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Any Neo Geo AES owners?
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Yep! By default the difficulty is on either 3 or 4, I can't remember which. You can put it up and down.
In MAME you access the soft dip settings in game by pressing TAB. The menu is the exact same one as you'd see on the real hardware.
Nice. Is that what the "Level - 4" text is you see at the bottom of some games? I'm hoping Raiden is set at a high level as it's kicking my ass most times. Can only get to the 2nd boss on 1 credit so far.
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Yep! By default the difficulty for Neo Geo is on either 3 or 4, I can't remember which. You can put it up and down.
Can also change credits, how many lives you get per credit etc
In MAME you access the soft dip settings in game by pressing TAB. The menu is the exact same one as you'd see on the real hardware.
All the games I got for the MVS were set to 8. I was quick to drop them down a bit
The unibios is very handy when it comes to that stuff, blood colour, country settings etc.0 -
Master of the UniverseJoin Date:Posts: 36022
Nice. Is that what the "Level - 4" text is you see at the bottom of some games? I'm hoping Raiden is set at a high level as it's kicking my ass most times. Can only get to the 2nd boss on 1 credit so far.
That is exactly it. The difficulty level shows on the bottom of the screen. I wouldn't go lower than 4 to be honest. Keep it challenging
Not sure about Raiden, only dip switch settings I've really messed with are Neo Geo games. Unless someone has changed it it'll be on the default setting though. It's just a tough game!All the games I got for the MVS were set to 8. I was quick to drop them down a bit
The unibios is very handy when it comes to that stuff, blood colour, country settings etc.
Ah right! Nice one! The ones I've owned just had the standard bios. I'll need to get another 1 slot so will probably go down that route.
Unless I can somehow figure out a way of fitting a 6 slot in a candy :eek:0 -
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I have the odd browse of these forums once in a while, but felt compelled to sign up today to add my two pence to this discussion.
For me, my Neo Geo AES experience was extremely good when I got into the scene. I might as well share it and wholeheartedly recommend the console because there's nothing quite like owning the console if you are a serious gamer....
I got my AES from Hit Japan on eBay about four or five years ago. I had wanted one for a very long time, having heard about this legendary console, like many others, in video games magazines. The famous Edge magazine collectors' feature about it was the last straw! I was going to have to have one...
It did take me a while to get the money together for it. Having played some SNK fighters on other systems I just knew I would have to scrape the money together somehow. Eventually, I just bought the machine when I had the money and didn't really put much thought into the CD versions or MVS set-up. I wanted what Edge called "The Rolls-Royce of games conoles" and wanted to experience SNK's fighters on the original hardware. My console was boxed and in very good condition when it arrived with a complete copy of Samurai Spirits (Shodown) II. The day it arrived was amazing, it was like Christmas morning. I remember the amazement I had at the sheer size of the game cartridges - I couldn't believe the size! No online images or magazine pictures can prepare you....
A copy of Real Bout Fatal Fury was also in the psot, and arived a few days later. I played the **** out of both games and loved the experience once I got used to the arcade stick.
Why I think the AES is so special is somewhat because of the high price strangely enough. Now hear me out! Some people will think that's nuts, but for me the high price can actually be a good thing in a strange way....
Firstly, it stops you buying up loads of games too quickly. Buy a Dreamcast say, and you'll likely end up with a whole stack of €5-€10 games very quickly, and you'll unlikely play them all properly. You'll likely dip in and out of them all, before settling on one or two before you go buying again. With the AES, you'll only get one or two games at a time, and you'll play the heck out of them as you'll have no choice. You'll really get into you AES games and will likely get a lot of satisfaction from mastering them.
Also, you'll play the games because you invested money in them. How many of us have huge backlogs on here? I know I have a backlog of PS2 and DS games to complete, mainly because these formats are pretty cheap to buy for. Unless you are a millionaire, you'll never have an AES backlog!
