Hunky Dory girls are back

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 05-09-2011 02:58PM

I think these ads are a credit to Hunky Dory because they promote the idea that regular sporting activity will help you look good and healthy. Or something

Icyseanfitz · 05-09-2011 02:58PM

My name is URL wrote: »

Couldn't really care less about the ads.. but what sort of mindless gobshite would buy crisps just because the ad contains boobs?

if crisps contained boobs id be a fat fecker

Blazer · 05-09-2011 02:58PM

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

Because this thread was started by a woman and most of the posters have been women....hmmm

looks at crotch "whew...it's still there"

Yakult · 05-09-2011 02:59PM

Meh, that ad is no more revealing than most music videos put out by "pop star's".
Wonder do the people who complain about these ad's complain about those music videos too and how they are degrading women. :rolleyes:

FatherLen · 05-09-2011 02:59PM

Alopex wrote: »

Getting a few handy quid in the process objectifying women. These campaigns diminish the intellectual value of women in society's eyes

this is such bs.
i have never thought to myself "hmmm woman must be thick to model in sexy poses." this doesn't do jack shit other than sell crisps.

The King of Moo · 05-09-2011 03:00PM

Alopex wrote: »

Getting a few handy quid in the process objectifying women. These campaigns diminish the intellectual value of women in society's eyes

I wouldn't go so far. I think most men have the ability to compartmentalise and to ogle these women, yet also know that that's not what all women are like and not all women should be treated as sex objects.

I think you might be putting the cart before the horse a bit as well.
Ads like this exist because some men do objectify women. I don't think they cause men who might not otherwise do so to see women as sex objects.

Also, the women are entitled to get paid for what they did, and I don't think they'd care if people thought they were whores.

opinion guy · 05-09-2011 03:01PM

Alopex wrote: »

the whores who model for these ads should be ashamed of themselves

opinion guy wrote: »

OK now here is some actual sexism
Whats your problem ? Why are you calling these women whores ??? Why should they be ashamed ?

See folks - its like what I said - people who have issues with these kidns of ads have self esteem issues

FYI Alopex - a tip - stop referring to pretty girls as whores just because they are pretty and aware they are pretty and your chances might improve

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 05-09-2011 03:01PM

Alopex wrote: »

Getting a few handy quid in the process objectifying women. These campaigns diminish the intellectual value of women in society's eyes

Nonsense. A woman can look amazing and also be of high inteligence, they aren't mutually exlusive and it's unfair to assume that someone of of little intellectual worth because they may choose to use their physical assetts for income

Super-Rush · 05-09-2011 03:06PM

opinion guy wrote: »

See folks - its like what I said - people who have issues with these kidns of ads have self esteem issues

FYI Alopex - a tip - stop referring to pretty girls as whores just because they are pretty and aware they are pretty and your chances might improve

Don't quote peoples posts from other forums or threads again or you will be banned.

Rabidlamb · 05-09-2011 03:07PM

Sadly this is the only chance any of us men will get to seeing top totty of this quality.
If only there was an integrated web of computers where one could look at women in various stages of undress performing lewd sexual acts.
If you got upset by these ads imagine how annoyed you'd be then.

iDigian · 05-09-2011 03:08PM

Zayne Rapid Staffer wrote: »

Nonsense. A woman can look amazing and also be of high inteligence, they aren't mutually exlusive and it's unfair to assume that someone of of little intellectual worth because they may choose to use their physical assetts for income

I understand a certain portion of this. But it's all a matter of personal opinion and just because your opinion is that a woman can look amazing and be intelligent (which is true I my opinion) it may not be true in some elses opinion.

opinion guy · 05-09-2011 03:10PM

super-rush wrote: »

Don't quote peoples posts from other forums or threads again or you will be banned.

Fair enough. Didn't realise that was against the rules

ibarelycare · 05-09-2011 03:12PM

iDigian wrote: »

I understand a certain portion of this. But it's all a matter of personal opinion and just because your opinion is that a woman can look amazing and be intelligent (which is true I my opinion) it may not be true in some elses opinion.

Saying "women can't be both beautiful and intelligent" isn't an opinion. It's a blatantly wrong statement.

