as I understand it, proper interships are about breaking in people who may want to work in a specialised industry or service that they have already studied towards but who lack hands on experience of...it's supposed to hone skills and show an employer that you might be suitable for a longterm role ...
No matter what Going Forward BS Tesco management come out with about this, it's plainly obvious that these roles are the anathema of what the scheme is supposed to entail...that they will probably get away with it doesn't reflect poorly on them but on the idiots who drew up the legislation and are tasked with it's oversight.

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