Germany commissioner wants to humiliate Ireland officially!

Biggins · 13-09-2011 05:39PM

prinz wrote: »

.... lol, the irony hasn't sunk in yet.. but sure 'we come from that background'...

Good enough to throw the Nazi insinuations around apparently.

Well if they go around symbolising things just to separate and humiliate - do they expect ALL just to stay silent and accept it?
Sorry, I choose not to - you might feel different.

Going around in pointless circles.
We can agree to disagree.

prinz · 13-09-2011 05:40PM

Biggins wrote: »

Going around in pointless circles..

Usually what happens when hypocrits get on a bandwagon.

meglome · 13-09-2011 05:41PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Speak for yourself, and the Germans are hardly free of all blame for the problems which are affecting Europe as a whole right now.

As I said elsewhere, I welcome his comments and hope that others like him follow in his footsteps in order to remove any doubt that the EU in its current guise is utterly shambolic.

What blame do they have? People keep saying the Germans loaned us too much money. But the figures I've seen over in the politics forum don't show that. The actual figures show most of the money was borrowed on the international money markets, mainly US and UK based. The Germans tried to stop us doing what we ere doing and we flipped them a big arrogant finger. Honestly if I was German watching how we're actually blaming them on a situation we caused I've be very pissed off.

Latchy · 13-09-2011 05:43PM

If it was an Irish person in high office saying Ireland should be humiliated it would be open season but because it's a German, it raises the hackles even more .

marcsignal · 13-09-2011 05:43PM

gargleblaster wrote: »

Interesting. I wonder why the US hasn't adopted their policies.

Dunno, maybe they are embarrassed that some of the U.S. based organisations that hard working Germans are paying WW2 compensation to, in their taxes, are on the fiddle as well

super_furry · 13-09-2011 05:47PM

Anytime a German politician speaks about using symbols to humiliate a people, it's going go get backs up.

D1stant · 13-09-2011 05:52PM

Next logical step would be a tattoo on SW recipients arms to help identify them, or to act as a free train pass....

shofukan · 13-09-2011 05:55PM

Cool, now we won't have to pretend like we're not already humiliating ourselves.

Latchy · 13-09-2011 05:58PM

FetchTheGin wrote: »

He sounds delightful, maybe he will get all the countries involved to wear a star so that people know we are dirty debt ridden rats.

To the concentration camp Batman!

super_furry wrote: »

It's a good idea but it doesn't go far enough. All Irish citizens should be forced to have their heads shaved and have a green star attached to their clothing, that'll teach us!

D1stant wrote: »

Next logical step would be a tattoo on SW recipients arms to help identify them, or to act as a free train pass....

*adopts german accent * Please stop ...(glup) ....You're making me all exited now .

*resists urge to raise hand and click heels *

My name is URL · 13-09-2011 06:01PM

meglome wrote: »

What blame do they have? People keep saying the Germans loaned us too much money. But the figures I've seen over in the politics forum don't show that. The actual figures show most of the money was borrowed on the international money markets, mainly US and UK based. The Germans tried to stop us doing what we ere doing and we flipped them a big arrogant finger. Honestly if I was German watching how we're actually blaming them on a situation we caused I've be very pissed off.

The did lend too much money. The Germans like to save instead of spend or invest, and because of that, their banks had too much immobile money, so they then had to start lending vast amounts in order to avoid making a loss. And now as a result of that they are over-exposed. Of course they're not solely to blame either, but neither are we, or any other Euro-zone country solely to blame.

hatrickpatrick · 13-09-2011 06:06PM

Can we please differentiate "Germany" and "The German Government"?

I've spoken to Germans about what's going on and a lot of them are absolutely disgusted by their own government's behavior as well, just as most of us are disgusted by our last government's behavior.

Would you want someone to judge Ireland's people by the actions of FF?

I loathe the German government with an absolute passion but let's leave the rest of the German nation out of this - most of it isn't very fond of them either.

kate.m · 13-09-2011 06:07PM

I could be totally wrong about this but I read the germans (among others) were pushing the bailout because they had such a significant investment in the banks/etc here.

If a default were to have happened - the german investors (and other EU member states with investments obviously) would have lost out.

They're very quick to make it look like they're not gaining anything from the deal.

Orando Broom · 13-09-2011 06:10PM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Can we please differentiate "Germany" and "The German Government"?