Anyway, I got my salt & vinegar Hunky Dorys at lunch after seeing the 2-page spread in the Metro Herald!

iDigian · 05-09-2011 03:18PM

ibarelycare wrote: »

Saying "women can't be both beautiful and intelligent" isn't an opinion. It's a blatantly wrong statement.

Anyway, I got my salt & vinegar Hunky Dorys at lunch after seeing the 2-page spread in the Metro Herald!

Actually it's not that clearcut, if I was the type of person who formed an opinion on someone based on what they've achieved intellectually then my opinion might be that someone posing for pictures like this isn't using your intellect. ie anyone can do it, being beautiful is pure fluke, it's not an achievement.

LeeHoffmann · 05-09-2011 03:19PM

See go to somewhere like Germany. These images everywhere. Nobody bats an eyelid. They all just get on with things. They also are very unashamed of their own bodies. Its pretty normal in parks/rivers etc in German towns and cities to see folks sunbathing nude - be the scorching hot young things or fat grannies/grandas. Nobody cares. Its just not an issue.
Frankly, they are just alot more grown up about nudity and body image over there

There's a lot more nudity in Germany - in saunas etc - and they have a more relaxed attitude to nudity and sex than we have (those night-time ads for sexlines are dime a dozen and far mor graphic than what we might see here). But it's not - I repeat NOT- 'normal in German parks towns and cities to see people sunbathing nude'! What are you on about? I hate to dispel your little fantasy but German towns and cities aren't full of naked sunbathers (not unless they're in their own gardens or bath-houses etc!) :pac::pac::pac:

Nudity in Germany is not as taboo as it is here - but there are designated places for that. :rolleyes:

ibarelycare · 05-09-2011 03:20PM

iDigian wrote: »

Actually it's not that clearcut, if I was the type of person who formed an opinion on someone based on what they've achieved intellectually then my opinion might be that someone posing for pictures like this isn't using your intellect. ie anyone can do it, being beautiful is pure fluke, it's not an achievement.

How do you know they haven't achieved incredible things academically, as well as being models?

orourkeda · 05-09-2011 03:20PM

I like their bits

Oh wait.................

flutterflye · 05-09-2011 03:20PM

LeeHoffmann wrote: »

There's a lot more nudity in Germany - in saunas etc - and they have a more relaxed attitude to nudity and sex than we have (those night-time ads for sexlines are dime a dozen and far mor graphic than what we might see here). But it's not - I repeat NOT- normal in German parks towns and cities to see people sunbathing nude! What are you on about? I hate to dispel your little fantasy but German towns and cities aren't full of naked sunbathers (not unless they're in their own gardens or bath-houses etc!) :pac::pac::pac:

Nudity in Germany is not as taboo as it is here - but there are designated places for that. :rolleyes:

There is a massive difference in nudity, and sexual objectification though.

The King of Moo · 05-09-2011 03:21PM

iDigian wrote: »

Actually it's not that clearcut, if I was the type of person who formed an opinion on someone based on what they've achieved intellectually then my opinion might be that someone posing for pictures like this isn't using your intellect. ie anyone can do it, being beautiful is pure fluke, it's not an achievement.

But just because they're not using their intelligence in their job doesn't mean that they're not intelligent. You could be very intelligent yet do a job that requires you not to use much of your brain.

In fact, I'd say it's a pretty smart move to accept lots of money just for standing around for a while in revealing clothes!

opinion guy · 05-09-2011 03:21PM

LeeHoffmann wrote: »

There's a lot more nudity in Germany - in saunas etc - and they have a more relaxed attitude to nudity and sex than we have (those night-time ads for sexlines are dime a dozen and far mor graphic than what we might see here). But it's not - I repeat NOT- normal in German parks towns and cities to see people sunbathing nude! What are you on about? I hate to dispel your little fantasy but German towns and cities aren't full of naked sunbathers (not unless they're in their own gardens or bath-houses etc!) :pac::pac::pac:

Nudity in Germany is not as taboo as it is here - but there are designated places for that. :rolleyes:

In the German city I lived it was quite normal to see - granted though there may be regional variations in attitude

LeeHoffmann · 05-09-2011 03:22PM

There is a massive difference in nudity, and sexual objectification though.

Please elaborate

In the German city I lived it was quite normal to see

Where was that? In the cities I lived in, I never saw anything of the sort

KeithM89_old · 05-09-2011 03:23PM

iDigian wrote: »

Actually it's not that clearcut, if I was the type of person who formed an opinion on someone based on what they've achieved intellectually then my opinion might be that someone posing for pictures like this isn't using your intellect. ie anyone can do it, being beautiful is pure fluke, it's not an achievement.

