Why are young Irish women so rude in bars/clubs?

Fentdog84 · 04-09-2011 02:44PM

Interesting debate, I guess there is two sides to it. You get the annoying drunk arseholes in nightclubs full of tetosterome, barging into everyone, spilling drinks on top of people, shouting at the top of their voices(Im sure Ive been that guy myself on occasion!) so i can understand girls a lot to contend with in that respect.

But i do think irish girls are overly defensive generally speaking compared to foreign women Asian, spanish etc who are normally polite and smiling. Even when you are obviously chatting them up and they are not interested. Sometimes irish girls are just downright rude when it not necessary. Like one night recently i was in the smoking area and there was a girl standing next to me and i said ''Hi'' to which she replied ''**** off''. i mean i just said Hi, I wasnt all over her spitting or drooling or anything. Youd swear id asked for a BJ or something. And i dont subscribe to the notion that women dont go to clubs to pull either. Well obviously some dont but tell me you get all dressed up just to stand in a corner with yer mates all night just to tell 10 different guys to piss off. Girls are just waiting for the right opportunity to get some also. it works both ways! :pac:

booboo88 · 04-09-2011 02:45PM

magma69 wrote: »

Out of all the places I have been, I found Irish girls, in general, to be the most stuck up by far. Which is strange because they are the ugliest also (as are the men).

Thats probably why you dont have much luck

Sonics2k · 04-09-2011 02:45PM

booboo88 wrote: »

meet for one night stands eh no thanks

Different strokes for different folks and all that.

What I'm basically saying is, it's harmless for someone to hit on you. Sure it gets annoying if they won't sod off after you make it clear you're not interested. But that's more assholes being assholes than anything :pac:

magma69 · 04-09-2011 02:46PM

booboo88 wrote: »

Thats probably why you dont have much luck

I do just fine:). I just tell it like it is. Sorry if it offends you but it's the truth.

booboo88 · 04-09-2011 02:48PM

magma69 wrote: »

I do just fine:). I just tell it like it is. Sorry if it offends you but it's the truth.

suureeee you do

Sonics2k wrote: »

Different strokes for different folks and all that.

What I'm basically saying is, it's harmless for someone to hit on you. Sure it gets annoying if they won't sod off after you make it clear you're not interested. But that's more assholes being assholes than anything :pac:

Thats exactly it, majority of time I politely tell them no, hint I've a boyfriend even if I dont, but if they dont bugger off then its time to pull out the not so nice tricks

dark crystal · 04-09-2011 02:50PM

x in the city wrote: »

yes

asians dont want stupid expensive drinks ever time they go out and they certainly dont need shoes every day of the week.

You have heard of Imelda Marcos, haven't you?

magma69 · 04-09-2011 02:50PM

booboo88 wrote: »

suureeee you do

Cool story.
:rolleyes:

py2006 · 04-09-2011 03:06PM

It is quite obvious from this thread that some guys have had bad experiences with this particular section of Irish women.

However, it is unfair to dismiss their experiences by coming up with tit for tat retorts. The OP didn't say he was a drunk sleazy lout drooling over the girl. Nor did any of the other guys.

Its the horrible attitude that some have towards the nice guy who says hello. It must happen quite a lot if this thread is anything to go by so it can't be dismissed as the big bad men being sexist towards women. :rolleyes:

Simple as.

booboo88 · 04-09-2011 03:08PM

py2006 wrote: »

It is quite obvious from this thread that some guys have had bad experiences with this particular section of Irish women.

However, it is unfair to dismiss their experiences by coming up with tit for tat retorts. The OP didn't say he was a drunk sleazy lout drooling over the girl. Nor did any of the other guys.

Its the horrible attitude that some have towards the nice guy who says hello. It must happen quite a lot if this thread is anything to go by so it can't be dismissed as the big bad men being sexist towards women. :rolleyes:

Simple as.

Well to be fair he generalising irish women as rude and dismissive, what did he expect?

Richard Dower · 04-09-2011 03:09PM

Alot of girls are stuck up and way too high standards, but not all [PC add-on]

Richard Dower · 04-09-2011 03:12PM

booboo88 wrote: »

Well to be fair he generalising irish women as rude and dismissive, what did he expect?