And because the games can be expensive, you won't get all that many, meaning when you do get one... well it will be special.... if you know what I mean. You'll actually give it due time, you'll read the booklet, play it over and over again.... just like you'd have done eith a regular SNES or Mega Drive game when you were a kid. So it can be quite a nostalgic experience, even if you never played Neo Geo when you were young.
Now just to talk about the pricing of games - yes they are expensive for the most part, but there are some bargains on the machine. And there are some semi-expensive games, but ones which are well worth the money owing to their collectability, value retention and most importantly the high gameplay enjoyment which they offer. Bargains include the underrated King of Fighters '94, the acclaimed Samurai Shodown II, Fighters History Dynamite and Fatal Fury Special.
You have to be careful though to avoid that common trap which occurs to a lot of newbie AES gamers - they end up trying to buy up loads of games at once, like as if they had just bought the aforementioned Dreamcast, and end up terrible cheap and nasty software that they wouldn't have considered for a less expensive console like the SNES - just because its AES, doesn't necessarily mean its good! Thus avoid cheap garbage like Riding Hero, Wold Heroes 1, Raguy and Magician Lord (sorry if anyone does actually like those games!).
If you are "doing it right", you should be buying an AES cart every once in a while and the games you get should be savoured. I think two or three AES games a year is about right really after you first buy the system. Once you've bought a few games initially you should save up over time and get the likes of The Last Blade, Real Bout Fatal Fury Special, King of Fighters 2002, Last Resort, etc. These games sell for between €90 and €130 most of the time. That sounds like a lot but really, they should be viewed as collectable investments that are fun to play over long periods of time, and that can be enjoyed every now and then in the far off future.
There's also a lot to be said the the sheer pleasure of the sight of an AES game displyed on a shelf. MVS boxes just don't compare because they aren't original - they aren't the real deal. Holding an AES cart in your hands and admiring it is a truly special experience - especially if its a great game that you've wanted for ages and saved up for. And they actually feel expensive in your hands....
So thats my thoughts on the system and its games. For me its a very special machine with some truly excellent games if you enjoy arcade titles from back in the day. Its also a special console for those who enjoy video games history and lore as it was one of the longest served machine in history, even surviving the backruptcy of SNK in 2000. That brand new 2D 16-bit games like Rage of the Dragons and Samurai Shodown V Special were being realesed officially for the system, even in the West, in as recent as 2004 is pretty incredible when you think about it.
Now I'm a huge advocate for the system as you can see, but it is unreasonable for most sane people to be buying the likes of Metal Slug 1 and Blazing Star for the AES, so getting these for an MVS would be sensible down the line. The MVS is a great system of course, but will never be as collectable nor as special its home console counterpart, for me at least
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I get you Retr0gamer, and completely understand. Some people don't "get" the AES buzz and that's fair enough. For me though owning a few of these awesome games (I've 'only' got a dozen AES games) is magical.
One thing though that I would disagree with in your post is that you can "play" AES games too, as well as admire them in their pretty boxes
Like I was saying, the cost for AES games compared to their MVS equivalents isn't that much for quite a few games such as say, King of Fighters '98. And as well as getting a proper offical case with the former, you get instructions and art book as well.
Of course if you want the likes of Metal Slug, Breakers or Ninja Master's then its MVS is the way to go - it makes perfect sense, but the AES has its fans for the reasons I stated above in my overly-long first post. If you are patient an investment in AES really pays off, though the range is of course limited.
Each to their own, and people should follow the route that makes sense to them. I'm just arguing the case for the AES as there wasn't much argument for getting it over CD or MVS set-ups on here.
Just to clarify, I intend to get an MVS cabinet some day to play the likes of Blazing Star, Kizuno Encounter and Metal Slug 1 on SNK hardware.0 -
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I guess what's happening is the insane price of AES games is throwing you back to your childhood, where you could only have a few new games a year and cherished them.
As much as I'd love to...I just couldn't handle having to be careful with them all the time. My valuable games stay locked up only to be taken out when I want to look at them in awe. :pac:
Couldn't deal with having to be super careful with a €400 euro cart every time I wanted to play Blazing Star!0 -
I guess what's happening is the insane price of AES games is throwing you back to your childhood, where you could only have a few new games a year and cherished them.
