Tv licence - i dont own a tv..

Greentopia · 03-09-2011 03:12AM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

They call them "officers" lol. They are civilians in fancy dress in reality :pac:

Ok so that's a 'no the cops can't enter your home'?

I wish I was more up on the legalities of the situation, hence my request for clarification

Daithi 1 · 03-09-2011 03:15AM

Greentopia wrote: »

Ok so that's a 'no the cops can't enter your home'?

I wish I was more up on the legalities of the situation, hence my request for clarification

It's all voulentary mate answering their questions is not obligitory.

Say nothing, pay nothing.

Notorioux · 03-09-2011 03:18AM

Show this to the court or tv licence inspector and tell em' that this is the reason why you don't own a tele and not bother paying for licence and you're sorted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MahY3MSRug0

Daithi 1 · 03-09-2011 03:21AM

Notorioux wrote: »

Show this to the court or tv license inspector and tell em' that this is the reason you don't own a tele and not bother to pay for license.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MahY3MSRug0

Any that why I dont frequent RTE studios aswell.

Greentopia · 03-09-2011 03:26AM

Notorioux wrote: »

Show this to the court or tv license inspector and tell em' that this is the reason why you don't own a tele and not bother paying for license and you're sorted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MahY3MSRug0

Lol, morto just watching that. What was she thinking? :eek:

Daithi 1 · 03-09-2011 03:28AM

Greentopia wrote: »

Lol, morto just watching that. What was she thinking? :eek:

Reminds me of raving at the portmornock disco back in 1990 :cool:

Musicman2006 · 03-09-2011 09:25AM

Notorioux wrote: »

Show this to the court or tv licence inspector and tell em' that this is the reason why you don't own a tele and not bother paying for licence and you're sorted.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MahY3MSRug0

Hahaha watch this with the sound muted! Priceless!

Only an irish hip hop dancer would finish with a thumbs up at the end. Cant really see it goin down too well in harlem

uncle_sam_ie · 03-09-2011 10:31AM

I can't believe people would allow an inspector into their home. If you state you don't have a TV on the license renewal form and convey this to an inspector that might come to your home, then that should be the end of it. The onus is on them to prove your lying.

Gannicus · 03-09-2011 10:43AM

Sharrow wrote: »

Doesn't matter if you have a pc/mac/smart phone then you can watch rte programming off the website and so you have to have a tv licence.

Sharrow stop right there. Its a television licence not a watch the internet licence. You don't have to have a TV licence for your computer or laptop.

However they are trying to bring it in to encompass possession of computers and laptops because you can watch all your TV shows online.

Gannicus · 03-09-2011 10:48AM

Bullseye1 wrote: »

Next up will be having to buy a license for each tv.

You're actually supposed to have a licence per tv but they don't care once there is a licence in the house period.

Mike 1972 · 03-09-2011 11:34AM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

You might use your tv for dvd's only, computer games etc.

In the Republic or Ireland the TV set would still require a licence (unless the tuner has been removed) One has to be careful about quoting/using information from UK websites/publications as the law works differently in Ireland.

Actually theres a gap in the market for an Irish based anti-TV licence website provided its written by someone who actually knows what theyre talking about -any takers ?

Big Steve wrote: »

You're actually supposed to have a licence per tv .

MrStuffins wrote: »

Do you own a radio? if so, you need a tv license

Why are you spouting misinformation on a subject you obviously know nothing about ?

The radio licence was abolished in Ireland in the early 1970's

ilovesleep · 03-09-2011 11:34AM

Skunkle wrote: »

Come off it its enforceable by law, the ONLY reason you have to ignore the issue is because you have a TV but dont want to pay the licence. If you didnt have a TV you invite them in to see and all is fine, anything else and its common sense that your just trying to avoid paying.

I have a tv but it is broken for the past 10 months. I always meant to get it fixed but I probably won't at this stage. I can live very comfortably without it.

The tv licensing laws says that I need a license for a broken tv. So if an inspector comes to my door I will not under any circumstances invite him in to be forced into paying 160 a year for an ornament.

Would you pay tax and insurance for an old, broken down car in your back yard?

Mike 1972 · 03-09-2011 11:42AM

ilovesleep wrote: »

The tv licensing laws says that I need a license for a broken tv. ?

I dont believe you actually do.

The citizens disinformation website certainly claims you do but I strongly suspect they are talking through their vaginas.

Do landfill sites/recycling centres get stung for TV licences ?

