Have you ever completely changed your mind about something?

SafeSurfer · 08-09-2011 02:16AM

I used to be quite right wing and think that people in prison, on the margins, the most vulnerable in our society etc some how deserved it.

Now I think that could be anyone of us.

lemonjelly · 08-09-2011 02:22AM

Never thought Alcoholism was so nice.

vicecreamsundae · 08-09-2011 03:37AM

i was straight edge for about a decade, and was also very anti-abortion.

am no longer straight edge -just stopped caring about it. though i certainly don't regret my straight edge days, but man, i do love beer.

i'm now actively pro-choice and cringe at the self righteous and downright sexist things i used to say!

enfant terrible · 08-09-2011 04:03AM

A Primal Nut wrote: »

For example, I used to think Amanda Knox was guilty, that she was the manipulative, crazy person she was portrayed as, and the Americans just don't trust the rest of the world to get anything right (despite the failings of their own justice system). Until I read this:

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-neverending-nightmare-of-amanda-knox-20110627

For example, it basically explains the context behind her strange behaviour (why she was buying underwear, doing cartwheels, etc) which makes it clear it wasn't strange at all; like the media tried to portray it. There are many other things (like the lack of a time of death) which I didn't know about before. So I changed my mind and now hope she is freed.

Change back

General and circumstantial evidence:

- Alibis changed several times.
- Inconsistencies in alibis, which still remain.
- Alibis contradicted by 3 independent witnesses, and by analysis of computer hard drive.
- Witness saw them both outside cottage with knives that night.
- Cell phones switched off early in evening, contrary to normal habits.
- Break-in was faked, nobody but Knox and Sollecito had a motive.
- Washing machine was run on morning after murder, and cleanup attempted long after Guede had fled.
- Victim's injuries point to more than one attacker, as do footprints and witness hearing running feet.
- Highly improbable story of Knox showering in house on morning after murder, unworried by broken window, open door, blood stains, unflushed toilet.
- Lie by Sollecito about phone call from father that evening.
- Lie by Sollecito about Meredith being pricked with knife while cooking.
- Lie about what time they called the Carabanieri.
- Knox had knowledge about manner of victim's death even before the police knew.
- False accusation by Knox against Patrick. Knox told mother shortly afterwards that Patrick was innocent, but neither made any attempt to tell police or lawyers.
- Knox may have been on bad terms with victim.

Forensic evidence:

- Knife with victim's DNA in Sollecito's apartment.
- Sollectio's DNA on victims bra, possibly Knox's DNA on victim's bra.
- Knox's blood mixed with victim's blood: in bathroom (3 places), hallway, room with faked break-in.
- Footprints in blood compatible with Knox in hallway, cleaned after murder, revealed with luminol.
- Footprint in victim's blood compatible with Sollecito on bathmat.
- Print of woman's shoe compatible with Knox's shoe size (not victim's) under victim's body.
- A number of forensic experts called by the defence were unable to dent the prosecution case.

Background (not evidence in itself, but supports evidence):

- Knox: heavy marijuana and alcohol user, casually slept with many men. Fined for wild party in Seattle. Cold, abnormal behavior after murder: "She f-ing bled to death". Laughing, kissing, making faces in police station soon after murder. Day after body discovered Knox shopped for sexy lingerie, kissed in public, talked about wild sex. Cartwheels in police station waiting room. Didn't attend memorial for victim, went for pizza instead.
- Sollecito: arrogant and spoiled, marijuana and cocaine user, collected knives and always carried a knife with him. Collected violent, pornographic comics. Collected besiality porn. Had poster of serial killer on his wall. Wanted 'extreme experiences'.

Lanaier · 08-09-2011 05:15AM

When I was a kid I used to think Ireland was a total kip, one of the worst places/people in the world.

How little I knew.

Lanaier · 08-09-2011 05:21AM

To add to that... I thought religion in general was the source of most of the problems and strife in this world.

I now see that was an immature perspective, and that religion is often merely the vehicle for such things - if there was no religion those things would have happened anyway under the guise of some other excuse.

Lanaier · 08-09-2011 05:30AM

JerryHandbag wrote: »

I thought Will Smith was a crap actor, til I saw The Pursuit Of Happyness

Same.
Used to hate him, that movie changed my mind.