Like the time all I got for Christmas and Birthday one year was Street Fighter 2 Turbo and Zombies Ate My Neighbours for my SNES on import.
I was delighted though and played the living buttocks out of them for months.
The following year I got Rock N Roll Racing for my gift and nearly unloaded gallons of stools all over the boat in excrement, I mean excitement!0 -
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Mr Vengeance wrote: »I get you Retr0gamer, and completely understand. Some people don't "get" the AES buzz and that's fair enough. For me though owning a few of these awesome games (I've 'only' got a dozen AES games) is magical.
I do get it. I'll just never be able to afford it! 0 -
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Mr Vengeance wrote: »Anyway, I would personally NOT recommend AES to anyone unless they enjoyed fighters.
In fairness I bought about 12 or 14 (I forget now) MVS carts, yesterday and today. Sadly one is a bootleg of Prehistoric Isle 2, which the lads here warned me about but the seller did state in his ad it was a bootleg, I don't mind for now, I'll buy a lefit one another day.
In the mix I bought a handful of fighters, just to check them out. I don't like fighters much at all though, never have really. Even as a kid I was always potty about 'Nemesis' and Silkworm. Even non typical shooters like the incredible Exile on the C64.Pyongyang mate, I think you and me will no doubt chat about shmups on here again. As well as being a huge fighting game fan, I too am nuts about shmups! I have a Saturn for that interest though.....
Absolutely, head over to the WARNING! SHMUP PORN! thread for a bit of shooter muck!
I've an NTSC-J Saturn and I only buy SHMUPS (and bizarre Japanese oddities like Mini Mart management simulators and dating simulators featuring imitation eggplants and a piece of toast that plays the saxophone).
I only buy NTSC-J though, keeping it as authentic as possible and admiring the fantastic cover art the Japanese enjoyed across all their systems over the years.
I've now amassed a collection that includes a Super Famicom, PC Engine Duo-R, Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast (admittedly PAL but BIOS flashed so it has an NTSC-J boot logo and 60hz mod chip), Neo Geo Pocket, PS1 (NTSC-U but chipped), PS1 (PAL) and PS2 (PAL, Matrix'ed) and PS2 Slim (NTSC-U), GBA, DS, DS Lite, DSi XL and lastly an XBOX 360.
Oh and not forgetting the MVS setup and a Wonderswan in the mail. Lots of SHMUPS to collect for all of them! 0 -
I guess what's happening is the insane price of AES games is throwing you back to your childhood, where you could only have a few new games a year and cherished them.
Yeah, there's a bit of that alright! I got my money's worth out of games like Tetris, Super Mario Bros and Zelda when I was a nipper!As much as I'd love to...I just couldn't handle having to be careful with them all the time. My valuable games stay locked up only to be taken out when I want to look at them in awe. :pac:
So what would these valuable games be then? Whats your collecting poisen in other words? 0 -
In the mix I bought a handful of fighters, just to check them out. I don't like fighters much at all though, never have really.
Do me a favour - do yourself a favour! Buy a copy of Real Bout Fatal Fury Special for the MVS. Forget the first Real Bout Fatal Fury, forget Fatal Fury Special.... get RBFFS nad it will change your opinion about fighting games - its perfection. Once you are done falling in love with that, pick up Real Bout Fatal Fury 2 - its even better, but you need RBFFS first.I only buy NTSC-J though, keeping it as authentic as possible and admiring the fantastic cover art the Japanese enjoyed across all their systems over the years.
I can spend.... whole minutes!.. just staring at the stunning front cover of Battle Garegga. The detail is just stunning. I also love drooling at the covers of Cav's games too. Espgaluda II in particular is magnificent.I've now amassed a collection that includes a Super Famicom, PC Engine Duo-R, Sega Saturn, Sega Dreamcast (admittedly PAL but BIOS flashed so it has an NTSC-J boot logo and 60hz mod chip), Neo Geo Pocket, PS1 (NTSC-U but chipped), PS1 (PAL) and PS2 (PAL, Matrix'ed) and PS2 Slim (NTSC-U), GBA, DS, DS Lite, DSi XL and lastly an XBOX 360.