Do owners of antique firearms which have been certified as deactivated (i.e. unusable) still require a gun licence ?

How can you be found guilty with possessing apparatus capable of receiving a television signal when the apparatus in question is decidedly incapable of receiving such a signal ?

Arianna_26 wrote: »

Don't see why it should get to the court stage. When the inspector calls around invite him to come in and see you don't have a TV, he will take note of it, drama over.

I dont have a dog therefore I dont have a dog licence
I dont have a gun therefore I dont have a gun licence
I dont enrich uranium in my garden shed therefore I dont have a nuclear reactor licence.

Oddly enough I dont get subjected to constant enquiries and harassment from the state bodies charged with dealing with such matters.

Perhaps they have this strange idea that I should be regarded as innocent until proven guilty ?

stateofflux · 03-09-2011 11:52AM

if your name isnt on the letters then just ignore it, if it is then id also ignore it

krudler · 03-09-2011 11:56AM

I have a tv in my sitting room and one in my bedrom, both are only used for dvds and games consoles, all my tv shows are downloaded off the net cos its mostly American tv I watch, I get no channels recieved to the tvs as we dont have a service from anyone, I just get broadband. there is an aerial on the roof but it doesnt do anything, we tried it when first moved in and nada, not channels= no licence needed for me, sure as sh1te not paying a licence for something thats not being used for the prupose the licence is for.

uncle_sam_ie · 03-09-2011 12:00PM

stateofflux wrote: »

if your name isnt on the letters then just ignore it, if it is then id also ignore it

If it doesn't have your name, ya bin it. If it has, then just tick you don't own a TV.
Honestly, why draw trouble on yourself.

Bens · 03-09-2011 12:30PM

1 - Dont answer your door to someone you dont know.
2 - You dont have to talk to anyone at your door unless they are the police.
3 - You dont have to let anyone into your house.
4 - The TV license inspector can talk all he wants, you dont have to answer.
5 - If he wants to go get a warrant to search your house, let him go get it.

Its your word against his about whether you have a tv or not.
Anyone comes to your door asking you questions about anything, just tell them to send you their questions in writing and you may or may not get back to them. Then close the door.

Mike 1972 · 03-09-2011 12:35PM

Bens wrote: »

1 - Dont answer your door to someone you dont know.
2 - You dont have to talk to anyone at your door unless they are the police.
3 - You dont have to let anyone into your house.
4 - The TV license inspector can talk all he wants, you dont have to answer.
5 - If he wants to go get a warrant to search your house, let him go get it.

6. You dont have to give them your name (and its generally a good idea not to)
7. You dont have to speak to them at all other than to point out to them that they are trespassing and to politely request that they remove themselves from your property.

Duiske · 03-09-2011 12:36PM

Skunkle wrote: »

Failure to pay a licence and suspicion that you are in possession of something that needs a licence is grounds for a search warrant.

As a matter of interest, has anyone ever heard of Gardai using a search warrant to check if a home has a TV or not ?

Big Steve wrote:

You're actually supposed to have a licence per tv but they don't care once there is a licence in the house period.

Actually, that, like a lot of information in this thread, is incorrect.

If I have two television sets in my home do I need licences for them both?

If the equipment capable of receiving a television signal (for example a television set or a personal computer) is held in a household (an apartment, flat or a house), then one television licence will cover multiple pieces of equipment. In other words, if you have a television set in your living room and kitchen, one television licence covers both sets.

However, if the building in which the equipment is kept is sub-divided into flats or apartments or other separate living quarters, then a separate television licence must be held for each of these quarters. In other words, an individual licence must be held for each separate flat, apartment or other dwelling.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer_affairs/media/tv_licences.html

Paparazzo · 03-09-2011 01:10PM

Duiske wrote: »

As a matter of interest, has anyone ever heard of Gardai using a search warrant to check if a home has a TV or not ?

If the Gardai do have one, just don't answer the door and have a camera ready. Imagine the uproar if the gardai kicked your door in to see if you had a TV.

Mike 1972 · 03-09-2011 01:17PM

Duiske wrote: »

As a matter of interest, has anyone ever heard of Gardai using a search warrant to check if a home has a TV or not ?

Never heard them doing it and not sure they would bother (although not sure if its legally possible to issue a licence inspector with a warrant where they would be "accompanied" by the cops)

On the other hand back in the day the Gardai accompanied P&T officials raiding pirate radio stations which at the time were covered by the same law.

