Will the zombie craze ever die out?

ScumLord · 07-09-2011 01:09PM

Deleted User wrote: »

It's very possible that the recently turned will be able to run, because no decay has set in. However as time passes, they'll become the shambling mess that usually gets depicted.

Up to a point, the thing is they are sick and dying, the other problem is their body isn't working as normal any more, they're not extracting fuel from food and transporting oxygen to organs any more. Where does the fuel come from to help them run? The only fuel source they have left is their own tissues.

07-09-2011 01:12PM

Someone said that they would love to see a completely CG Zombie-fest. Hell no. They did this for I Am Legend and I genuinely think it took a lot away from any possible scare factor. What makes Zombies so frightening is that it is your loved ones that could be eternally coming after you. Human actors with possible CG make-up is far more startling.

Logical Fallacy · 07-09-2011 01:13PM

ScumLord wrote: »

Up to a point, the thing is they are sick and dying, the other problem is their body isn't working as normal any more, they're not extracting fuel from food and transporting oxygen to organs any more. Where does the fuel come from to help them run? The only fuel source they have left is their own tissues.

Exactly...the fact that the first thing the human body will shed in times of starvation is muscle would mean that pretty much from the get go the zombies would be digesting themselves, getting weaker, building up lactic acid and other waste products with no way to remove them and all other manner of biological issues from cutting themselves walking into stuff, the wounds getting infected rapidly due to no functioning immune system and bloating up like a big balloon.

A genuine zombie outbreak would be a comedy, not a horror.

DjFlin · 07-09-2011 01:13PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Someone said that they would love to see a completely CG Zombie-fest. Hell no. They did this for I Am Legend and I genuinely think it took a lot away from any possible scare factor. What makes Zombies so frightening is that it is your loved ones that could be eternally coming after you. Human actors with possible CG make-up is far more startling.

I hated I am Legend. It was nothing like the book

LeeHoffmann · 07-09-2011 01:14PM

Where does the fuel come from to help them run?

and you need oxygen to run but I thought they're not supposed to be breathing? I can overlook that kind of thing though and I think they can provide some 'scientific' explanation, but nothing explains the ripping apart of bodies with bare hands. Are there any other particular aspects of zombie films (aside from the basic concept of zombies) that stretch the fantasy too far?

the fact that the first thing the human body will shed in times of starvation is muscle would mean that pretty much from the get go the zombies would be digesting themselves, getting weaker

for certain zombie movies, isn't the solanum virus supposed to be alive and this accounts why the body doesn't just break down? Also, zombies don't starve - they eat humans (lots of tasty humans around in the early stages at least)

07-09-2011 01:16PM

Yes, but how long would it take for a person to get that way? it's likely to be for a few days at least, right?

Logical Fallacy · 07-09-2011 01:20PM

LeeHoffmann wrote: »

and you need oxygen to run but I thought they're not supposed to be breathing? I can overlook that kind of thing though and I think they can provide some 'scientific' explanation, but nothing explains the ripping apart of bodies with bare hands. Are there any other particular aspects of zombie films (aside from the basic concept of zombies) that stretch the fantasy too far?

Personally i find magical zombies a lot easier to just accept that the films that try and go the science route...mainly because the word "magic" is the ultimate cheat code for enormous plot holes and accuracy issues in movies.

"Why are there zombies eat my legs? Magic."

Daycent...lets get it done.

For me, i'd like to see more zombie films that take their cue from The Mist... by Frank Darabont. He did a good job of doing exactly what i want to see in The Walking Dead because he made the story about people...not about zombies.

This horrible **** happens in life and all you see is either people dying or people dealing with it. Everyone is brave and a hero except that one dude who ****s up and gets people killed.

Show me a good set up with people trapped, surrounded by death, slowly losing their minds and turning on each other and i'll enjoy it a lot more than an action zombie movie with a big shot gun finale. The one thing that is wrong with most zombie movies is how the protagonists actually behave and react to their circumstances i reckon.

ScumLord · 07-09-2011 01:20PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Exactly...the fact that the first thing the human body will shed in times of starvation is muscle would mean that pretty much from the get go the zombies would be digesting themselves, getting weaker, building up lactic acid and other waste products with no way to remove them and all other manner of biological issues from cutting themselves walking into stuff, the wounds getting infected rapidly due to no functioning immune system and bloating up like a big balloon.

I don't think that has to happen, your describing decomposition which by all accounts zombies don't do. In world war z the zombie virus kills everything bar people so that would stop bacterial decomposition which would only leave general wear and tare or weathering which would rip them apart fairly quickly as they can't repair damaged tissues.

