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Any Neo Geo AES owners?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    I got me a copy of Silvergun too! Was playing it last night and its a game that you can play and play and play. Its MASSIVE too for a shmup! Longest shooter ever?

    I'd love a copy of Karous. Its not on my immediate "wants list" though - have to get those aforementioned DC shooters, Batsugun, Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets and an AES game for myself (either Fatal Fury 3, Fighters History Dynamite or King of Fighters '99) first. Should take a while before I get that lot! :(

    Roll on September 14th!

    Karous is brilliant (despite what Retr0gamer thinks! :D). I think Andrew or Safetyboy has a copy of Akai Katrina And The Waves on XBOX 360, that's a BELTER of a shooter.

    Oh hang on a minute, o1s1n, I'll raise you with my copy of Ketsui Extra. :D

    Although I'll shortly be called and 'all-in'ed' by a certain someone that owns Ketsui Extra with that Godforsaken pamphlet!

    edit: And I'll raise that Ketsui Extra with pamphlet with my copy of Refrain Prism Memories (SG-OCD) and my forthcoming SG-OCD copy of Crimzon Clover and vol's 1 and 2 of Shooting Gameside with a side pot of Darius Burst SG-OCD for tasting sessions! :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭Mr Vengeance


    o1s1n wrote: »
    I think tetris has to be the best value for money game of all time. I would literally play that forever.



    My poison? Everything, that's the bloody problem! :D

    Ha ha ha!! Don't I know all about it mate! There's always something else to get isn't there?
    o1s1n wrote: »
    Started collecting rare Megadrive games years ago..best bits would be a Sonic Crackers proto (moment of absolute madness) and a very early unreleased beta of Zero Tolerance that's really different to the final version and as far as I know the only one in existence (and undumped! :eek:)

    Then have a load of rare PAL releases like Wily Wars, Duke Nukem, Ecco Jr etc.

    Seriously impressive bud. I have only a handful of Mega Drive games and as my console is not working correctly its a situation unlikely to change. I will get a new one some day and I really really want, believe it or not, a 32X for it. I've always been interested in it for some reason - probably something to do with my interest in failed systems, and my love for Sega.

    o1s1n wrote: »
    Have bits of everything though. If you work your way through the post here every time you get something new thread you'll see my slow descent into madness.

    I'll have a butchers mate and will post also.....
    o1s1n wrote: »
    For the last while it's mainly been arcade hardware. Have a shedload of Neo Geo MVS carts. Dipped my toes in CPS2, but after 4 or 5 games I literally have no bloody room left for them!

    I found my way on here today as I was looking nito getting an arcade cabinet for myself. I really want a Naomi cab. Don't see me getting one for a while though! Just something I think about every now and then....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,546 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    I can fold with Panzer Dragoon Zwei but could call with DoDonpachi Daiepoieioufkudsgkjdshfjdfhslkfhkldshlkdgshljh and Espgaluda for PS2 if that's alright? :D

    Combos?

    /shoots back with Metal Slug 1,2,3,x,4 MVS carts (damn, if only I had 5 it would have been a Royal Flush :()
    Pyongyang wrote: »


    Divorced within a year? :pac:

    You had a good run :p

    If you have the room for it there's no greater joy. Hell, there's even a weird joy in having a broken cab! I can still look at it and do a lovingly sigh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    What about the Metal Slug 6 bootleg? :D

    I'd love those MVS though, I love Metal Slug. If you're Metal Slug X was AES though I'd have had bowel issues. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,546 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Ha ha ha!! Don't I know all about it mate! There's always something else to get isn't there?

    You think you're done and then the bastards here convince you to that you need a Vectrex, and Amiga, a candy cab and god knows what else. Run away with your wallet intact. Serious!
    Seriously impressive bud. I have only a handful of Mega Drive games and as my console is not working correctly its a situation unlikely to change. I will get a new one some day and I really really want, believe it or not, a 32X for it. I've always been interested in it for some reason - probably something to do with my interest in failed systems, and my love for Sega

    Ah I know exactly what you mean. I love buying 32x games (and bad old games in general) and sitting there in disbelief at how bad they are. Don't know what it is!

