'Inception' Mega Thread SPOILERS FROM POST 292 ONWARDS

Richard Dower · 11-11-2010 12:22AM

Bacchus wrote: »

Was it not that the inception worked perfectly on Mol and accepted on such a root level that she wasn't able to escape the belief that she was still dreaming. This led to her to kill herself so she could "wake up".

On reflection...a valid point.

mikhail · 11-11-2010 08:05PM

expectationlost wrote: »

does anyone feel that the snow base scene was leftover bond script that nolan didn't get to make? or was this a fantasy of the cobol guy to be bond?

Nolan specifically pegged it as an homage to Bond.

Rabidlamb · 13-11-2010 02:32AM

Just finished watching it for a 3rd time.
I actually picked up more clues this time than my second watch.
This film is like a fine wine for releasing information.

tok9 · 13-11-2010 11:51AM

This is an underrated track on the soundtrack imo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbwNnJ7UMek

My favourite along with Time. It's also perfectly suited to the scene it's in, with fischer and his father

L31mr0d · 21-11-2010 02:53AM

Watched it today, twice (watched it first on my own, then my OH came home so I watched it again with her, to see if a second viewing would change my initial impressions). It left me decidedly underwhelmed, both times. Covers no new ground. I've seen it all before in episodes of ST:TNG, eXistenZ, some animes... etc.

People saying that it's refreshing for a film to not baby the audience. BS! Maybe it's due to rewatching Primer recently and currently rewatching The Wire but I felt constantly babied throughout, with pointless recaps of previous scenes, verbally confirming what we've already been shown, verbally explaining the concepts to characters within the film that would of already been aware of them. (e.g

Saito requests an Inception, and Arthur feels the need to patronize him with a simplistic analogy about elephants. Would Saito not already know at least this much about an Inception to be requesting it?

)

Later, Arthur,

creates a penrose stairs paradox to fool a projection, then pauses momentarily, for no apparent reason, as the camera pans down before saying to the Projection: "Paradox!"

. It felt like I was watching an 80's action film.

I will also agree with others that I felt no emotional attachment to any of the characters. I was left cold by the ending and

really didn't care if the top toppled or not. I expected an ending similar to that of eXistenZ, and got it.

On top of all this, I feel Nolan overused the musical score in this film. It felt like he was telling me "If you don't know how you are supposed to feel during this scene, just have a listen to the score and let it tell you what to feel"... I will admit that the score is probably the best aspect of the film. But, in this regard, it is used to ad nauseam.

It's watchable, but it's not great. I'd rank it below the Matrix: Reloaded. I doubt I'll bother watching it again in the next decade.

Corholio · 21-11-2010 04:39PM

L31mr0d wrote: »

. I'd rank it below the Matrix: Reloaded. I doubt I'll bother watching it again in the next decade.

I didn't agree with your points you made in the post but they were decent points, and then you said this. Matrix: Reloaded was tripe and obnoxious in the extreme. Im genuinely shocked anyone could think it was better than Inception.

SVG · 21-11-2010 05:42PM

L31mr0d wrote: »

I'd rank it below the Matrix: Reloaded.

I like that you've measured it against another film with an "architect".:)

Monty Burnz · 21-11-2010 05:47PM

Haven't read the whole thread but I thought this film was very, very Philip K. Dick - especially with regard to Ubik and the Transmigration of Timothy Archer, and the later novels.

Great to see some intelligent science fiction doing well at the box office.

Monty Burnz · 21-11-2010 05:49PM

Corholio wrote: »

I didn't agree with your points you made in the post but they were decent points, and then you said this. Matrix: Reloaded was tripe and obnoxious in the extreme. Im genuinely shocked anyone could think it was better than Inception.

+1

Saw it again recently. Forgot how lame it was, not a patch on the original Matrix.

dr.bollocko · 21-11-2010 06:48PM

Monty Burnz wrote: »

+1

Saw it again recently. Forgot how lame it was, not a patch on the original Matrix.

But Inception was also gloomy, dull, overly long, poorly acted crap that had disappeared completely up itself also. IMO the matrix reloaded is a pretty decent comparison..

L31mr0d · 21-11-2010 09:22PM

Corholio wrote: »

I didn't agree with your points you made in the post but they were decent points, and then you said this. Matrix: Reloaded was tripe and obnoxious in the extreme. Im genuinely shocked anyone could think it was better than Inception.