LeeHoffmann · 07-09-2011 01:34PM

made the story about people...not about zombies.
This horrible **** happens in life and all you see is either people dying or people dealing with it. Everyone is brave and a hero except that one dude who ****s up and gets people killed.
Show me a good set up with people trapped, surrounded by death, slowly losing their minds and turning on each other and i'll enjoy it a lot more than an action zombie movie with a big shot gun finale.

hmm I get what you're saying. I quite like a bit of action but, for me, the atmosphere is what really makes it. Scenes like when the guy wakes up out of the coma in 28 days later and finds the city deserted and sees the slogan ''the end is really fu*king nigh'' written on the walls are iconic for that reason. You find yourself holding your breath. I also like when humans are confronted with normal human crises while in the midst of a zombie crisis (e.g. when the character finds his dead parents asleep in their bed after having written him a goodbye letter and killing themselves, or when the army takes people prisoner and the inevitable human rights abuses follow, or when people realise that their own allies are actually total nutcases)

Bipolar Joe · 07-09-2011 01:39PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Show me a good set up with people trapped, surrounded by death, slowly losing their minds and turning on each other and i'll enjoy it a lot more than an action zombie movie with a big shot gun finale. The one thing that is wrong with most zombie movies is how the protagonists actually behave and react to their circumstances i reckon.

I'm already writing the script :pac:

:pac:

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CrazyRabbit · 07-09-2011 01:41PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Shaun of the Dead!

And Zombieland.

Micky Dolenz · 07-09-2011 01:44PM

It did die out but came back.

Prepare for Zeds, it's only a matter of time.

Logical Fallacy · 07-09-2011 01:49PM

CrazyRabbit wrote: »

And Zombieland.

Zombieland was okay but the whole Bill Murray thing pretty much killed it for me. Shattered by suspension of disbelief like a brick through a window.

LeeHoffmann · 07-09-2011 01:56PM

yeah it became some weird mix between thriller zombie movie and piss-take zombie movie once he showed up

Eggy Baby! · 07-09-2011 02:57PM

Its the trend of the 21st century, isn't it? During the Cold War, apocalyptic fiction was very popular because of the obvious political and social climate that time contained. Now its all viruses/epidemics, which in a way reflects how we are paranoid about "super-viruses", GM foods, Bird Flu, Mad Cow disease etc., and zombies usually are caused by a virus being spread in media; well now they are, because before it was all about supernatural causes like voodoo/Kunta Kinte stuff.

Logical Fallacy · 07-09-2011 02:59PM

Eggy Baby! wrote: »

Its the trend of the 21st century, isn't it? During the Cold War, apocalyptic fiction was very popular because of the obvious political and social climate that time contained. Now its all viruses/epidemics, which in a way reflects how we are paranoid about "super-viruses", GM foods, Bird Flu, Mad Cow disease etc., and zombies usually are caused by a virus being spread in media; well now they are, because before it was all about supernatural causes like voodoo/Kunta Kinte stuff.

Exactly, 90% of the early zombie stories all featured the word Haiti a lot.

Wetai · 07-09-2011 02:59PM

Once the zombies complain, they'll stop making zombie movies. They'll just be called "Documentaries" then.

seanbmc · 07-09-2011 03:02PM

Don't see it happening any time soon to be honest.

There's zombie blockbuster movies in production at the moment and game developers are still making zombie games.

I don't think it will ever die out, which is a good thing because I loves me a zombie movie.

Eggy Baby! · 10-09-2011 08:37PM

I'm guessing zombies will go out of fashion when porn goes out of fashion...:)

Forest Master · 10-09-2011 09:14PM

Lame fad is lame.

They'll stop being fashionable when the same knobs stop laughing at Chuck Norris facts & wearing their "don't hassle The Hoff" t-shirts.

Duggy747 · 10-09-2011 09:25PM

I llove a good zombie movie but, Lordy, is the place over-saturated with them. Nobody ever brings anything new to the table with them bar a handful of things.

It always seems to be the go-to subject for film beginners.

Knight who says Meh · 10-09-2011 09:33PM

The whole Zombie thing is ridiculous. People coming back from the dead and walking about. People will believe anything these days.
Any way. Im off to mass.

LeeHoffmann · 10-09-2011 09:52PM

People will believe anything these days.

You mean....zombies...don't...exist? :eek:

stateofflux · 10-09-2011 10:15PM

i can see it lasting a while...i like to think its because of the decent output of late (walking dead, 28 weeks etc)..but maybe the popularity has nothing to do with using your brain, which would make sense :pac:

Karona · 10-09-2011 10:47PM

I don't think it will. I was at a zombie walk last night in Galway, people there would probably agree with me, there was enough of them anyhow.

4leto · 10-09-2011 10:49PM

Poor zombies I think they are misunderstood, they should be given equal rights and integrated into the wider community.

We just can't keep on blowing their brains away with shotguns.

LeeHoffmann · 10-09-2011 10:52PM

What do we want? Zombie suffrage! When do we want it? Now! :pac:

Forest Master · 10-09-2011 10:57PM

Karona wrote: »

I was at a zombie walk last night in Galway

That makes me cringe. Bunch of tossers & hipsters acting kooky over a lame fad.

af_thefragile · 10-09-2011 11:05PM

Its all about Cats now.

Especially zombie cats:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNwCojCJ3-Q

Karona · 10-09-2011 11:06PM

Forest Master wrote: »

That makes me cringe. Bunch of tossers & hipsters acting kooky over a lame fad.

Someone must not like Halloween then....

Will the zombie craze ever die out?

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