Hunky Dory girls are back

Galtee · 05-09-2011 01:30PM

flutterflye wrote: »

And I assure you, I'm neither fat, or ugly.

But can you drive?

Rabidlamb · 05-09-2011 01:31PM

Surely the feminist groups won't bite again, the must have copped on that they're the ones giving this whole thing oxygen.

The King of Moo · 05-09-2011 01:33PM

opinion guy wrote: »

If you were a woman it would annoy you ???

Why ??? Why does this ad annoy people more than any other add with scantily clad women ?

I don't get the fuss.

Also those annoyed by the Hunky Dory's add don't ever go to Germany - your minds will implode when you see the ads they have over there

Not just this ad campaign but any that was so blatantly sexist.

But I'd imagine if I were a woman I probably wouldn't be a fan of ads that get cheap thrills out of half-naked men, or the Boots ads where everyone looks like a moron.

I hate any ad campaign that so cheaply and blatantly tries to sell something with sex, regardless of whether it's aimed at men or women and I like to think I'd feel the same if I were a woman. It just assumes people are idiots who'll buy their product because of a glimpse of a few (well, two, usually, or at least an even number) boobs or abs.

I don't think I'd them offensive as such, just ridiculous.

Galtee · 05-09-2011 01:37PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

Not just this ad campaign but any that was so blatantly sexist.

But I'd imagine if I were a woman I probably wouldn't be a fan of ads that get cheap thrills out of half-naked men, or the Boots ads where everyone looks like a moron.

I hate any ad campaign that so cheaply and blatantly tries to sell something with sex, regardless of whether it's aimed at men or women and I like to think I'd feel the same if I were a woman. It just assumes people are idiots who'll buy their product because of a glimpse of a few (well, two, usually, or at least an even number) boobs or abs.

I don't think I'd them offensive as such, just ridiculous.

What's the difference between selling something with sex and selling something with an ad that pulls on the heart strings or has comedic value? The fundamental goal is the same, to sell their product, they're just using different marketing campaigns but with same premise.

Eve_Dublin · 05-09-2011 01:39PM

Rabidlamb wrote: »

Surely the feminist groups won't bite again, the must have copped on that they're the ones giving this whole thing oxygen.

Because this thread was started by a woman and most of the posters have been women....hmmm

Can you actually show me physical evidence of these feminist groups complaining or are you just talking out of your hole?

Talk about posters ruining the craic and bringing the buzz down EVERY SINGLE TIME. BOOOOOOOORING!!

flutterflye · 05-09-2011 01:40PM

Galtee wrote: »

But can you drive?

Eh yeah.... wtf?!

Galtee · 05-09-2011 01:41PM

Eve_Dublin wrote: »

Because this thread was started by a woman and most of the posters have been women....hmmm

Can you actually show me physical evidence of these feminist groups complaining or are you just talking out of your hole?

Talk about posters ruining the craic and bringing the buzz down EVERY SINGLE TIME. BOOOOOOOORING!!

relax, everything's hunky

The King of Moo · 05-09-2011 01:41PM

Galtee wrote: »

What's the difference between selling something with sex and selling something with an ad that pulls on the heart strings or has comedic value? The fundamental goal is the same, to sell their product, they're just using different marketing campaigns but with same premise.

That's a good point, and I'd dislike all ads like those you mention as well.

In fact, I think I literally hate all ads.

But for me, there is something I hate more about ads trying to be sexy.
I don't know, maybe it's because they think they're being daring when it's been done millions of times before, or in cases like this where they're deliberately courting controversy to be "edgy" even if it comes across like an ad campaign that would've been mildly controversial in Britain in the early 90s and Hunky Dorys' ad agency have only copped onto it now.

Maybe because it's trying to create a gender divide and be confrontational.
I can't quite put my finger on it (phwoar!) but it just annoys me a bit more than other manipulative forms of advertising.

o1s1n · 05-09-2011 01:42PM

Monty Burnz wrote: »

Nonsense. The number of ads where men are fools/sex objects/the butt of the joke dwarfs the number of ads where women are portrayed in that way. The fact that you seem to think there was a single sexist Diet Coke ad 20 years back sort of discredits your views on current advertising trends tbh (although Diet Coke seem to have adopted a different strategy in the last couple of years).

I completely agree with you regarding the trend in advertising where men are fools/the butt of jokes and don't like it at all.

That's not what I was talking about though. It was aimed at the sexuality of women being used to sell to men. It in no way compares to the number of adverts like that geared towards women.

In fact, most of the adverts I see of men in a state of undress are aimed at guys in a 'YOU CAN BE LIKE DAVID BECKHAM TOO!' way.

Unless of course there are an arse load of such adverts (other than the diet coke/malteser ones) that I've somehow missed?

Duggy747 · 05-09-2011 01:42PM

Latest Hunky Dory Advert just doesn't have that same "Oomph" sex appeal. :pac:

smash · 05-09-2011 01:45PM

Just saw it in the paper there, double page spread. Great marketing!

Galtee · 05-09-2011 01:45PM

flutterflye wrote: »

Eh yeah.... wtf?!

Can you actually really drive properly though or are you referring to the stereotypically female driving mentality where you're doing well if you have 5 or less crashes per year? (You go girl)

opinion guy · 05-09-2011 01:45PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

Not just this ad campaign but any that was so blatantly sexist.

But I'd imagine if I were a woman I probably wouldn't be a fan of ads that get cheap thrills out of half-naked men, or the Boots ads where everyone looks like a moron.

I hate any ad campaign that so cheaply and blatantly tries to sell something with sex, regardless of whether it's aimed at men or women and I like to think I'd feel the same if I were a woman. It just assumes people are idiots who'll buy their product because of a glimpse of a few (well, two, usually, or at least an even number) boobs or abs.