OPENROAD · 08-09-2011 05:33AM

Yup, was in Starbucks earlier, changed my mind completely and got a Venti Latte instead of a Grande.

efb · 08-09-2011 05:59AM

Abortion. From anti abortion to pro choice.

Shawna Watson · 08-09-2011 06:32AM

Micky Dolenz wrote: »

Anal sex. It's not all it's cracked up to be.

I'm just so uased to saying what I want to knd79 is not I do believe that she's not the only person that is psychic.Maybe she can help you win alot of money.I like her very much and I really want to be back on your Twitter page Pretty please?I love you both.

AhSureTisGrand · 08-09-2011 07:27AM

Shawna Watson wrote: »

I'm just so uased to saying what I want to knd79 is not I do believe that she's not the only person that is psychic.Maybe she can help you win alot of money.I like her very much and I really want to be back on your Twitter page Pretty please?I love you both.

Shawna Watson · 08-09-2011 09:59PM

Oh Yea

AhSureTisGrand · 08-09-2011 10:01PM

Shawna Watson wrote: »

Oh Yea

Ah right I get ya...

gargleblaster · 08-09-2011 11:47PM

Right.

To avoid that fvcking thread full of Iraq war cheerleaders I will now answer the OP seriously.

I've had a few road to Damascus moments. Most significantly about abortion, but also about neo-con philosophy. Not for very long, or very seriously, so I'm not sure it even counts - but every so often I think, ever so briefly, that maybe Strauss had it right. If people really are so fvcking gullible and stupid then why not lie to them and manipulate them and use them like sheep to be sheared? It never lasts long, though. I couldn't live with myself if I thought like that.

RichieC · 08-09-2011 11:48PM

Cheese and onion hulahoops. I don't like them anymore.

in fact fk hula hoops, they hurt your mouth anyway.

kincsem · 08-09-2011 11:50PM

Fianna Fail

jugger0 · 08-09-2011 11:51PM

Pineapple on pizza... dont dis it till you've tried it.

HellFireClub · 09-09-2011 12:04AM

Travellers, I used to have a "live and let live" attitude towards them. Now I don't, we'll leave it at that...

lolo62 · 09-09-2011 12:14AM

i love changing my mind....i used to never allow myself because i was terrified people would think i was fickle...we are very hard on eachother and if faced with a competitive situation its the easiest way to dismiss of someone...........HA...GOTCHA!!!! you changed youre mind! call the police!!!

pragmatic1 · 09-09-2011 12:17AM

Used to believe in God.

pragmatic1 · 09-09-2011 12:18AM

Kanoe wrote: »

I used to think that people were mostly good

People are mostly good. You just have to be realistic in your expectations.

jugger0 · 09-09-2011 12:21AM

pragmatic1 wrote: »

Used to believe in God.

Imagine if you died and he was real and he was like "guess where you're going ya little bollox!, and its not heaven" thats why i'll never be an atheist.

pragmatic1 · 09-09-2011 12:40AM

jugger0 wrote: »

Imagine if you died and he was real and he was like "guess where you're going ya little bollox!, and its not heaven" thats why i'll never be an atheist.

Well in that case hes the bollix and he can **** right off.

Yahew · 09-09-2011 12:40AM

enfant terrible wrote: »

A Primal Nut wrote: »

For example, I used to think Amanda Knox was guilty, that she was the manipulative, crazy person she was portrayed as, and the Americans just don't trust the rest of the world to get anything right (despite the failings of their own justice system). Until I read this:

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-neverending-nightmare-of-amanda-knox-20110627

For example, it basically explains the context behind her strange behaviour (why she was buying underwear, doing cartwheels, etc) which makes it clear it wasn't strange at all; like the media tried to portray it. There are many other things (like the lack of a time of death) which I didn't know about before. So I changed my mind and now hope she is freed.