Sweeping generalisations are great, because generally speaking they are true, for the majority...but not all. Saying people generalise is just a tool to offer another opinion when the generalistions is, for the most part, entirely correct.

booboo88 · 04-09-2011 03:13PM

Richard Dower wrote: »

Sweeping generalisations are great, because generally speaking they are true, for the majority...but not all. Saying people generalise is just a tool to offer another opinion when the generalistions is, for the most part, entirely correct.

So all Irish women are stuck up ugly bit*hes then?

Tayla · 04-09-2011 03:13PM

py2006 wrote: »

It is quite obvious from this thread that some guys have had bad experiences with this particular section of Irish women.

However, it is unfair to dismiss their experiences by coming up with tit for tat retorts. The OP didn't say he was a drunk sleazy lout drooling over the girl. Nor did any of the other guys.

Its the horrible attitude that some have towards the nice guy who says hello. It must happen quite a lot if this thread is anything to go by so it can't be dismissed as the big bad men being sexist towards women. :rolleyes:

Simple as.

It's just that this thread comes up all the time, Irish women are stuck up, Irish women are ugly.....Foreign girls are so much better than Irish girls etc. etc.

I think black men are hot and I know plenty of Irish d**kheads but I also know nice decent ones so I won't go starting threads saying how all Irish men are ugly arseholes and that they're so crap compared to black guys.

I know the OP actually had a point and a reason to start the thread but if you're wondering why there is so much tit for tat going on it's because similar threads are on here almost every day!

aaronjumper · 04-09-2011 03:14PM

Women like to be swept off their feet and surprised.
That's why I rugby tackle em from the side.

Works like a charm.

The King of Moo · 04-09-2011 03:17PM

py2006 wrote: »

It is quite obvious from this thread that some guys have had bad experiences with this particular section of Irish women.

However, it is unfair to dismiss their experiences by coming up with tit for tat retorts. The OP didn't say he was a drunk sleazy lout drooling over the girl. Nor did any of the other guys.

Its the horrible attitude that some have towards the nice guy who says hello. It must happen quite a lot if this thread is anything to go by so it can't be dismissed as the big bad men being sexist towards women. :rolleyes:

Simple as.

It's true that sometimes a lot of nice guys do get rejected rudely, but unfortunately I think most Irish women are just too used to the drunken assholes chatting them up, and some nice guys unfortunately get lumped into that category.
A guy might be nice, but in a dark nightclub with drink on board it can be hard for a girl to know if the guy approaching her is nice or an asshole.
The assholes probably usually start with "hi" too.

Unfortunately there's just too many assholes out there who can't see women as people to interact with normally, rather than mysterious, inexplicable objects that must be feared and conquered.

I'm glad I've always had female friends so I can be normal around women. Well, as normal as I can be :pac:.

Raekwon · 04-09-2011 03:17PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Oh sure there's a lot of hyperbole and with a lot of this I blame many men out there moaning because they got rejected while doing wallflower impressions with the odd burst of manic and awkward drink fueled approaching. I'd also say(and saying this as a born and bred Dubliner) Dublin is the worst for this kinda thing in both sexes. I see you're in Sligo, well IMHO you'll see less of this gobshítery there than in the capital.

One thing I have noticed though is that some people (mainly guys I must admit) who are originally from different counties and who live/work/study in Dublin can sometimes act like even bigger eejits then the locals on a night out. It's as being away from home gives them licences to do whatever they want because they aren't "pissing on their own doorstep" as it were.

I think it's fair to say that Dublin women have a reputation of being very rude and unapproachable, but do people think that this is counter balanced by their loud and obnoxious male counterparts from outside the capital?

........or have I just opened another massive can of worms? :pac:

jameshealy19 · 04-09-2011 03:19PM

if Irish women don't want to be approached in bars/nightclubs, I would suggest to them to stop wearing make-up and revealing outfits on a night out. Therefore you won't get approached as much

Richard Dower · 04-09-2011 03:21PM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

if Irish women don't want to be approached in bars/nightclubs, I would suggest to them to stop wearing make-up and revealing outfits on a night out. Therefore you won't get approached as much

:eek: you're playing with fire mate!....i'm a moron and even I know not to go there!

