1 in 3 want Norris to run

bellylint · 06-09-2011 01:17PM

ah you mean David right? not Chuck then

Min · 06-09-2011 01:50PM

I don't think he is able to run.

Min · 06-09-2011 01:55PM

Do 1 in 3 wish they were sexually abused as a child?

This was a wish of David Norris.

nacho libre · 06-09-2011 04:12PM

**if** this poll is an accurate representation of the public view on the matter, then it reeks of hypocrisy

Chinasea · 06-09-2011 06:05PM

Think it would be a good idea if they gave the option to vote to cease this luxury item in the Áras.

Yahew · 06-09-2011 06:22PM

Min wrote: »

Do 1 in 3 wish they were sexually abused as a child?

This was a wish of David Norris.

The "child" in question was a teenager close to the Israeli age of majority, and past the age of majority in most European countries which means this would not have been an issue in most countries. Nor did anybody deny that Norris' friend was , to begin, with unaware of his lover's age, and they continued to be lovers prior to and post his incarceration. ( Norris' friend was jailed against the wishes of his then adult lover, in other words, and someone made a political point by working out when they got together and informed the police. Probably a radical zionist.).

This was a storm in a teacup - there is very little Irish sexually moral-majority curtain twitchers can get upset about these days, so where they can they get really really really upset.

Obviously the age of majority is a grey area, were that not the case different countries would not have different laws.

Yahew · 06-09-2011 06:25PM

nacho libre wrote: »

**if** this poll is an accurate representation of the public view on the matter, then it reeks of hypocrisy

why? This 30% probably always wanted Norris to win, the sturm und drang of the pitch fork wielding mobs notwithstanding.

Killer Pigeon · 06-09-2011 06:30PM

1 in 3 people can't read the facts.

mackeire · 06-09-2011 06:30PM

2 in 3 dont want him to run!

PhatPiggins · 06-09-2011 06:37PM

They should just replace all future Irish presidents with the e-voting machines we paid €51 million for. We'd essentially be getting the same thing i.e a ridicuosly expensive, pointless excercise that looks horribly dated and that we can't get rid of !!

Fukuyama · 06-09-2011 07:21PM

Min wrote: »

Do 1 in 3 wish they were sexually abused as a child?

This was a wish of David Norris.

You should go work for the Mail.

Helix · 06-09-2011 07:45PM

am i the only one who was disappointed that this wasnt about chuck norris?

dvpower · 06-09-2011 07:46PM

He wouldn't have a chance in hell of getting a nomination now, so little point in him running.

dvpower · 06-09-2011 07:47PM

mackeire wrote: »

2 in 3 dont want him to run!

Did the poll actually say that?

Pygmalion · 06-09-2011 07:56PM

Surely the point of democracy is that we go to the polls and decide whether or not the country as a whole think he'd be a good leader, not that a small group of people come up with a reason to exclude him from public consideration?

King of Kings · 06-09-2011 08:01PM

Yahew wrote: »

The "child" in question was a teenager close to the Israeli age of majority, and past the age of majority in most European countries which means this would not have been an issue in most countries.

you are off the wall. In certain society they marry off 12 year old girls - cos other cultures do it we don't have to accept it.
This magical place called europe isn't all that!

Yahew wrote: »

Nor did anybody deny that Norris' friend was , to begin, with unaware of his lover's age, and they continued to be lover's prior to and post his incarceration. ( Norris' friend was jailed against the wishes of his then adult lover, in other words, and someone made a political point by working out when they got together and informed the police. Probably a radical zionist.).

that's irrelevant , norris#s pal was 40 and the other party 15 - he should have known something was amiss.
The issue is not norris' friend but norris writing letters on behalf of his friend trying to weasal him out of a jail term.
On a second note - it was on state headed paper. FFS.

Yahew wrote: »

This was a storm in a teacup - there is very little Irish sexually moral-majority curtain twitchers can get upset about these days, so where they can they get really really really upset.

Get the boat - we cannot lambast the church for failing to protect children without holding norris to the same standard.
The church was wrong and Norris was wrong.
We cannot pay lip service child endangement cos we hate the church but ignore it when our liberal hero is the target.

Yahew wrote: »

Obviously the age of majority is a grey area, were that not the case different countries would not have different laws.

As I said previously his friend was 40 messing with a 15 year old - there is no grey area there.
Nothing could be more black and white.

I wanted norris to run originally - now I think he is a fraud for writing letter on behalf of a friend.
If an FF member did it we'd all scream blue murder.

Those 1 in 3 are clowns.

Helix · 06-09-2011 08:02PM

dvpower wrote: »

Did the poll actually say that?

it did if the question was: do you want david norris to run for president? yes/no

dvpower · 06-09-2011 08:22PM

Helix wrote: »

it did if the question was: do you want david norris to run for president? yes/no

What about the 21pc of Don't Knows?

Helix · 06-09-2011 08:23PM

dvpower wrote: »

What about the 21pc of Don't Knows?

they technically didnt answer the question

Happyman42 · 06-09-2011 08:28PM

Pygmalion wrote: »

Surely the point of democracy is that we go to the polls and decide whether or not the country as a whole think he'd be a good leader, not that a small group of people come up with a reason to exclude him from public consideration?

