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Going into Maynooth 2011?

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  • #332
    Ragdoll742
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 133 ✭✭Ragdoll742


    Assuming everyone here is studying English, yeah? :P


  • #333
    Paczini
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    Ragdoll742 wrote: »
    Assuming everyone here is studying English, yeah? :P
    nope


  • #334
    karaokeman
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    Ragdoll742 wrote: »
    Assuming everyone here is studying English, yeah? :P

    Not anymore, I thought about it for a while but only jobs we can really get into with English is teaching.

    I'll be taking Greek & Roman Civilisation after that introductory lecture I had today.


  • #335
    LeixlipRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭LeixlipRed


    What jobs can one do with Greek and Roman Civilisation then? If you're looking to walk straight into a job you shouldn't be doing an Arts degree. Sounds harsh but it's true unless you're doing languages.


  • #336
    karaokeman
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    LeixlipRed wrote: »
    What jobs can one do with Greek and Roman Civilisation then? If you're looking to walk straight into a job you shouldn't be doing an Arts degree. Sounds harsh but it's true unless you're doing languages.

    Greek & Roman Civilisation teaches you to read critically, read texts critically and learn to examine from a critical point of view.

    It is good for any sort of journalism or job that involves writing up reports and having good analytical skills, not just learning to write essays and waffle your way to 5 or 6 pages.

    But I'm hoping to do pure Psychology so I will be putting most of my effort into it for 1st year. If I don't get in I will get a joint honours in Sociology and G&R. You can get into journalism with any combination of Arts subjects but those two are good for students who want to do some really well-informed journalism and want to write good stuff not just generic rubbish gossip.

    I assume you're not an Arts graduate yourself?


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  • #337
    LeixlipRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭LeixlipRed


    I am actually ;)

    Everything you just said there about Greek and Roman could be applied to any Arts subject including English btw. Are you just regurgitating what they told you in the intro talks? Go to the lectures first before you decide.


  • #338
    karaokeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭karaokeman


    LeixlipRed wrote: »
    Are you just regurgitating what they told you in the intro talks? Go to the lectures first before you decide.

    I've heard all the Arts jokes before, my parents could probably tell you more from their day.

    No, I don't recite exactly what I hear in a lecture. Everyone has their own interpretation of information they are given, that you learn in second level History.

    But I am stating my argument in my own words. I could go into great, boring detail about stuff I learned, which is not mentioned in the lecture for job opportunities but that would be unnecessary.

    Yes I will definitely be going to the English lectures before I make up my mind. Better to see what I would have missed before I miss the rest for 3 whole years, but I'm not usually the person to regret these things so I know I'll be happy with my choices whatever the outcome.


  • #339
    XxMCRxBabyxX
    Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 7,441 Mod ✭✭✭✭XxMCRxBabyxX


    karaokeman wrote: »
    LeixlipRed wrote: »
    What jobs can one do with Greek and Roman Civilisation then? If you're looking to walk straight into a job you shouldn't be doing an Arts degree. Sounds harsh but it's true unless you're doing languages.

    Greek & Roman Civilisation teaches you to read critically, read texts critically and learn to examine from a critical point of view.

    It is good for any sort of journalism or job that involves writing up reports and having good analytical skills, not just learning to write essays and waffle your way to 5 or 6 pages.

    But I'm hoping to do pure Psychology so I will be putting most of my effort into it for 1st year. If I don't get in I will get a joint honours in Sociology and G&R. You can get into journalism with any combination of Arts subjects but those two are good for students who want to do some really well-informed journalism and want to write good stuff not just generic rubbish gossip.

    I assume you're not an Arts graduate yourself?

    As leixlip said. You could say the same thing about any arts subject. Any subject in general tbh!

    And those two won't give you any more of an advantage in journalism than any other arts subjects.

    You might need to do a little more research tbh...

    And no one even made an arts joke...


  • #340
    squishykins
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    LeixlipRed wrote: »
    Sounds harsh but it's true unless you're doing languages.

    And Maths :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

    Absolutely cannot wait to get back now I'm not doing Music! German and Maths FTW!