Absolutely, once those automatons realise that you can't continue to punish the Irish for the folly of a cabal of politicians and their paymasters.

Why can't these eurofücks call for Ireland to investigate the criminality within our political system. They seem to be able to dictate everything else we do.

Fücking Germans, it's just over 70 years ago they were cooking a tenth of their population for worshipping the wrong God.

FetchTheGin · 13-09-2011 06:14PM

Merkel and the rest of her cronies are out come the next German election, according to opinion polls anyway, so as a previous poster said, blame the government not the people.

FetchTheGin · 13-09-2011 06:16PM

Also to all the people complaining about all the war jokes etc, Christ they are only jokes! In AH, noone is spared!!! :P

Latchy · 13-09-2011 06:17PM

I'm pretty sure the the average German is just as peed off on many aspects of their goverment as any other .

4leto · 13-09-2011 06:19PM

teol wrote: »

The great thing about having our own sovereignty and currency is that we can print money, creating inflation and effectively wiping out our debt. Just like the UK and the USA have done in the past 2 years.

We can't because it would also be paired with a massive flight of capital, our beleaguered banks would be gone and there will be nothing the government would be able to do.

Take me.
I have some moderate savings and I am already looking to how I can move them out of the Euro.

Dudess · 13-09-2011 06:34PM

hooradiation wrote: »

I am meant to be offended by this?
Is that what's meant to be happening here?

Yeah, I don't get what all the outrage is about. And lol at the irony of attacking German people - as an offended reaction to a (sort of) attack on the Irish.
Re Ireland's economic crash: the "We're all responsible" stuff is a load of cock, and the insecure ridiculing of Irish people... by Irish people is pathetic and toadying, e.g.

pmcmahon wrote: »

i think Irish take it to the next level though

But the Irish economy is a screw-up, due to financial incompetence, and most of us, even those of us who didn't take the piss and aren't to blame, did enjoy the fruits of the boom in some shape or form - no escaping it.

squod · 13-09-2011 06:36PM

Like to see Cowen on a fuhken pole.

Augmerson · 13-09-2011 06:37PM

4leto wrote: »

I just think those jokes are inane and moronic, everytime Germany make an announcement of any description the war is hauled up in some supposedly humourosh remark.

So when does that stop, how much time has to pass, do we mention the Roman bastards when Italy do something.

Did the Romans murder upwards of 6 million people in concentration camps and ignite a war that cost the lives of another 60 million? Did they invade Austria, Poland, Czechoslovakia, the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Denmark, Norway, Yugoslavia, the Ukraine, Belarus, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Russia?

Well....actually, they probably did invade a lot of places and kill a good couple of people....

Sorry, I know our government and our banking system ****ed up, but I've been working hard everyday of my life and I'll be ****ing damned if I have to watch them lower the tricolour to half mast to teach me a lesson that somebody else should be learning.

Fallschirmjager · 13-09-2011 06:42PM

4leto wrote: »

We can't because it would also be paired with a massive flight of capital, our beleaguered banks would be gone and there will be nothing the government would be able to do.

Take me.
I have some moderate savings and I am already looking to how I can move them out of the Euro.

What? Who gives a crap, that's what should happen failed companies. The banks fail, you sell them off and we get new banks. hopefully real ones rather than the crony sham we have now.

The Germans will crap themselves if that happened along with the French. Germany is on the hook for loss. Germany, french and the US are the main loaners (the US is worried it will rollup to them which is why they sent 1 trillion to the ECB). The reason we are paying now is they want their money. Let the banks fail and pay 1 cent on the euro. That's how capitalism works. There is a reason merkel, pee wee sarkozy and little timmy geitner won't let us do it, they want their money. The euro as it is now is a sham, it's a fake currency with no real backing. How else can a decision on the euro be made by just merkel and Heels sarkozy, that is not what was voted for. They have no authority to do that. We need to get all the PIIGS and now Belgium and more to follow by the way and say 1 cent on the euro. The only reason we are paying is german banks and French banks will fail if we do. They don't want to tell their pensioners all their money is gone so they pushed it onto us.

If you are worried about your savings, you can always invest in gold

Morlar · 13-09-2011 06:42PM

squod wrote: »

Like to see Cowen on a fuhken pole.