Oh and not forgetting the MVS setup and a Wonderswan in the mail. Lots of SHMUPS to collect for all of them!
A great line-up of systems mate, looking similar to mine but my hardware is more PAL in nature. I also have a lot of Nintendo stuff.
I got a Dreamcast DC-X boot disc recently for my recently fdixed PAL DC (which I sorted out myself). First import shmup was the brutally hard Mars Matrix. Going to get Under Defeat and Zero Gunner 2 next....
I'll check out the shmup thread anyway mate, thanks!0 -
Mr Vengeance wrote: »So what would these valuable games be then? Whats your collecting poisen in other words?
Post that photo of your copy of Radiant Silvergun and you shall perish o1s1n!0 -
Mr Vengeance wrote: »I got a Dreamcast DC-X boot disc recently for my recently fdixed PAL DC (which I sorted out myself). First import shmup was the brutally hard Mars Matrix. Going to get Under Defeat and Zero Gunner 2 next....
I'll check out the shmup thread anyway mate, thanks!
Argh! All titles I'd love! Apart from Mars Matrix which I have (NTSC-J of course!).
If o1s1n posts his Radiant Silvergun then I'll post my copy of Karous Limited Edition with SG-OCD telephone card (and the invoice for my Sturmwind pre-order!). 0 -
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Mr Vengeance wrote: »Yeah, there's a bit of that alright! I got my money's worth out of games like Tetris, Super Mario Bros and Zelda when I was a nipper!
I think tetris has to be the best value for money game of all time. I would literally play that forever.Mr Vengeance wrote: »So what would these valuable games be then? Whats your collecting poisen in other words?
My poison? Everything, that's the bloody problem!
Started collecting rare Megadrive games years ago..best bits would be a Sonic Crackers proto (moment of absolute madness) and a very early unreleased beta of Zero Tolerance that's really different to the final version and as far as I know the only one in existence (and undumped! :eek:)
Then have a load of rare PAL releases like Wily Wars, Duke Nukem, Ecco Jr etc.
Have bits of everything though. If you work your way through the post here every time you get something new thread you'll see my slow descent into madness.
For the last while it's mainly been arcade hardware. Have a shedload of Neo Geo MVS carts. Dipped my toes in CPS2, but after 4 or 5 games I literally have no bloody room left for them!If o1s1n posts his Radiant Silvergun then I'll post my copy of Karous Limited Edition with SG-OCD telephone card (and the invoice for my Sturmwind pre-order!).
Unfortunately after Radiant Silvergun I can only retort with a standard Karous release.
Not a shmup, but can I see you Panzer Dragoon Saga?0 -
Argh! All titles I'd love! Apart from Mars Matrix which I have (NTSC-J of course!).
If o1s1n posts his Radiant Silvergun then I'll post my copy of Karous Limited Edition with SG-OCD telephone card (and the invoice for my Sturmwind pre-order!).
I got me a copy of Silvergun too! Was playing it last night and its a game that you can play and play and play. Its MASSIVE too for a shmup! Longest shooter ever?
I'd love a copy of Karous. Its not on my immediate "wants list" though - have to get those aforementioned DC shooters, Batsugun, Muchi Muchi Pork & Pink Sweets and an AES game for myself (either Fatal Fury 3, Fighters History Dynamite or King of Fighters '99) first. Should take a while before I get that lot!
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Not a shmup, but can I see you Panzer Dragoon Saga?
I can fold with Panzer Dragoon Zwei but could call with DoDonpachi Daiepoieioufkudsgkjdshfjdfhslkfhkldshlkdgshljh and Espgaluda for PS2 if that's alright?
As for Arcade hardware don't get me started. I'm in preliminary talks with the wife to allow me to purchase either a New Astro City or a Konami Windy II soon.
After that I've got my eye on full kits of Ibara and Esp Ra De.
Divorced within a year? :pac:0
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