Tv licence - i dont own a tv..

Mike 1972 · 03-09-2011 01:52PM

Skunkle wrote: »

So rather than show the licence and clear up the mistake you decided to waste everyones time by being a jackass about it. And this somehow is a valid reason not the let an inspector enter your home ?

He was the one wasting MY time knocking on MY door.
He was the jackass by virtue of not even being able to check an address properly (UK licence inspectors supposedly have all this high faluting detector technology yet dont even have a bloody satnav

)
By wasting his time I was performing a public service by ensuring he was left with less time in which to pursue his grubby trade.

And I make no apology for refusing to allow complete strangers into my home (especially ones who presume to falsely accuse me of breaking some rag of a law)

Paparazzo · 03-09-2011 01:56PM

Skunkle wrote: »

No but it doesnt change the fact that the only reason you dont want him in your house is because you know you are legally obliged to pay the licence and are trying to avoid doing so.

Think you're on your own there. Why would anyone let a stranger stroll around their house if they didn't have to?
It's up to the TV licence people to prove you need a TV licence, why would you help them if you don't have to?

MungBean · 03-09-2011 01:57PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

He was the one wasting MY time knocking on MY door.
He was the jackass by virtue of not even being able to check an address properly (UK licence inspectors supposedly have all this high faluting detector technology yet dont even have a bloody satnav )
By wasting his time I was performing a public service by ensuring he was left with less time in which to pursue his grubby trade.

And I make no apology for refusing to allow complete strangers into my home (especially ones who presume to falsely accuse me of breaking some rag of a law)

He made a mistake and rather than point that out and clear it up you act like a child. You weren't performing a public service you were wasting a public servants time and tax payers money because you were either too ignorant to deal with the situation like a rational human being or you had nothing better to do.

MungBean · 03-09-2011 02:01PM

Paparazzo wrote: »

Think you're on your own there. Why would anyone let a stranger stroll around their house if they didn't have to?
It's up to the TV licence people to prove you need a TV licence, why would you help them if you don't have to?

To avoid a drama, to clear up any misunderstanding. I'm not on my own, any rational human being who had no TV would be only too delighted to invite an inspector in so they can scratch you off the list.

Why create an issue where there is none just to be awkward ?

Mike 1972 · 03-09-2011 02:02PM

Skunkle wrote: »

He made a mistake and rather than point that out and clear it up you act like a child. You weren't performing a public service you were wasting a public servants time and tax payers money because you were either too ignorant to deal with the situation like a rational human being or you had nothing better to do.

UK licence inspectors are not "public servants" (Come to think of it neither are Irish ones -except in the strictly generic sense) they work (on commission) for a private company subcontracted to the BBC.

He was an incompetent fukwit who couldnt get a real job and given that he was trespassing on my property he was treated a lot more favourably than he deserved.

And yes I do have better things to do than deal with such people and I certainly dont have to justify myself to either them or you.

MungBean · 03-09-2011 02:11PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

UK licence inspectors are not "public servants" (Come to think of it neither are Irish ones -except in the strictly generic sense) they work (on commission) for a private company subcontracted to the BBC.

Of I see now, you were performing a public service. :rolleyes:

He was an incompetent fukwit who couldnt get a real job and given that he was trespassing on my property he was treated a lot more favourably than he deserved.

And yes I do have better things to do than deal with such people.

As have I, good luck to ya.

uncle_sam_ie · 03-09-2011 02:13PM

Skunkle wrote: »

To avoid a drama, to clear up any misunderstanding. I'm not on my own, any rational human being who had no TV would be only too delighted to invite an inspector in so they can scratch you off the list.

Why create an issue where there is none just to be awkward ?

I agree you shouldn't be a jerk to an inspector by refusing to talk to him, but being subjected to an to interrogation and then having my home inspected is were would draw the line. All he needs to know is, I don't have a TV and that's it.

Paparazzo · 03-09-2011 02:14PM

Skunkle wrote: »

To avoid a drama, to clear up any misunderstanding. I'm not on my own, any rational human being who had no TV would be only too delighted to invite an inspector in so they can scratch you off the list.

Why create an issue where there is none just to be awkward ?

Nothing to do with being awkward, just don't want a stranger snooping around my house.

Minstrel27 · 03-09-2011 02:19PM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPwNgIsH9BA

The guy with the camera is a tosser.

MungBean · 03-09-2011 02:20PM

Paparazzo wrote: »

Nothing to do with being awkward, just don't want a stranger snooping around my house.

So you never have work done by a painter/carpenter/plumber/electrician because you dont want strangers snooping around your house ?

If you had a meter inside your house would you refuse the ESB worker access to it ? If you have a washer or fridge delivered would you demand the delivery men leave it outside rather than bring it in ?

Its not the stranger part its the inspector part that you have the problem with.

MungBean · 03-09-2011 02:23PM

uncle_sam_ie wrote: »

I agree you shouldn't be a jerk to an inspector by refusing to talk to him, but being subjected to an to interrogation and then having my home inspected is were would draw the line. All he needs to know is, I don't have a TV and that's it.

