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Carbon Footprint - Do you care?

  • 05-09-2011 09:14PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭


    After reading about buying food with a CO2 footprint in the buy Irish thread I have to ask, who here really cares about it? Personally I recycle what I can and try and conserve electricity but also fly transatlantic four times a year and drive regularly so I probably create more than I save. Frankly I dont really give a rats ass about it anyway, CO2 is always going to be produced and reduced in nature and I think that the eco crowd make too big a deal about.

    What do the rest of you think?

    TLDR; Do you care about cows farts, exhaust fumes, all that good stuff?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,967 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    First there was the ozone layer and that that issue seemed to disappear
    Then there was global warming and that seems to be over, not in the media much anymore
    Now it's climate change
    Give it five years and we'll have a new buzzword

    No, I don't care, it's hype


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,172 ✭✭✭Ghost Buster


    MrEko wrote: »
    After reading about buying food with a CO2 footprint in the buy Irish thread I have to ask, who here really cares about it? Personally I recycle what I can and try and conserve electricity but also fly transatlantic four times a year and drive regularly so I probably create more than I save. Frankly I dont really give a rats ass about it anyway, CO2 is always going to be produced and reduced in nature and I think that the eco crowd make too big a deal about.

    What do the rest of you think?

    TLDR; Do you care about cows farts, exhaust fumes, all that good stuff?
    GLOBAL WARMING IS DUE TO THE DECREASE IN PIRATES.
    FACT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,627 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    no


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,479 ✭✭✭Notorious97


    Nah i recycle to an extent, put whatever into the green bin etc, but its nothing i will lose sleep over.

    Country is fuc*ed, more important things to be worrying about!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I'd like to stick my carbon footprint up John Gormley's hole.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭Ally Dick


    In a recession, it's hard to care


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭noxqs


    Yes I care - but what's the point. People who scream the loudest about this like Greenpeace are against nuclear power. They will stop at nothing short of a power plant powered by unicorn farts and good thoughts.

    We have the technology right now to solve most issues but theres too much 'Not in my backyard'.

    Ireland is fairly windy. Where is all the windmills? Denmark gets about 30% of their energy from it and I dare say Ireland might one-up them in the wind department.

    Food production etc is nothing compared to energy generation and if energy was generated from wind/nuclear the overall CO2 footprint of that would also drop dramatically. We could also power cars with electricity from that source (current electric cars is a joke, electricity is not generated from non-fossil atm).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    1) My amount of CO2 is insignificant in the grand scheme of things
    2) I think anthropogenic climate change is a load of kack

    I do like saving money and energy though, so i endeavour to make things low cost and efficient in that regard


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,571 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    a load of bs created to make money of people, but all these world threatening disasters are all the same


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    noxqs wrote: »
    Ireland is fairly windy. Where is all the windmills? Denmark gets about 30% of their energy from it and I dare say Ireland might one-up them in the wind department.

    You need backup power for when it's not windy - the only solution is to have this online or to be interconnected into a europe-wide grid, where we can (theoretically at least anyway) sell wind power to the UK and others when it's windy and buy nuclear power from them when its not.

    This would be inordinately expensive.

    Plus wind turbines are expensive and **** and are only commercially viable because they are subsidised


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,626 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    mikemac wrote: »
    First there was the ozone layer and that that issue seemed to disappear
    Then there was global warming and that seems to be over, not in the media much anymore
    Now it's climate change
    Give it five years and we'll have a new buzzword

    No, I don't care, it's hype
    .
    mikemac wrote: »
    We have a place on boards for the loons OP

    Conspiracy Theories forum


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,816 ✭✭✭✭galwayrush


    The sun will kill us all when it decides to go supernova.
    Anyways, we've had many periods of global warming and cooling since the earth was formed, so since there is nothing i can do about the earth's natural cycles, i'm not going to waste time worrying about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,571 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    Sky King wrote: »
    You need backup power for when it's not windy - the only solution is to have this online or to be interconnected into a europe-wide grid, where we can (theoretically at least anyway) sell wind power to the UK and others when it's windy and buy nuclear power from them when its not.

    This would be inordinately expensive.

    Plus wind turbines are expensive and **** and are only commercially viable because they are subsidised

    our island isnt big enough for wind turbines, yet we have a ton of potential for renewable energy, tidal is an always on source of energy that we are perfectly situated to take advantage of yet we never hear of it, off shore windmills would also be great off the west coast of ireland.

    Renewable's are very important to our future but not because of co2 emmisions or ozone problems just simply that the oil and gas are nearly gone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭noxqs


    Danish windpower, according to the wikipedia article:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_power_in_Denmark

    Was subsidized in the early yeards - but is currently 0. Yet installed capacity has grown yearly since 1979. Maybe because of dramatic improvements in windmill design allowing better generation ?

    Anyways - like I said. We have the technology but too many naysayers. What about nuclear then ? Breeder reactors, thorium reactors and graphite sphere reactors are pretty damn safe.