I don't think I'd them offensive as such, just ridiculous.

Its no more sexist than a bunch of other ads.

Diet Coke break anyone ?

Galtee · 05-09-2011 01:48PM

The King of Moo wrote: »

That's a good point, and I'd dislike all ads like those you mention as well.

In fact, I think I literally hate all ads.

But for me, there is something I hate more about ads trying to be sexy.
I don't know, maybe it's because they think they're being daring when it's been done millions of times before, or in cases like this where they're deliberately courting controversy to be "edgy" even if it comes across like an ad campaign that would've been mildly controversial in Britain in the early 90s and Hunky Dorys' ad agency have only copped onto it now.

Maybe because it's trying to create a gender divide and be confrontational.
I can't quite put my finger on it (phwoar!) but it just annoys me a bit more than other manipulative forms of advertising.

I know exactly what you mean but I think it's just a case of terrible sales needing a boost in this instance, it may well be an act of desperation rather than a clever 'get everyone talking about it' and we'll become a household brand and sell more product type of ad.

Bring back Eva. Now there's an ad campaign.

FatherLen · 05-09-2011 01:48PM

Galtee wrote: »

Can you actually really drive properly though or are you referring to the stereotypically female driving mentality where you're doing well if you have 5 or less crashes per year? (You go girl)

you really are not doing any good with comments like this.

Professey Chin · 05-09-2011 01:52PM

Theres now a packet of Hunky Dory crisps on my desk.
I dont know where they came from or even if I want them, but if someone tries to take them ill raise hell! :mad:

The King of Moo · 05-09-2011 01:53PM

opinion guy wrote: »

Its no more sexist than a bunch of other ads.

Diet Coke break anyone ?

Oh, I hate that too, and I also hate the new Diet Coke ads withs those ridiculous marionette harpies! If the man wants to sell big bags then let him! Don't destroy his stock! I'm going to find myself on my knees with a scissors feverishly trying to cut their strings hours after the ad's finished soon.

But I hate any ad that not only tries to use sex in a very crude and unimaginative way, but also ones that try to reinforce ridiculously outdated gender stereotypes.

Women all love going out and dancing to Kim Wilde, then coming home for a fade of bread and butter!

The men in their lives are hapless simpletons who think you have to take Evening Primrose Oil in the evening!

Women are only interested in shoes and bags and gossip!

Men would much prefer to watch football and drink beer than listen to a woman because women are stupid and boring!

That's the kind of crap I see in ads all the times and I hate it as it's reductive, divisive nonsense.

flutterflye · 05-09-2011 01:53PM

Galtee wrote: »

Can you actually really drive properly though or are you referring to the stereotypically female driving mentality where you're doing well if you have 5 or less crashes per year? (You go girl)

I drive like a man.
So no, not properly.

spider guardian · 05-09-2011 01:54PM

They've got ye all talking about the ads... again. Subconsciously ye all want a bag of salty, vinegar-y, crispy, delicious hunky dorys. Marketing job done. Somehow I doubt the nice young ladies in the ads eat many bags of hunky dorys but that's beside the point.

Was it Frisps who started off this terrible practice of having hot women advertise fattening snacks? I'm thinking about the 'Would you kick her out of the bed for eating Frisps' type campaign.

The King of Moo · 05-09-2011 01:56PM

Galtee wrote: »

I know exactly what you mean but I think it's just a case of terrible sales needing a boost in this instance, it may well be an act of desperation rather than a clever 'get everyone talking about it' and we'll become a household brand and sell more product type of ad.

Bring back Eva. Now there's an ad campaign.

That's true, it does whiff of desperation with them dipping into this well (matron!) for a second time, and basically cutting and pasting the rugby ads.

Galtee · 05-09-2011 01:57PM

flutterflye wrote: »

I drive like a man.
So no, not properly.

I'll bet you do.

flutterflye · 05-09-2011 01:58PM

Galtee wrote: »

I'll bet you do

Okay...... :rolleyes:

Galtee · 05-09-2011 01:59PM

FatherLen wrote: »

you really are not doing any good with comments like this.

Sorry, I didn't realise we were here to do good father. I'll try harder the next time.

o1s1n · 05-09-2011 01:59PM

opinion guy wrote: »

Its no more sexist than a bunch of other ads.

Diet Coke break anyone ?

Can you think of another ad with a product for women objectifying men other than that and the recent Maltesers one?

Feeona · 05-09-2011 01:59PM

Galtee wrote: »

I'll bet you do.

Yeah flutterflye, I don't believe you either. If you really drive like a man, how many fatal accidents have you caused?

Galtee · 05-09-2011 02:01PM

Feeona wrote: »

Yeah flutterflye, I don't believe you either. If you really drive like a man, how many fatal accidents have you caused?

Crushing blow. Careful now.

Galtee · 05-09-2011 02:02PM

o1s1n wrote: »

Can you think of another ad with a product for women objectifying men other than that and the recent Maltesers one?

The one where the guy goes into a swimming pool and two girls take his towel so he has to walk by naked. don't know what it was for. sweets or something.

Feeona · 05-09-2011 02:03PM

Galtee wrote: »

Crushing blow. Careful now.

I agreed with you! And you're crushed! Talk about a drama queen :pac:

o1s1n · 05-09-2011 02:04PM

Galtee wrote: »

The one where the guy goes into a swimming pool and two girls take his towel so he has to walk by naked. don't know what it was for. sweets or something.

LaCoste! I remember that.

I also distinctly remember a load of guys I know going mental complaining about it.

Feeona · 05-09-2011 02:05PM

o1s1n wrote: »

LaCoste! I remember that.

I also distinctly remember a load of guys I know going mental complaining about it.

Bloody masculinazis

Hunky Dory girls are back

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