Inception/Matrix: Reloaded:

Same:-
2D Characters
Predictable Plot
Decent Score

The only reason I ranked Inception lower than the Matrix: Reloaded is due to the action sequences. The action in the Matrix: Reloaded is better than Inception.

Don't get me wrong, the films are both close to being equal. The Matrix: Reloaded, imo, wins it by a nose.

Monty Burnz · 22-11-2010 09:56AM

L31mr0d wrote: »

Inception/Matrix: Reloaded:

Same:-
2D Characters
Predictable Plot
Decent Score

The only reason I ranked Inception lower than the Matrix: Reloaded is due to the action sequences. The action in the Matrix: Reloaded is better than Inception.

Don't get me wrong, the films are both close to being equal. The Matrix: Reloaded, imo, wins it by a nose.

The Matrix Reloaded has one of the most woeful, leaden, stilted scripts in cinema history. Most of the characters could be called 'Exposition'. Not that Inception has a wonderful script, but it doesn't continually jump up and smack you in the face with its terribleness...

jaykhunter · 22-11-2010 11:27PM

Watched Inception there again. Quite enjoyable but incredibly convoluted. Awesome.

Questions though :

How did Cobb get to limbo the first time round? (I mean, he was there before the film started) I get that he and his wife built a ton of buildings/homes there though. Em, and wouldn't those have taken 1000s of years to build? 2 people; unless you can just dream the buildings up I guess.

Why couldn't they use the defibrillator on Cillian straight away? Why did they have to wait until Ellen Page saves him in Limbo? Was that the only way to get him out of limbo; was his mind already there when he died but his body was still salvageable?

Mickeroo · 22-11-2010 11:43PM

jaykhunter wrote: »

Questions though :

How did Cobb get to limbo the first time round? (I mean, he was there before the film started) I get that he and his wife built a ton of buildings/homes there though. Em, and wouldn't those have taken 1000s of years to build? 2 people; unless you can just dream the buildings up I guess.

Him and the wife were experimenting with strong sedatives and dream wthiin dreams i think, they were deep under for too long. To them it seemed like years and they can indeed dream the buildings up, it actually showed them doing this in the movie.

jaykhunter wrote: »

Why couldn't they use the defibrillator on Cillian straight away? Why did they have to wait until Ellen Page saves him in Limbo? Was that the only way to get him out of limbo; was his mind already there when he died but his body was still salvageable?

The defibrillator was the "Jump" needed to bring them back up, just like the explosives in the elevator and the crashing van. They needed time to find him down there which is why they didn't do it straight away, otherwise his mind would have been trapped in limbo.

jaykhunter · 29-11-2010 08:10AM

Saw this, thought it was awesome. Inception in LEGO.

SVG · 06-12-2010 04:04PM

I love that people take the time to do these things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHBlYJ-tKcs

spank_inferno · 06-12-2010 06:23PM

Its out on DVD now.... rented it on the weekend.

So, months later... was I still blown away?

Yes.... yes I was!

OutlawPete · 11-03-2011 09:04PM

UCI in Blanchardstown are showing a Senior screening of this on Tuesday the 15th next @ 1.30pm.

For major fans I suppose you could borrow a cane and shuffle your way in

Basq · 11-03-2011 09:23PM

Jesus... that's one film to taunt senile oul wans!

mikhail · 11-03-2011 09:41PM

Basq wrote: »

Jesus... that's one film to taunt senile oul wans!

Loud enough to hear without a hearing aid though!

johnny_ultimate · 30-05-2011 01:56AM

Finally got around to watching this for a second time. Haters be damned: Inception is ****ing awesome

Free from the hype and expectations that came with a first viewing, it's easier to analyse and criticse it more. The first half is certainly a bit slow - especially when you know what's going on, the lengthy explanations do get in the way of the plot advancing. And yes, there are very small inconsistencies throughout that may annoy. But I didn't really care - it's simply a damn good film.

I still think it's vitally important to remember this is an action film first and foremost - it's a heist movie, a James Bond film, and plenty of straight up ass kicking. It's the structure, ideas and delivery that make it unique. It's the confidence of the script and art design, the intensity of the soundtrack, the tightly controlled direction.