  • #341
    LeixlipRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭LeixlipRed


    I never made a joke, I told you my degree is an arts degree. Different slightly because it's maths but nonetheless, I done Arts. No one is criticising you, just be a bit more open minded about things. You're judging subjects when you haven't even started them yet. You're thinking about a career when you haven't begun university. Slow down might be another piece of advice ;)


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  • #342
    Aldebaran
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    Getting into journalism is more about making contacts and gaining experience. There isn't really a degree out there that can give you advantage in getting into the business, except maybe a pure Journalism degree, and even then you'll be told how it's much more important to make contacts and gain writing experience.


  • #343
    LeixlipRed
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,081 ✭✭✭LeixlipRed


    squishykins wrote: »
    And Maths :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

    Absolutely cannot wait to get back now I'm not doing Music! German and Maths FTW!

    Maths Studies degree won't get you a job automatically. Dunno anyone who's come from that degree into a maths related field. I done that degree and it's not worth the paper it's written on to be honest. Especially in this climate of prospective employers analysing course content more critically these days. But good gateway into teaching though you'll be under prepared mathematically. At least you have German :pac:


  • #344
    karaokeman
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    LeixlipRed wrote: »
    Maths Studies degree won't get you a job automatically

    Most careers seem to require at least a postgrad nowadays so in a general sense, a degree in many disciplines isn't enough. Likewise with Arts, having said that its better to have an idea where you would like to go with it after.
    LeixlipRed wrote: »
    I never made a joke, I told you my degree is an arts degree

    I apologize for my statement about it being a joke. And you're right I shouldn't jump to conclusions as easily as I do.
    LeixlipRed wrote: »
    No one is criticising you, just be a bit more open minded about things. You're judging subjects when you haven't even started them yet. You're thinking about a career when you haven't begun university. Slow down might be another piece of advice wink.gif

    I understand that. I can't really see myself going to lectures for 6 or 7 different subjects a week.

    I know that it's college, workload will be more difficult and a much bigger deal than secondary school work. That's why I feel the need to start studying as soon as I can and by only going to 4 subjects for the first few weeks until 14th October I will have more time to do that.

    But I'll see, I picked Psych, Soci and G&R because they interest me and that's the important thing at the end of the day.

    What should be noted too is writing for college papers is a good way to get experience for journalism. Its just another option, I'm hard set on doing Psychology so I will make sure to keep plenty of time for that.


  • #345
    mp3guy
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    karaokeman wrote: »

    I understand that. I can't really see myself going to lectures for 6 or 7 different subjects a week.

    Just go to the first or second lecture of each subject to get a taster. Look at past exams.
    karaokeman wrote: »
    I know that it's college, workload will be more difficult and a much bigger deal than secondary school work.

    No, it won't. At least until your final year(s). Depending on how well you want to do.


  • #346
    squishykins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,338 ✭✭✭squishykins


    LeixlipRed wrote: »
    Maths Studies degree won't get you a job automatically. Dunno anyone who's come from that degree into a maths related field. I done that degree and it's not worth the paper it's written on to be honest. Especially in this climate of prospective employers analysing course content more critically these days. But good gateway into teaching though you'll be under prepared mathematically. At least you have German :pac:

    Yeah I'm planning on doing the PGDE after. And hopefully a Masters etc, but I'll have to wait and see what the finances are like, I am quite poor ^^;


  • #347
    XxMCRxBabyxX
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    Karaokeman you seem to "know" everything already.
    Why don't you just take things a bit easier and stop needing to know everything! It's college! Have an open mind!


  • #348
    karaokeman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭karaokeman


    XxMCRxBabyxX wrote: »
    Karaokeman you seem to "know" everything already.
    Why don't you just take things a bit easier and stop needing to know everything! It's college! Have an open mind!

    I obviously don't know "everything".

    I'm only making judgements based on what I've read about the Psychology, G&R, English and other courses and what I've read on the career opportunities.

    I've read this from the undergraduate prospectus, information leaflets on career paths and so fort.

    But I definitely want to make the right choice, so as I've said I will have an open mind while the chance is there.


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