    Edit: The island is not big enough for windpower? whiskey tango foxtrot - its larger than denmark with less people and is surrounded by water where offshore windparks is perfect. Also we don't need 100% renewables coverage - yet. Theres tons of options to switch in the next 50 years gradually. Solar, tidal, wind, nuclear, and pray for fusion to happen someday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 84 ✭✭MrEko


    galwayrush wrote: »
    The sun will kill us all when it decides to go supernova.
    Anyways, we've had many periods of global warming and cooling since the earth was formed, so since there is nothing i can do about the earth's natural cycles, i'm not going to waste time worrying about it.

    Thats my line of thinking. Sure, we are overdue an ice age by about 20000 years, according to a geography lecturer back in college. Live fast and die at a reasonable age in bed with a young one, as they say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,571 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    there is plenty of stuff out there that could destroy the planet alot quicker than global warming its just no one can make money off them, asteroids for one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,245 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Kinda - but it's not so much about "climate change", really. Call it a dress rehearsal for the years after the oil gets too expensive.

    Government resting upon the will and universal suffrage of the people has no anchorage except in the people's intelligence.

    — Grover Cleveland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Sky King


    Physics professor Philip Walton from NUI Galway is always going on about how nuclear power is really the only way forward, he's often interviewed on the radio. Interesting guy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    the only reason i use my recyclin bin is because its free , aside from that , fcuk it , ill be dead before anything major happens so ill continue driving inefficient cars, buying food with lots of miles on it and using haloween as an excuse to burn my rubbish


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 412 ✭✭noxqs


    I am 110% for Nuclear power. There has been only two level 7 nuclear disasters in history; Chernobyl and fukushima. Both very old plants - fukushima core 1 from 1976 and Chernobyl from 1977. Both old generation plants which is no where near the modern reactor designs.

    Thorium/Breeder and Pebble bed reactors are generation 4 reactor cores which - albeit never 100% safe - has built in designs which will stop run-away reactions as a feature of the fuel cycle itself. Which is pretty novel.

    It can be done safely. Chernobyl was a human error overriding the security of the reactor willingly. And fukushima was Murphy's law - if a 9.5 earthquake and tsunami can happen, it will. And it wasn't designed for it fully (but almost).

    But can you imagine anyone in Ireland accepting a nuclear power plant anywhere near 'their children oh my god my radiactive children'.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭teol


    No, I don't care about my carbon footprint. Frankly, I don't believe in global cooling, global warming, climate change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 870 ✭✭✭Lemsiper


    I have no feet so I'm grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,547 ✭✭✭✭Poor Uncle Tom


    noxqs wrote: »
    I am 110% for Nuclear power.
    There's something very unsettling in that statement alone.

    Anyway, nucluar, it's pronounced nucluar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Solnskaya


    i want to use my carbon footprint to drive starbelgrades footprint further up gormleys hole. Just in case the dopey green fecker didn't notice the first one. I would also like to buy some carbon credits to create another footprint to drive up under duncan stewarts ball bag.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭teol


    noxqs wrote: »
    But can you imagine anyone in Ireland accepting a nuclear power plant anywhere near 'their children oh my god my radiactive children'.

    We don't have to build nuclear plants here in Ireland. The interconnectors will allow us to use Britain's. And besides, gas will be here for a long time to come. The amount of gas being discovered is enormous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭Darkginger


    Winter is coming.

    Yeah, tbh, I do care about our impact on the planet - but, having no children, I have no personal investment in our collective future. The majority of the human race are either too preoccupied with survival on a day to day basis, or preoccupied with the lives of 'celebrities' ditto, or the state of their investments ditto, that I prefer to opt out of the entire thing and spend my entire life in online MMORPGs.

    Caring is an exercise in frustration.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭uncle_sam_ie


    No, because "carbon footprint" is a scam to suck more money out of us. I'm so glad the greens are gone.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,940 ✭✭✭4leto


    No its pointless, I am to minuscule and I am aware the Earth has to many people to watered and fed, that population needs more energy not less.

    Remember we eat and drink fossil fuel, fossil fuel is modern intensive farming.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 499 ✭✭Green Mile


    I'm not an eco-freak or anything but I hate waste. My global footprint is about a .03 on a scale from zero to ten.

    It really bugs me that people don't care.

    Temperatures dogo up and down over time only by a small amount. At the moment it is fluctuating wildly across the world which is why people care. Take a look at why there is a famine in Somalia.

    Again, it bugs me if people don't care. It's not fair that I have to watch what I throw away or have to walk or cycle rather than drive while others speed around in there Beemers.

    ... go on,,, lets hear it??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,718 ✭✭✭Taco Corp


    I don't think at all about my carbon footprint really. But at the same time I still try and recycle as much as I can. So much of the stuff that we throw out day to day could be reused. It makes sense to recycle so that's why I do it.


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