And if you showed him inside he would know that and that would be that. You expect them to walk up to a house and ask if you need to pay a licence and take everyone at their word ?

Mike 1972 · 03-09-2011 02:24PM

Paparazzo wrote: »

Nothing to do with being awkward, just don't want a stranger snooping around my house.

Dont you see you are being jackass, awakward, childish and any-other-term-of-abuse-I-can-come-up-with-thats-not-strong-enough-enough-to-earn-a-ban. You should invite them in insist on them checking every room in your house (Dont forget the attic/shed/under the stairs) and invite them to search your underwear drawer just to be sure. And dont let them leave until youve stripped off, handed them the gloves and bent over for the cavity search.

And dont bother asking for ID or checking if they are REALLY licence inspectors -thats just wasting their time like.

Minstrel27 wrote: »

The guy with the camera is a tosser.

Why.

Are you telling me that if he was to pay a visit to the police station and speak to the officer there there wouldnt be CCTV cameras all over the place ?

Paparazzo · 03-09-2011 02:24PM

Skunkle wrote: »

So you never have work done by a painter/carpenter/plumber/electrician because you dont want strangers snooping around your house ?

If you had a meter inside your house would you refuse the ESB worker access to it ? If you have a washer or fridge delivered would you demand the delivery men leave it outside rather than bring it in ?

Its not the stranger part its the inspector part that you have the problem with.

The difference is, I choose to bring them in myself.

MungBean · 03-09-2011 02:25PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Dont you see you are being jackass, awakward, childish and any-other-term-of-abuse-I-can-come-up-with-thats-not-strong-enough-enough-to-earn-a-ban. You should invite them in insist on them checking every room in your house (Dont forget the attic/shed/under the stairs) and invite them to search your underwear drawer just to be sure. And dont let them leave until youve stripped off, handed them the gloves and bent over for the cavity search.

And dont bother asking for ID or checking if they are REALLY licence inspectors thats just wasting their time like.

Grow up.

listermint · 03-09-2011 02:27PM

Minstrel27 wrote: »

The guy with the camera is a tosser.

Maybe, but he managed to make the officer look really poor.

Her goal should not have been to side with the inspector rather establish the facts (or his version of it) as to why she was called to the site.

Instead she made herself look quite silly.

Her line of questioning was all wrong and she should have just asked why she was called (in his view) and taken it down in her notes and then jotted off on her way.

OneArt · 03-09-2011 02:28PM

A little off-topic but I remember once a Sky salesman came to the door. I let him do his whole spiel and then I told him I didn't own a TV.

Back on topic... Never had a problem with inspectors. The trouble with Germany is even if you own a computer with internet or a radio you have to pay a license. On the plus said by law you don't have to let them into your house. I don't even know if I pay my TV license or not... Should really check up on that!

Mike 1972 · 03-09-2011 02:28PM

OneArt wrote: »

Back on topic... Never had a problem with inspectors. The trouble with Germany is even if you own a computer with internet or a radio you have to pay a license.

So for the four days I spent in Germany with a radio, laptop and a USB TV tuner dongle in my luggage I should have had a licence ????

Skunkle wrote: »

Grow up.

Youre right I should just put you on my ignore list shouldnt I

[Poster on Ignore list]

ilovesleep · 03-09-2011 02:31PM

Skunkle wrote: »

So you never have work done by a painter/carpenter/plumber/electrician because you dont want strangers snooping around your house ?

If you had a meter inside your house would you refuse the ESB worker access to it ? If you have a washer or fridge delivered would you demand the delivery men leave it outside rather than bring it in ?

Its not the stranger part its the inspector part that you have the problem with.

The difference is a tv license inspector calls around unexpectatly. You could have the place in an absolute tip or perhaps you may have porn magazines and a dildo on the coffee table. Perhaps there may be a lover bollocks naked inside. Or maybe depending on your schedule you may have dirty knickers and clothes strewn about the place. Whereas if you are expecting one to call like a plumber you would have the place somewhat presentable for another human being.

Mike 1972 · 03-09-2011 02:34PM

ilovesleep wrote: »

Whereas if you are expecting one to call like a plumber you would have the place somewhat presentable for another human being.

Not to mention having the TV moved to aforementioned lovers gaf :pac:

uncle_sam_ie · 03-09-2011 02:34PM

Skunkle wrote: »

And if you showed him inside he would know that and that would be that. You expect them to walk up to a house and ask if you need to pay a licence and take everyone at their word ?

Yes he should take my word for it. By wanting to come in and inspect my home he's accusing me of lying. It's offensive and were I draw the line.

MungBean · 03-09-2011 02:34PM

Paparazzo wrote: »

The difference is, I choose to bring them in myself.

My point exactly. You have no problem with strangers in your house you just have a problem with an inspector in your house. Not saying you should let them into your home its your home and your decision, all I'm saying is that a lot of hassle can be avoided when you do let them to see you have no TV.

Myself and I'd wager the majority of people (your initial point was that I was on my own in allowing them in to avoid the hassle) would rather put up with the 2 minutes of them in my home than create an issue that could lead to Gardai at the door, fines, court appearances and whatnot. Although not nice to have the inspector in your front room its certainly a lot better than the hassle that can come from saying you have no TV but refusing to show proof of it.