    I found my way on here today as I was looking nito getting an arcade cabinet for myself. I really want a Naomi cab. Don't see me getting one for a while though! Just something I think about every now and then....

    There was a Naomi for sale on adverts a while ago but I think it was a little over priced. Looked to be in lovely condition though.

    Ooh, here's one for €450. No pic though -

    http://www.adverts.ie/other-consoles-games/sega-naomi-arcade-machine/795843


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,546 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    What about the Metal Slug 6 bootleg? :D

    I'd love those MVS though, I love Metal Slug. If you're Metal Slug X was AES though I'd have had bowel issues. :o

    Hah, yeah, that Metal Slug 6 bootleg seems to be on loads of those multi game carts for some reason. I've never played it!

    Actually the real Metal Slug 6 is an Atomiswave game. Would go with my candy....


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,032 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    ...

    Although I'll shortly be called and 'all-in'ed' by a certain someone that owns Ketsui Extra with that Godforsaken pamphlet!

    ...

    What pamphlet is that? This ole black booklet jobbie below? Ah sure it's just a couple of screenshots with squiggly text beside them. :P :P Sure I'll swap ya for a mint rare MD Fifa '96 manual? :pac: Am, no. Your gameside shooter volumes are lovely looking though.

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Stop posting that Ketsui Extra pamphlet! :(

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,546 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Hahaha, retro game booklet porn. Gotta love it :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭Mr Vengeance


    o1s1n wrote: »

    Cheers for the link mate. €450 is a lot of cash isn't it?! :( I was hoping to pick one up for about €300 but I suppose I'm being a little optimistic as €400 odd seems to be the going rate for a Naomi.

    I'd love a vert Naomi with Ikaruga - I'd never be off the thing!

    Are there any arcade in Dublin or Bray that have old school cabs in them that aren't the usual lightgun and car set-ups you see around? I remember there was an arcade on.... ah it was up at the top of Walbot Street (not the one down at the two retro game shops) that had a load of great cabs - I think it was turned into a very seedy looking gambling spot. Had a copy of Metal Slug running in there if I recall correctly.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,546 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Cheers for the link mate. €450 is a lot of cash isn't it?! :( I was hoping to pick one up for about €300 but I suppose I'm being a little optimistic as €400 odd seems to be the going rate for a Naomi.

    I'd love a vert Naomi with Ikaruga - I'd never be off the thing!

    Are there any arcade in Dublin or Bray that have old school cabs in them that aren't the usual lightgun and car set-ups you see around? I remember there was an arcade on.... ah it was up at the top of Walbot Street (not the one down at the two retro game shops) that had a load of great cabs - I think it was turned into a very seedy looking gambling spot. Had a copy of Metal Slug running in there if I recall correctly.

    €450 is a lot of cash indeed, but it does seem to be in and around the going rate for Naomi cabs.

    Luckily for you, Naomis seem to be at the lower end of the cost scale. When compared to the likes of candy cabs such as Egrets and Astros, it's only about half the price of one of them.

    A Naomi with Ikaruga would be incredible. Thankfully due to the Dreamcast version you wouldn't have to spend a fortune on an arcade board. Just get the Dreamcast working in it.

    Arcades like the above just don't exist around Dublin anymore unfortunately :( Even the ones out in Bray are just full of dedicated driving/shooting cabs. Long gone are the days when you'd see a joystick on an arcade machine.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,779 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    Kerbdog has picked up a Naomi cab for his currently underconstruction house, going in the kitchen apparently, lucky fecker!
    While I'm dismissed to my attic!

    I swear, I'm gonna build a gamesroom in the backgarden, pop a cab or two in there, by Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Warvan, I shall have it!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 167 ✭✭Mr Vengeance


    o1s1n wrote: »
    €450 is a lot of cash indeed, but it does seem to be in and around the going rate for Naomi cabs.

    Luckily for you, Naomis seem to be at the lower end of the cost scale. When compared to the likes of candy cabs such as Egrets and Astros, it's only about half the price of one of them.