The King of Moo · 04-09-2011 03:23PM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

if Irish women don't want to be approached in bars/nightclubs, I would suggest to them to stop wearing make-up and revealing outfits on a night out. Therefore you won't get approached as much

Women can dress for their own enjoyment and for their friends to appreciate.

Their only reason for dressing up doesn't have to be so we men will think they're right purdy.

Damn it, now the can's empty and you've got worms all over the floor!

magma69 · 04-09-2011 03:23PM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

if Irish women don't want to be approached in bars/nightclubs, I would suggest to them to stop wearing make-up and revealing outfits on a night out. Therefore you won't get approached as much

Jesus christ! :eek: That's a crazy attitude. Why don't they just not wash also, the smell will keep the guys away!

jameshealy19 · 04-09-2011 03:24PM

magma69 wrote: »

Jesus christ! :eek: That's a crazy attitude. Why don't they just not wash also, the smell will keep the guys away!

Well women are complaining that they're getting approaching a load, so why do they put in all that effort to do themselves up before going out, why don't they dress normally?

Villette · 04-09-2011 03:25PM

I don't like it when people say all Irish women are rude, as to label everyone as the same is ridiculous. I do have to admit that there are certain girls who can be very rude in pubs, usually when they're very young.
I think it's an insecurity thing...they are taken by surprise and are so worried about what their friends might think.
I had a friend who was horrible to men in pubs and nightclubs. It was really embarrassing being out with her! She once said 'eww' to a boy's face as he tried to push past her in a nightclub - he wasn't even coming on to her. I told her I had a problem with that particular incident but she thought it was hilarious. I think it was because she was obsessed with having a 'hot guy' and was generally a bit insecure. She was 19 at the time, but I can't say what she's like now a few years later as we (unsurprisingly) drifted.

Miss Olenska · 04-09-2011 03:26PM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

if Irish women don't want to be approached in bars/nightclubs, I would suggest to them to stop wearing make-up and revealing outfits on a night out. Therefore you won't get approached as much

Burqas it is so! Only ankles to be displayed!

jameshealy19 wrote: »

Well women are complaining that they're getting approaching a load, so why do they put in all that effort to do themselves up before going out, why don't they dress normally?

Define normal.

dark crystal · 04-09-2011 03:27PM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

Well women are complaining that they're getting approaching a load, so why do they put in all that effort to do themselves up before going out, why don't they dress normally?

Eh, because women do like having a bit of pride in their appearance when they go out, just like men do.

By the way, what do you define as dressing 'normally'?

magma69 · 04-09-2011 03:28PM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

Well women are complaining that they're getting approaching a load, so why do they put in all that effort to do themselves up before going out, why don't they dress normally?

Girls like to do themselves up before they go out. They enjoy it and who doesn't like to look good. I know I do. No offense, but you seem to have a very warped view on this.

The King of Moo · 04-09-2011 03:28PM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

Well women are complaining that they're getting approaching a load, so why do they put in all that effort to do themselves up before going out, why don't they dress normally?

Come on, do you think women only think of what men will think when they dress up?

Do you choose your clothes solely on the basis of how attractive women will find them?

Jesu Crist, people can dress up for the sake of looking good, they don't have to be so completely lacking in self-esteem that all their actions are based on pleasing others.
I hope that's not how you like your woman.

jaffacakesyum · 04-09-2011 03:29PM

OP is clearly trolling at this stage

Miss Olenska · 04-09-2011 03:29PM

Raekwon wrote: »

........or have I just opened another massive can of worms? :pac:

I wouldn't worry about that, cans being opened with abandon all over the shop on this thread:

The King of Moo wrote: »

Damn it, now the can's empty and you've got worms all over the floor!

jameshealy19 · 04-09-2011 03:29PM

dark crystal wrote: »

Eh, because women do like having a bit of pride in their appearance when they go out, just like men do.

By the way, what do you define as dressing 'normally'?

Normal = how they dress during the day

Kevin Duffy · 04-09-2011 03:31PM

Miss Olenska wrote: »

Burqas it is so! Only ankles to be displayed!

Here you go Miss O. See you next Friday for coffee. Not sure how I'll recognise you though.

Why are young Irish women so rude in bars/clubs?

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