Real smooth using your second account straight after you got banned.
Banned again

opinion guy · 05-09-2011 03:24PM

LeeHoffmann wrote: »

Please elaborate

Where was that? In the cities I lived in, I never saw anything of the sort

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LeeHoffmann · 05-09-2011 03:25PM

When did you live there? I lived there myself and the only time I ever saw anyone nudey was in a sauna

Alopex · 05-09-2011 03:26PM

opinion guy wrote: »

See folks - its like what I said - people who have issues with these kidns of ads have self esteem issues

FYI Alopex - a tip - stop referring to pretty girls as whores just because they are pretty and aware they are pretty and your chances might improve

Sorry your little underhand dig doesn't work. I am not a woman.

Zayne Rapid Staffer wrote: »

Nonsense. A woman can look amazing and also be of high inteligence, they aren't mutually exlusive and it's unfair to assume that someone of of little intellectual worth because they may choose to use their physical assetts for income

Strange the ones with looks and intellect generally use their intellect to get by.

I am not saying they are mutually exclusive. I am saying the video on that site portrays women as air-heads and being an air-head isn't a problem when you look good. These women knew that when taking part but thought the money was worth it

Monty Burnz · 05-09-2011 03:28PM

LeeHoffmann wrote: »

When did you live there? I lived there myself and the only time I ever saw anyone nudey was in a sauna

I saw it in parks in Stuttgart too. Not widespread, but seemingly not unusual enough to warrant any attention from passers by.

Das Kitty · 05-09-2011 03:29PM

opinion guy wrote: »

Munich. Regular to see by the banks of the Isar and in the Englischer garden

LeeHoffmann wrote: »

When did you live there? I lived there myself and the only time I ever saw anyone nudey was in a sauna

I was there on my holidays in 1995. First time I saw cock.

True story.

epgc3fyqirnbsx · 05-09-2011 03:29PM

Alopex wrote: »

Sorry your little underhand dig doesn't work. I am not a woman.

Strange the ones with looks and intellect generally use their intellect to get by.

I am not saying they are mutually exclusive. I am saying the video on that site portrays women as air-heads and being an air-head isn't a problem when you look good. These women knew that when taking part but thought the money was worth it

Well if you see them as looking like air heads that's fair enough, a difference of opinon I suppose, others might see differently
But even if society does view each of those girls as airheads then so what? They aren't going to equate a whole gender as being airheads just by association (although no doubt a minority will but they would have issues with the whole gender regardless of these ads)

opinion guy · 05-09-2011 03:30PM

Alopex wrote: »

Sorry your little underhand dig doesn't work. I am not a woman.

So what you think an underhanded dig would work if you were a woman ? you are somehow superior is that it ?

Strange the ones with looks and intellect generally use their intellect to get by.

I am not saying they are mutually exclusive. I am saying the video on that site portrays women as air-heads and being an air-head isn't a problem when you look good. These women knew that when taking part but thought the money was worth it

I don't think they look like airheads. I think they are doing a good job of acting the tongue in cheek serious football but not role. I couldn't do that. I think that you perceive them to be airheads because of your own prejudices. For all you know they might be studying theoretical physics.
In case you didn't konw there is a recession. Jobs hard to come buy. why not use their looks if people are willing to pay. Money can be exchanged for good and services you know. People need it

flutterflye · 05-09-2011 03:32PM

LeeHoffmann wrote: »

Please elaborate

Sorry, didn't mean to quote you there at all!
Was just saying that generally.

Nudity is natural - nothing wrong there at all.
Nudity in ads for showers makes sense - you're supposed to be naked in showers.
Nudity in films/plays is art - the portrayal of a story/character/message.

The same goes for sex.

But... when nudity/sex is used out of context to sell irrelevant things, it's just seedy to me.
When it is everywhere all the time, it adds to social pressures for women to be sexy above all else, and it adds to sexual objectification in society.
While one little ad does not do this, it does desensitize people the more it happens.
Pushing norms and boundaries is only a good thing if it promotes a healthy societal outcome, which I do not believe that this does.

Hunky Dory girls are back

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