    A Naomi with Ikaruga would be incredible. Thankfully due to the Dreamcast version you wouldn't have to spend a fortune on an arcade board. Just get the Dreamcast working in it.

    Arcades like the above just don't exist around Dublin anymore unfortunately :( Even the ones out in Bray are just full of dedicated driving/shooting cabs. Long gone are the days when you'd see a joystick on an arcade machine.

    Thats a pity. I suppose Dr Quirky's is probably the best place around still then. Used to play a lot of Soul Calibur II, Virtua Fighter 4 and Outrun 2 in there back in about 2004. Great fun!

    Just of note on arcades in Dublin, the Stillorgan Leisureplex or whatever its called had a couple of Scud Race cabs in there a couple of years ago.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,410 ✭✭✭KeRbDoG


    CiDeRmAn wrote: »
    Kerbdog has picked up a Naomi cab for his currently underconstruction house, going in the kitchen apparently, lucky fecker!
    While I'm dismissed to my attic!

    I swear, I'm gonna build a gamesroom in the backgarden, pop a cab or two in there, by Grabthar's hammer, by the suns of Warvan, I shall have it!

    I'm picking up a cab, yet to be picked up sir.
    Should also in about a weeks time have all released Naomi1 cart games working on the orignal hardware :) Might splash out if all goes well on a Naomi2, will see how it goes!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Looks like I'm resigned to never play Neo Geo games. Last night I went to test my MAK Strike and the JAMMA connector is too wide for the MVS slot on the board!

    The connector goes nearly all the way in for a snug fit but not quite. I powered it on anyway because after speaking to the guy at Arcade Forge (who said his system had the same fitting issue but his worked) I powered it on, saw a unibios screen (albeit garbled and flickering) and then heard a pop or snap sound that I think came from the MVS system board.

    I powered the MAK Strike off and waited a few seconds (sure I could smell burning, could have been dust/heat combo though as the board is pretty dusty). I powered it on again and I don't see any Unibios screen at all. Just a mainly green screen flickering between garbled colours.

    Power was definitely missing somewhere (all LED's were on on both the MVS system and the MAK Strike so power is reaching those).

    However I had the following setup:

    PSU > MAK STRIKE > MVS > SCART CABLE > SYNC STRIKE > VGA SCALER > VGA MONITOR

    The Sync Strike has an LED on it which I since proved the device still works as I hooked up my Saturn to it last night and played Donpachi on it just fine. LED working and everything.

    Reckon the MVS system is fried? Or the SCART cable is wrecked?

    Either way it's seriously annoying the JAMMA connection doesn't fit snug. Fair play to the guy on Arcade Forge though who said I can send it straight back (for a refund?).

    Gutted though, Neo Geo controller is due to arrive today and I was all set for some MVS tonight. Argh! :(

    Can anyone offer any help on what may be the issue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,195 ✭✭✭ondafly


    can you take photos of the connectors ? as the MVS is jamma and should line up exactly with the jamma edge connector.

    do you know if the MVS was working prior to connecting to the mak strike ?

    I'd also try and without all the extras and just go scart to TV


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    ondafly wrote: »
    can you take photos of the connectors ? as the MVS is jamma and should line up exactly with the jamma edge connector.

    do you know if the MVS was working prior to connecting to the mak strike ?

    I'd also try and without all the extras and just go scart to TV

    Cheers. Pics coming in a sec (of the board/JAMMA connection). I haven't actually tried a straight SCART > TV. Will try that tonight. The JAMMA and MVS slot do line up just fine, they just don't fit snuggly.

    No idea if the MVS was working before the MAK Strike as I had no supergun. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    UPDATE: Jochen at Arcade Forge has been absolutely awesome. He's offered to send me a new MAK Strike with a cut down JAMMA conenctor so it fits snug.

    He's even offered to send it while I send the other one back to him. That's awesome service, fair play to him. I might as well get the trimmed down one so at least it works with everything in future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Here's the pics of my board and the MAK Strike. You can clearly see it doesn't fit properly:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,546 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Sure you can shave a bit off either side of that blue jamma connector yourself...? Would only take a few minutes!