I can live with flying the flag at half mast so long as it's accompanied by a few heads on pike outside leinster house.

Logical Fallacy · 13-09-2011 06:44PM

Cool...all countries who's ruling power has at some point murdered about 12 million people should have to make **** porn and worse sausages.

See, that was easy.

squod · 13-09-2011 06:47PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVXi-F6vZ-Q

Can understand how Germans would be pissed off. The present government should never have been elected by us. The blame is placed squarely on the population because of the policies of FF/FG.

Günther Oettinger's statement is outrageous nonetheless.

Son Of A Vidic · 13-09-2011 06:48PM

It would be more appropriate to lower the German and French flags to half mast. Especially when you consider it is their big banks and their risks, that we are bailing out. Of course the thick fúck like the rest of them, conveniently overlooks this simple fact.

Chinasea · 13-09-2011 06:50PM

I think he has a point.

And remember how everyone got up on their high horses when the German Ambassaor dared to speak the truth back in '07.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/reprimand-for-german-envoy-over-his-coarse-irish-speech-1081773.html

Fallschirmjager · 13-09-2011 07:04PM

Chinasea wrote: »

I think he has a point.

And remember how everyone got up on their high horses when the German Ambassaor dared to speak the truth back in '07.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/reprimand-for-german-envoy-over-his-coarse-irish-speech-1081773.html

The only reason you could not have known where this was going in 07 was if you just came out of a coma.

Why didn't they demand that when german banks invested billions flooding money here that stimulated the fake boom. Capitalism is really simple, the lender makes sure you can pay as does the borrower. Our banks didn't do the latter so therefore they should fail. Their banks didn't do the former, they should fail.

hatrickpatrick · 13-09-2011 07:06PM

Orando Broom wrote: »

Absolutely, once those automatons realise that you can't continue to punish the Irish for the folly of a cabal of politicians and their paymasters.

Why can't these eurofücks call for Ireland to investigate the criminality within our political system. They seem to be able to dictate everything else we do.

Fücking Germans, it's just over 70 years ago they were cooking a tenth of their population for worshipping the wrong God.

And that tenth of the population were also Germans.
Bash the government all you like, I think they're absolute scum, but think about how much control the average Irishman on the street has over what goes on in the Dail and you'll realize how moronic it is to blast an entire nation for the behavior of a crappy government.

Most Germans I've spoken to don't want this crowd of assholes in their parliament any more than we do.

marcsignal · 13-09-2011 07:38PM

I honestly believe, if we want the Germans to take us seriously, we are going to have to begin by taking ourselves seriously.

I have no objections to our Government putting in the boot with cuts etc. PROVIDED they pull their collective finger out of their arses, and come down like an unmerciful ton of bricks, on on the group of parasites, that made good during the boom, by fiddling and conning their way to their houses on the hill.

C.A.B. were able to stalk, harrass, and persecute people like John Gilligan, Tony Felloni and all the rest, to recoup the money they had aquired through their 'unconventional business dealings'. They had them extradited from all over the place, froze their assets, and threw the book at them in the Irish courts. Why can this not be done with the likes of David Drumm ? Why aren't the Irish Government constantly lobbying the American Government to extradite Drumm?

Why aren't C.A.B. going after Bertie? and Seanie Fitz? and any of the other other 'scum sucking bottom dwellers' that are laughing at us? They are laughing at us because we deserve nothing better, in my opinion. We are lying down and letting this filth piss all over us.

If it means changing the law? Then Fcuking change it !!

If the average Irish man or woman was able to turn on the news, and see these people being brought into court in leg chains on TV, it would be an enormous help, in terms of us restoring our own self confidence as a people. We could begin to rebuild again, safe in the knowledge, that the people we have elected to represent us, actually care, instead of fluting around like a gang of blind retards in the gardens of a Victorian asylum. The Government seem cluless, and neutered. If the Drumms, and the Fitzies, and Callalys, are going to fiddle and get away with it, then I don't blame those ordinary people who fiddle the dole.

Monkey see, monkey do. Sure why should we worry ? Especially when we know the Krauts will still throw us a bananna from time to time.

/rant

squod · 13-09-2011 07:46PM

There's a whole load of complicit people still operating in the government and civil service marcsignal. Our chance to change things and prosecute those responsible will have to wait 'till after the next general election.

Germany commissioner wants to humiliate Ireland officially!

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