Change back

General and circumstantial evidence:

- Alibis changed several times.
- Inconsistencies in alibis, which still remain.
- Alibis contradicted by 3 independent witnesses, and by analysis of computer hard drive.
- Witness saw them both outside cottage with knives that night.
- Cell phones switched off early in evening, contrary to normal habits.
- Break-in was faked, nobody but Knox and Sollecito had a motive.
- Washing machine was run on morning after murder, and cleanup attempted long after Guede had fled.
- Victim's injuries point to more than one attacker, as do footprints and witness hearing running feet.
- Highly improbable story of Knox showering in house on morning after murder, unworried by broken window, open door, blood stains, unflushed toilet.
- Lie by Sollecito about phone call from father that evening.
- Lie by Sollecito about Meredith being pricked with knife while cooking.
- Lie about what time they called the Carabanieri.
- Knox had knowledge about manner of victim's death even before the police knew.
- False accusation by Knox against Patrick. Knox told mother shortly afterwards that Patrick was innocent, but neither made any attempt to tell police or lawyers.
- Knox may have been on bad terms with victim.

Forensic evidence:

- Knife with victim's DNA in Sollecito's apartment.
- Sollectio's DNA on victims bra, possibly Knox's DNA on victim's bra.
- Knox's blood mixed with victim's blood: in bathroom (3 places), hallway, room with faked break-in.
- Footprints in blood compatible with Knox in hallway, cleaned after murder, revealed with luminol.
- Footprint in victim's blood compatible with Sollecito on bathmat.
- Print of woman's shoe compatible with Knox's shoe size (not victim's) under victim's body.
- A number of forensic experts called by the defence were unable to dent the prosecution case.

Background (not evidence in itself, but supports evidence):

- Knox: heavy marijuana and alcohol user, casually slept with many men. Fined for wild party in Seattle. Cold, abnormal behavior after murder: "She f-ing bled to death". Laughing, kissing, making faces in police station soon after murder. Day after body discovered Knox shopped for sexy lingerie, kissed in public, talked about wild sex. Cartwheels in police station waiting room. Didn't attend memorial for victim, went for pizza instead.
- Sollecito: arrogant and spoiled, marijuana and cocaine user, collected knives and always carried a knife with him. Collected violent, pornographic comics. Collected besiality porn. Had poster of serial killer on his wall. Wanted 'extreme experiences'.

I am totally convinced of her innocence now. Was on the fence, but a collection of half truths and character assassinations ( ooh! she slept with men!) has convinced me. Thanks.

I have stopped being a libertarian. Two reasons : 1) it's clear that equality of opportunity is not open to all, nor that capitalism rewards the hardest or best of it's citizens according to their abilities or by a fair market mechanism - as "fair" as the market can be I mean - see Bankers.

2) it's a cult - the libertarians I have left behind have seen no reason to change their opinions as the evidence changed. Boards' libertarians have , more than anything, convinced me that the ideology is cultish. Thanks for that Boards.

I am still not a socialist. Centre right.

Kanoe · 09-09-2011 12:41AM

pragmatic1 wrote: »

People are mostly good. You just have to be realistic in your expectations.

I think they are mostly idiots.

Deus Ex Machina · 09-09-2011 01:25AM

I used to be an existentialist but now I'm a nihilist.

Sarah? · 09-09-2011 01:33AM

As a wee lass I used to run all the time instead of walking... :rolleyes:

Lanaier · 09-09-2011 01:42AM

jugger0 wrote: »

Imagine if you died and he was real and he was like "guess where you're going ya little bollox!, and its not heaven" thats why i'll never be an atheist.

Hell for not believing in Him, how benevolent and wise of Him.
Does living a good life and being the best person you can hold no value next to simple blind faith?

That's not a "heaven" I would wish to spend an eternity in.

Greentopia · 09-09-2011 01:48AM

I used to think classical music was boring-thank's school! :rolleyes: now I really like it.

Dravokivich · 09-09-2011 12:11PM

jugger0 wrote: »

Imagine if you died and he was real and he was like "guess where you're going ya little bollox!, and its not heaven" thats why i'll never be an atheist.

I'm not really too sure if you're just taking the piss, but belief is not meant to be used as an escape clause.

By someone being an atheist, it doesn't necessarily mean that they are evil, lack any sense of morality or are unable to be a good person purely for the sake of not being a prick.

Have you ever completely changed your mind about something?

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