MungBean · 03-09-2011 02:38PM

uncle_sam_ie wrote: »

Yes he should take my word for it. By wanting to come in and inspect my home he's accusing me of lying. It's offensive and were I draw the line.

Its not accusing you of lying its just that they cant take peoples word for it. If they did nobody would pay, everyone in the country would claim they have no TV.

mikom · 03-09-2011 02:38PM

Skunkle wrote: »

Myself and I'd wager the majority of people (your initial point was that I was on my own in allowing them in to avoid the hassle) would rather put up with the 2 minutes of them in my home than create an issue that could lead to Gardai at the door, fines, court appearances and whatnot. Although not nice to have the inspector in your front room its certainly a lot better than the hassle that can come from saying you have no TV but refusing to show proof of it.

Yeah, let them waltz in....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xgj1Csnr_w

aN.Droid · 03-09-2011 02:39PM

Skunkle wrote: »

So you never have work done by a painter/carpenter/plumber/electrician because you dont want strangers snooping around your house ?

If you had a meter inside your house would you refuse the ESB worker access to it ? If you have a washer or fridge delivered would you demand the delivery men leave it outside rather than bring it in ?

Its not the stranger part its the inspector part that you have the problem with.

I would never let an inspector in my home. They are there to incriminate you basically. Who in there right mind would allow such a thing to happen? Regardless if you have a TV or not. They are there with the intent of catching you. Mice don't just lay on there back ready for a cat to eat them.

As for your statement regards tradesmen, that is completely different. There are there at your invitation to do work for you. Infact for 90% of trades I would know someone myself personally.

By the way my home has a TV license, next year we will not.

MungBean · 03-09-2011 02:43PM

ilovesleep wrote: »

The difference is a tv license inspector calls around unexpectatly. You could have the place in an absolute tip or perhaps you may have porn magazines and a dildo on the coffee table. Perhaps there may be a lover bollocks naked inside. Or maybe depending on your schedule you may have dirty knickers and clothes strewn about the place. Whereas if you are expecting one to call like a plumber you would have the place somewhat presentable for another human being.

Thats not wanting them in your home, refusing to tell them anything, refusing to co-operate though. Thats just being caught at a time when its not an option to let them in. In that situation you dont say "Dont have a TV, cant come in, conversation over". You explain you have no TV, you explain its not a conveniant time for them to come inside and you ask them to call back at another time.

Paparazzo · 03-09-2011 02:43PM

Skunkle wrote: »

My point exactly. You have no problem with strangers in your house you just have a problem with an inspector in your house. Not saying you should let them into your home its your home and your decision, all I'm saying is that a lot of hassle can be avoided when you do let them to see you have no TV.

Myself and I'd wager the majority of people (your initial point was that I was on my own in allowing them in to avoid the hassle) would rather put up with the 2 minutes of them in my home than create an issue that could lead to Gardai at the door, fines, court appearances and whatnot. Although not nice to have the inspector in your front room its certainly a lot better than the hassle that can come from saying you have no TV but refusing to show proof of it.

Now you're getting it! Gardai at the door is no hassle for me. That's the TV licence inspector guys problem if he wants to get them. And if the police don't have a search warrent, they can piss off too. I decide who I want in my house.
And I doubt very much there's many search warrants issued by judges to search properties for a TV.

MungBean · 03-09-2011 02:45PM

mikom wrote: »

Yeah, let them waltz in....

They are like Nazi's looking for Jews ? lol

MungBean · 03-09-2011 02:47PM

Paparazzo wrote: »

Now you're getting it! Gardai at the door is no hassle for me. That's the TV licence inspector guys problem if he wants to get them. And if the police don't have a search warrent, they can piss off too. I decide who I want in my house.
And I doubt very much there's many search warrants issued by judges to search properties for a TV.

Probably not but the problem for you is the inspector can issue a fine without proof and failure to pay that fine or prove you shouldnt pay it will land you in court.

Its not as easy as ignore it and it goes away.

stoneill · 03-09-2011 02:48PM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

You dont need a license. Any information you give them is completely voulentary. MUST is a derivitave of MAY.

See this video and search "tv license inspector" on youtube for more...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPwNgIsH9BA

Poor girl - obviously - I'd say once she takes off the glasses - obviously - and lets down the hair - obviously - she looks fantastic!

MungBean · 03-09-2011 02:49PM

Limericks wrote: »

I would never let an inspector in my home. They are there to incriminate you basically. Who in there right mind would allow such a thing to happen? Regardless if you have a TV or not. They are there with the intent of catching you. Mice don't just lay on there back ready for a cat to eat them.

As for your statement regards tradesmen, that is completely different. There are there at your invitation to do work for you. Infact for 90% of trades I would know someone myself personally.

By the way my home has a TV license, next year we will not.

People who have TV licences, or have no TV. The people who dont have a licence but should are the people who are worried about being incriminated.

Tv licence - i dont own a tv..

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