It's a blockbuster, and you can't forget that. It's there to entertain. But in a summer with a particularly bland lineup of blockbusters coming our way (Super 8 is the only one that has me reasonably curious) it's this sort of thoughtful, intelligent big budget film that is severely lacking.

The Christopher Nolan hype train may be out of control at the best of times, but he's certainly one of cinema's most accomplished entertainers. Long may he get handed blank cheques.

Fuzzy_Dunlop · 30-05-2011 03:06AM

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Finally got around to watching this for a second time. Haters be damned: Inception is ****ing awesome

Free from the hype and expectations that came with a first viewing, it's easier to analyse and criticse it more. The first half is certainly a bit slow - especially when you know what's going on, the lengthy explanations do get in the way of the plot advancing. And yes, there are very small inconsistencies throughout that may annoy. But I didn't really care - it's simply a damn good film.

I still think it's vitally important to remember this is an action film first and foremost - it's a heist movie, a James Bond film, and plenty of straight up ass kicking. It's the structure, ideas and delivery that make it unique. It's the confidence of the script and art design, the intensity of the soundtrack, the tightly controlled direction.

It's a blockbuster, and you can't forget that. It's there to entertain. But in a summer with a particularly bland lineup of blockbusters coming our way (Super 8 is the only one that has me reasonably curious) it's this sort of thoughtful, intelligent big budget film that is severely lacking.

The Christopher Nolan hype train may be out of control at the best of times, but he's certainly one of cinema's most accomplished entertainers. Long may he get handed blank cheques.

This is sort of going off topic but your post just reminded me how much I'd love to see Chris Nolan directing a Bond film. I'm pretty sure he has expressed an interest in doing so and I'm confident he'd give us a really great Bond with some great action as well as trying to provide more meat to the character in the same ilk as Casino Royale.

Handsome Bob · 12-09-2011 09:20AM

Fuzzy_Dunlop wrote: »

This is sort of going off topic but your post just reminded me how much I'd love to see Chris Nolan directing a Bond film. I'm pretty sure he has expressed an interest in doing so and I'm confident he'd give us a really great Bond with some great action as well as trying to provide more meat to the character in the same ilk as Casino Royale.

I vaguely remember someone saying that Nolan is a Bond fan, and that he actually said that if he was to make a Bond film, Tom Hardy would be his Bond.

I bought Inception on Blu Ray and the audio is just fantastic. I was blown away every time Half Remembered Dream boomed on the speakers. :pac:

Besides for all the action sequences I think my favourite scene is the scene in the warehouse in the immediate aftermath of Saito getting shot. Nobody can go absolute bat **** crazy on screen like DiCaprio can. :pac:

Jaden · 12-09-2011 09:25AM

I tried to read the whole thread, but I have a job, so no dice. Why does anyone care about the top spinning at the end? I thought it's just a red herring?

Klingon Hamlet · 12-09-2011 05:53PM

Jaden wrote: »

I tried to read the whole thread, but I have a job, so no dice. Why does anyone care about the top spinning at the end? I thought it's just a red herring?

It was Cobb's "anchor" for the entire film until the end, when he could finally focus on his children. Happy ending in the most mind-boggling way:D

staker · 12-09-2011 05:57PM

But we never saw whether it stayed spinning or stopped?

Klingon Hamlet · 12-09-2011 06:07PM

There's the slowdown as it's toppling, but you only hear it.

Jaden · 12-09-2011 06:11PM

I thought his totem was his wedding ring? Was the spinning not not his wifes?

Also, End of Titanic - You never see Leo die, he just slips under the waves.
Start of Inception - Washed up on beach.

Oh Dear.

staker · 12-09-2011 06:15PM

That's true,but it does leave an opening...

I thoroughly enjoyed the movie and got it almost straight from the off.Brilliant concept so well put together.
My only quib and it's been growing with his later films-Di Caprio is getting to be a very one-dimensional actor playing the part of quirky individuals.
I'd prefer to see him do something new next time out or nothing at all tbh.

Mickeroo · 12-09-2011 08:49PM

Klingon Hamlet wrote: »

There's the slowdown as it's toppling, but you only hear it.

I think that's a myth. I've never been able to hear it anyway

'Inception' Mega Thread *SPOILERS FROM POST 292 ONWARDS*

Comments

'Inception' Mega Thread SPOILERS FROM POST 292 ONWARDS