So on the basis of a 'poll' and a lot of internet sulking and warmongering we should just add any name to the ballot?
He DIDN'T make it through the nomination process...HE resigned his bid because HE agreed that what HE did was wrong. No smear, no campaign against him, HE wrote the letter not some journalist or assassin. It was rightly published by a whistleblower who believed it was important that we knew about it( he was singing the praises of whistle-blowers in the Senate recently and insisting on protection for them so any complaining or huffing is extremely two faced.)

Yahew · 06-09-2011 08:48PM

King of Kings wrote: »

you are off the wall. In certain society they marry off 12 year old girls - cos other cultures do it we don't have to accept it.
This magical place called europe isn't all that!

If you think most of Europe are facilitating " paedophilia" then you should protest the European Union and the individual embassies of the countries where the age of majority is 15 and younger, unlike Holy post-Catholic Ireland.

that's irrelevant , norris#s pal was 40 and the other party 15 - he should have known something was amiss.

But he didnt know the age.

The issue is not norris' friend but norris writing letters on behalf of his friend trying to weasal him out of a jail term.
On a second note - it was on state headed paper. FFS.

Norris may well have thought that nearly 16 is not that big a deal.

Get the boat - we cannot lambast the church for failing to protect children without holding norris to the same standard.
The church was wrong and Norris was wrong.
We cannot pay lip service child endangement cos we hate the church but ignore it when our liberal hero is the target.

I personally think that the Church gets a hard time, in some of the claims. The Ryan and Murphy reports did not follow any kind of due process, for instance, it just reported what victims said. Hardly normal procedure ( though I have no reason to assume anybody lied, of course). However, by and large the Church was harming younger children non-concensually, and covering it up. IT wasnt one affair with a near-adult.

As I said previously his friend was 40 messing with a 15 year old - there is no grey area there.

If there was no grey area all countries would have the same age of majority.

Nothing could be more black and white.

Nothing could more be in shades of grey than a teenager close to the age of majority.

I wanted norris to run originally - now I think he is a fraud for writing letter on behalf of a friend.

You dont understand fraud. Writing a letter on behalf of a friend is not the definition. You may need a dictionary.

If an FF member did it we'd all scream blue murder.

Those 1 in 3 are clowns.

They are less hysterical than the mob, for sure. But thats not the definition of Clown. so you do need a dictionary.

dvpower · 06-09-2011 08:50PM

Helix wrote: »

they technically didnt answer the question

Only 46pc are against Norris running, not 2/3rds.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/michael-d-leads-but-13-want-david-norris-for-president-2866201.html

Liam Byrne · 06-09-2011 08:52PM

Pygmalion wrote: »

Surely the point of democracy is that we go to the polls and decide whether or not the country as a whole think he'd be a good leader, not that a small group of people come up with a reason to exclude him from public consideration?

"A small group of people came up with a reason" ???? :eek:

He gave a whole country a damn good reason!

Liam Byrne · 06-09-2011 08:53PM

Yahew wrote: »

Obviously the age of majority is a grey area, were that not the case different countries would not have different laws.

What does the age of the two-thirds have to do with anything ?

dvpower · 06-09-2011 08:56PM

Liam Byrne wrote: »

What does the age of the two-thirds have to do with anything ?

What fcuking two thirds?????

barneystinson · 06-09-2011 09:03PM

Liam Byrne wrote: »

What does the age of the two-thirds have to do with anything ?

Try to keep up....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_majority

MungBean · 06-09-2011 09:05PM

Sick of this poll bullshít.

Irish people hate tomatoes !!!

A poll carried out by me involving me had shown that 100% of Irish people hate tomatoes.

Another poll carried out by me in my own house shows that 3 out of 5 people living in Ireland are men and every fifth person is a budgy.

Turns my stomach every time I see this bullshít misleading crap passed off as evidence of anything other than polls not being representative of anything other than the handful of people who were asked.

Liam Byrne · 06-09-2011 09:12PM

barneystinson wrote: »

Try to keep up....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_majority

Cheers - had genuinely never heard of it being called that before.

Killer Pigeon · 06-09-2011 11:04PM

Domo230 wrote: »

Thought you meant this guy

http://chucknorri.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/Chuck-Norris-1.jpg

http://joyfulpapist.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/jesus-facepalm.jpg?w=500&h=501

Min · 06-09-2011 11:59PM

Yahew wrote: »

The "child" in question was a teenager close to the Israeli age of majority, and past the age of majority in most European countries which means this would not have been an issue in most countries. Nor did anybody deny that Norris' friend was , to begin, with unaware of his lover's age, and they continued to be lovers prior to and post his incarceration. ( Norris' friend was jailed against the wishes of his then adult lover, in other words, and someone made a political point by working out when they got together and informed the police. Probably a radical zionist.).

This was a storm in a teacup - there is very little Irish sexually moral-majority curtain twitchers can get upset about these days, so where they can they get really really really upset.

Obviously the age of majority is a grey area, were that not the case different countries would not have different laws.

No, David Norris said in the past he wished he was abused as a child.

1 in 3 want Norris to run

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