Why are young Irish women so rude in bars/clubs?

seachto7 · 04-09-2011 03:50AM

Jess16 wrote: »

Well it would be easy to dismiss it as that but they actually called us another cab, waited with us until it arrived and insisted we went home while they dealt with Mr Issues. I can hardly believe it myself really

indeed, ever the gentlemen...............you're not that gullible surely!!

I have done all of what those English guys did before on the pull, and a lot of the time it worked, as I didn't act the idiot and used common sense and politeness but in reality I just wanted to get my end away........

seachto7 · 04-09-2011 03:53AM

It could be worse, we could be Italian men trying to chat up women. Now there are guys who have no idea how to do it.............

Miss Olenska · 04-09-2011 03:56AM

lima wrote: »

I remember walking up the stairs from the toilets minding my own business in 4DameLane and there were two girls talking on the steps. I said 'excuse me' as they were in my way and one of them said 'no, no, you go on ahead' and pushed me on!! I was with a girl upstairs and just had to crack up laughing at the cheek of them thinking I was chatting them up.

Um, what? You said "Excuse me", they said to go past, so I'm guessing they moved aside for you? What a scarring experience that must have been for you!

lima · 04-09-2011 04:10AM

Miss Olenska wrote: »

Um, what? You said "Excuse me", they said to go past, so I'm guessing they moved aside for you? What a scarring experience that must have been for you!

No, they assumed I was saying 'Excuse me' to get their attention, so that I could 'chat them up'. Let's assume that 'no, no, you go on ahead' meant 'no, I know that you are about to attempt to chat me up, don't even think about it, keep on going up them stairs'. Also the tone of their voices made it clear that they assumed incorrectly that I was trying to stay there and talk to them.

Do you understand that now Miss?

DEFTLEFTHAND · 04-09-2011 04:22AM

They have it built up in their heads that they are actually good looking. Give me Germany any day where good looking dames don't have a problem with fine looking men like myself chatting them up.

marcsignal · 04-09-2011 04:30AM

foreign girls ftw;) let the home grown mingers stew in their own juice :pac:

Mr Keek · 04-09-2011 04:49AM

agreed with alot of the girls statments about guys not taking the hint, they deserve what they get to be honest. Especially when it comes to groping or body grinding, it that was at work it would be sexual harassment.

Often been on the position where I'd spark up a conversation with a girl, and I'd subtly let my intentions known and ask for a dance or whatever to which I'd receive a "F*uck Off"(for the record, Im not a big drinker and don't Get drunk) , what ever happened to No thank you? We've just been chatting for the last 10 mins and you all of a sudden turn from a girl I'd be intrested in to a complete bitch?

I've had far more positive experiences where I took the hint and just had a nice brief chat.

I've had plenty of girls approach me tht I wouldn't touch but I'd still be nice with them, have a buzz and wish them a good night as i left. That's just me I guess, I could be a dick, I choose not to be!

Miss Olenska · 04-09-2011 05:25AM

lima wrote: »

No, they assumed I was saying 'Excuse me' to get their attention, so that I could 'chat them up'. Let's assume that 'no, no, you go on ahead' meant 'no, I know that you are about to attempt to chat me up, don't even think about it, keep on going up them stairs'. Also the tone of their voices made it clear that they assumed incorrectly that I was trying to stay there and talk to them.

Do you understand that now Miss?

You explained that very poorly the first time. Still think you're being over-sensitive, TBH.

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

They have it built up in their heads that they are actually good looking. Give me Germany any day where good looking dames don't have a problem with fine looking men like myself chatting them up.

Hello irony.

average hero · 04-09-2011 05:30AM

This is an interesting thread as I work in a very busy city centre pub and see this all of the time. Irish women are different to foreign women no doubt. Personally I believe that they do seem like 'great friends' but 'bad flirters'. To explain, Irish women will chat away all day to you if you approach in a friendly manner. Approach in a flirty way and they will run a mile.

There are numerous reasons for this rudeness in my opinion. Firstly, make-up. An average looking girl can look AMAZING with proper make-up applied properly. This increases confidence, and the amount of attention she gets. This may lead to an ego problem if not kept in check. She has her pick of the litter so she may dismiss 95% of approaches straight off.

On the ladies side, they get approached every night by tens upon tens of men looking for one thing, and one thing only. Lets be honest. Bring attention to yourself in a good way before approaching. Be entertaining, dress really really well, so that she see's you (and cares) before you approach her whilst she is taking to her friends.

There are good and bad in both sexes, and people from every country.

IPushButtons · 04-09-2011 05:36AM

I think they think you want to **** them funny that, a mate of mine a taxi driver recons that most nights (after the nightclub) he gets heaps of chicks crying into his face cos they can't get a guy.

hahahah there just op, don't give a ****

IPushButtons · 04-09-2011 05:36AM

I think they think you want to **** them funny that, a mate of mine a taxi driver recons that most nights (after the nightclub) he gets heaps of chicks crying into his face cos they can't get a guy.

hahahah there just young op, don't give a ****

TomBeckett · 04-09-2011 06:20AM

Over here its the opposite.. Its the men that get all the attention...:p:p

And its Fcuking great:D:D:D

tolosenc · 04-09-2011 06:43AM

OP, you big error here was approaching Irish women. Foreign women are better for the gene pool and better for your mental health.

Esel · 04-09-2011 06:57AM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

Went out last night with several mates, we approached several Irish women for a chat, (none of us were drunk) and all we ended up getting was really harsh put-downs within the first 10secs. A woman has no rational reason to put a man down like that so fast. Where is the respect and manners amongst Irish girls these days?