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,032 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    UPDATE: Jochen at Arcade Forge has been absolutely awesome. He's offered to send me a new MAK Strike with a cut down JAMMA conenctor so it fits snug.

    He's even offered to send it while I send the other one back to him. That's awesome service, fair play to him. I might as well get the trimmed down one so at least it works with everything in future.

    Good service that but shame it didn't fit properly in the first place.

    /Edit: Would you need a jamma loom to better connect the two? As in does the base of the MAK sit flush with the base of the supergun when they're both sitting flat?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Aye I was going to trim the JAMMA connector down but I'd rather send it back and have a snug one pro-cut.

    The actual connector slot and MVS connector do sit flush, it's just just the actual MVS slot size itself is too narrow (or the JAMMA connector plastic is too wide).

    Any ideas if my MVS is fried though? Seriously hope it's not the case as it's unibios'ed and everything. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,546 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    So in summary, you plugged your MVS 1 slot into the MAK board, it didn't plug the whole way in because it was too wide, you powered it on, saw the Unibios garbled and then got a pop?

    I get garbled graphics when the MVS game has dirty contacts. A quick clean (or even blow) on the contacts and it fixes that.

    However the pop followed by garbled colours isn't good. Worst case scenario, something was fried/shorted due to the JAMMA harness not making a full connection. Although do keep in mind that's from my uneducated opinion!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Yep that's pretty much cutting a long story short!

    I haven't cleaned the contacts though, I just got pissed off with the whole thing, plugged in my Saturn and played some Donpachi for the rest of the night instead. :)


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,032 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    Looking at your pictures above it was the jamma pins that control ground and voltage that weren't connected properly. 1 & 2 (and a & b) are for ground, and 3 to 6 (and c to f) are for the +5, -5, +12 volts, link.

    If it was me I would just shave off some width on the MAK side and connect it properly then power it back on and see what happens, I wouldn't bother waiting for a replacement. The problem was the width of the MAK not the MVS, my MVS is the same and I've no problem connecting superguns to it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Andrew76 wrote: »
    The problem was the width of the MAK not the MVS, my MVS is the same and I've no problem connecting superguns to it.

    Yep, that's exactly my thinking, I was wondering how MVS slots could possibly differ in size!

    However, the pop and whiffy smell (that could have been dust) is worrying. Jochen has offered to send me a new board though so I'd rather not touch the MAK Strike connector and leave it be. Don't want to affect my right to return the goods to him (unless he gives me permission to trim it down of course). :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,546 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Big +1 on shaving the Mak down. You only need to take a few mm off the left. If you've no Dremmel, a craft knife or even a hot kitchen knife should get through it very easily. From what I remember, that plastic is pretty soft.

    Fingers crossed nothing shorted and it's just a matter of making a bad connection. The effect you're talking about also sounds like something I was seeing when I wasn't getting enough power to my 6 slot board.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,195 ✭✭✭ondafly


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    UPDATE: Jochen at Arcade Forge has been absolutely awesome. He's offered to send me a new MAK Strike with a cut down JAMMA conenctor so it fits snug.

    He's even offered to send it while I send the other one back to him. That's awesome service, fair play to him. I might as well get the trimmed down one so at least it works with everything in future.

    Jochen is a good guy - and has sorted me out on few obscure things. Also good to know for scouting games etc. When he designed it originally I'd say he expected people to use a loom of some sort between devices, as you would with an arcade cab etc.

    Personally I'd probably just shave down the plastic on the blue edge connector and get playing some MVS :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    I bet after all this though it's fried. Just my luck!

    I'm going to check with Jochen and see if I can get permission to trim the edges down to test a flush fit. See if my MVS is wrecked completely or not. I have no Dremel alas so a stanley it is.

    If not I'll just send it back and wait for a new MAK Strike.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,546 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    That blue part that needs to be shaved down is extremely cheap to buy. I'd be very suprised if he said no.

    The thing about arcade hardware is a lot of the time it does need a bit of self modification. It's a long way from the modular 'everything fits' world of consoles! Part of the fun of it though :)


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