@jameshealy19: If you build it, they will come.

later12 · 04-09-2011 07:23AM

lima wrote: »

OP, forget trying to talk to Irish girls in clubs and just go abroad where social interaction is normal between males and females. If you don't get laid, then at least you may make friends with some girls and that may lead to meeting your girl in the future...

This is just silly. There is an implication in the majority of the posts on here that if a man approaches a woman in a nightclub she should
(1) respond in a way that indicates she is attracted to him, or
(2) respond in a way that indicates that she wants to be his friend.

What about option
(3) 'I don't want to mate with you, and I don't want to be your friend, I'm here with my girlfriends and we're all hot lesbians?

But really; girls aren't obliged to be polite any more than guys are. And if you're telling me you don't know guys who can be rude to girls in nightclubs then I'm afraid you may have a credibility issue.

Inbox · 04-09-2011 07:31AM

I learnt that's it's quite futile just walking up and chatting to random women.

It's much better to wait and sus out who is showing an interest in you. Wait till you find them glancing over and smiling, then you have a much better chance.

04-09-2011 08:20AM

Avoid Irish girls like the plague.. Even when they're backpackin over here, they're tough work. If you chat to them at all, they presume you're interested when really I just got left standin next to them.

Father Damo · 04-09-2011 08:31AM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

Went out last night with several mates, we approached several Irish women for a chat, (none of us were drunk) and all we ended up getting was really harsh put-downs within the first 10secs. A woman has no rational reason to put a man down like that so fast. Where is the respect and manners amongst Irish girls these days?

Lets be honest, they are less rude and more craic than German, French, Polish....pretty much most nationalities.

4leto · 04-09-2011 09:06AM

Lets be honest, Irish men and I am one, are pathetic. I sometimes think from living abroad Irish men are naturally shy and the only way we can approach a woman while out is when we are half pissed.

As for Irish woman they are usually equally as pissed and tanked up to respond to the the usual drunken banter.

Foreigners really do drink less while out, they even do things like go for a meal, I know weird.

desertcircus · 04-09-2011 09:23AM

How To Make Sure You Never Learn How To Talk To Women:

Blame them every time you do a bad job of it. Seven guys going up to a group of girls at once is a bit much; they may be attached; they may have decided to have a girls' night out. Going by what I've heard from female friends, unwanted male attention is a more or less constant hazard in Irish nightclubs. If you're the fifth group they've had to get rid of that night, then they're probably right to be rude about it - otherwise they'll spend their whole night trying to politely get rid of blokes.

They weren't interested in talking to you. You have a choice of what to do with that fact: either blame them and assume that all Irish women are horrible harpies (which is childish, unpleasant and misogynistic) or figure out why they weren't interested and change that. If they don't like talking to large groups, try going out in smaller groups. Try chatting to them at the bar while they're waiting to order. Try going speed-dating. Try dance classes. Try internet dating.

Just because you fancy talking to some women on a night out doesn't mean they have any obligation to humour you.

In_My_Tree · 04-09-2011 09:39AM

Have you tried blasting them with..Oh forget about it.

Onikage · 04-09-2011 09:43AM

Seven guys approaching one girl? It doesn't always go this smoothly...

jameshealy19 · 04-09-2011 10:08AM

Onikage wrote: »

Seven guys approaching one girl? It doesn't always go this smoothly...

it wasnt seven approaching 1 obviously, it was one approaching one or two

AnnieBaby · 04-09-2011 10:12AM

Ahhh this is sad

A few Irish fellas visiting my hometown this summer said it was common for Irish girls to be a tad rude in nightclubs in Dublin City.

It's hard for girls too though; often if they show a bit of niceness it gets misunderstood by the fella as something more.

tweedledee · 04-09-2011 10:17AM

AHHH the Irish are such great lovers

jonnygiles · 04-09-2011 10:19AM

Im sure that situation has happened to most guys in their time OP. It does seem that the majority of women in the 18-22 age bracket appear to like beign very dismissive to advances whether they were in a acceptable manner of not. Best off ignoring them and just having a good time on your own, let them come to you. Decided I had enough of chasing Irish women and now have an American girlfriend and couldnt be happier:) Foreign women to tend to be more approachable just to have a general conversation with imo

Onikage · 04-09-2011 10:20AM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

it wasnt seven approaching 1 obviously, it was one approaching one or two

I know, I'm being facetious. I appreciate that you had an unpleasant experience, but what do expect will happen if you post about it here? I suggest you should be prepared for the following responses:

A: Agree
B: Blame you
C: Pics or GTFO/Yore Ma/Blast with piss/Atari Jaguar

Don't expect too much of A.

py2006 · 04-09-2011 10:23AM

jameshealy19 wrote: »

Went out last night with several mates, we approached several Irish women for a chat, (none of us were drunk) and all we ended up getting was really harsh put-downs within the first 10secs. A woman has no rational reason to put a man down like that so fast. Where is the respect and manners amongst Irish girls these days?

A lot of Irish girls are stuck up their own hole on nights out. Full of nasty attitude thinking they are all models and they can treat guys (they don't fancy) like crap.

AnnieBaby · 04-09-2011 10:23AM

jonnygiles wrote: »

Im sure that situation has happened to most guys in their time OP. It does seem that the majority of women in the 18-22 age bracket appear to like beign very dismissive to advances whether they were in a acceptable manner of not. Best off ignoring them and just having a good time on your own, let them come to you. Decided I had enough of chasing Irish women and now have an American girlfriend and couldnt be happier:) Foreign women to tend to be more approachable just to have a general conversation with imo

Ahahaaaa ... that is what my Dubliner friends said to me about American women

To be honest I'm sure American women treat American men how Irish women treat Irish men :P

--LOS-- · 04-09-2011 10:27AM

ah the ole irish girls are ugly bitches thread

*yawn*

Why are young Irish women so rude in bars/clubs?

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