Tonto86 · 03-09-2011 01:19PM

coolmoose wrote: »

Sharrow wrote: »

Doesn't matter if you have a pc/mac/smart phone then you can watch rte programming off the website and so you have to have a tv licence.

This is not correct.

You do not require a television licence to watch television on your computer or mobile phone. However, you do require a licence if the computer is used together with any other apparatus to receive a signal.

http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/consumer_affairs/media/tv_licences.html

EDIT: Pretty sure the need for a licence for a radio set was abolished (it was, 1972), only the TV licence remains.

Or in other words....

Ya need a tv licence for any device with a tv tuner in it.

If you have a 32 inch flatscreen monitor hooked up to a computer you dont need a licence along as the screen doesn't have a analog or digital tv tuner built in.

AH response: You can be watchin faircity online and frantically pulling the micky off yourself when the inspector calls but there ain't nothin he can do

mfceiling · 03-09-2011 01:24PM

Chris P. Bacon wrote: »

TV licence fella knocked at my friends door a while back,he said "have you a licence for the telly" my friend says "i dont have a telly","oh you dont,well why is there an aerial on your roof",to which my friend replied,"just because i have milk in the fridge it doesnt mean i have a cow out the back",and closed the door in his face.

That didn't happen...

MungBean · 03-09-2011 01:31PM

ilovesleep wrote: »

I have a tv but it is broken for the past 10 months. I always meant to get it fixed but I probably won't at this stage. I can live very comfortably without it.

The tv licensing laws says that I need a license for a broken tv. So if an inspector comes to my door I will not under any circumstances invite him in to be forced into paying 160 a year for an ornament.

Would you pay tax and insurance for an old, broken down car in your back yard?

No but it doesnt change the fact that the only reason you dont want him in your house is because you know you are legally obliged to pay the licence and are trying to avoid doing so.

Why does everyone keep throwing the same lame duck response at me ? You know you need a licence but you just dont want to pay it. Would I pay tax on a broken car in my yard ? No because I dont need to if its not on the road theres no law that says I have to. If the TV is fcuked dump it, dont leave it in your sitting room and whinge about having to pay a licence for it.

Mike 1972 · 03-09-2011 01:31PM

Skunkle wrote: »

No but it doesnt change the fact that the only reason you dont want him in your house is because you know you are legally obliged to pay the licence and are trying to avoid doing so.

Au contraire (aside from the contention that they are obliged to pay for a broken TV being legally dubious)

I had a run in with a licence inspector here onetime. I refused to let him in or answer any of his questions.

Thing is I actually had a licence but the dozy fukwit got the wrong house.

Tonto86 wrote: »

AH response: You can be watchin faircity online and frantically pulling the micky off yourself when the inspector calls but there ain't nothin he can do

That would be a matter for the mental health services ?

MungBean · 03-09-2011 01:36PM

Duiske wrote: »

As a matter of interest, has anyone ever heard of Gardai using a search warrant to check if a home has a TV or not ?

No but I have heard of the Gardai using arrest warrants to pick up people who have refused to pay the licence/fine and failed to appear in court. I'd imagine the checking for a TV would 99% of the time be done by looking through a window, checking the address for a sky/upc account.

Point is that although it might complicate things for the inspector who appears at your door, simply refusing to acknowledge you have a TV or should pay the fine isnt a fool proof way of avoiding paying it as some people would have you believe.

MungBean · 03-09-2011 01:39PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Au contraire (aside from the contention that they are obliged to pay for a broken TV being legally dubious)

I had a run in with a licence inspector here onetime. I refused to let him in or answer any of his questions.

Thing is I actually had a licence but the dozy fukwit got the wrong house.

That would be a matter for the mental health services ?

So rather than show the licence and clear up the mistake you decided to waste everyones time by being a jackass about it. And this somehow is a valid reason not the let an inspector enter your home ?

Chris P. Bacon · 03-09-2011 01:40PM

mfceiling wrote: »

That didn't happen...

Yes it did.

listermint · 03-09-2011 01:42PM

Skunkle wrote: »

So rather than show the licence and clear up the mistake you decided to waste everyones time by being a jackass about it. And this somehow is a valid reason not the let an inspector enter your home ?

Admit it, your a part time tv license inspector...

Are you a postman btw ?

MungBean · 03-09-2011 01:51PM

listermint wrote: »

Admit it, your a part time tv license inspector...

Are you a postman btw ?

Nope not a part time inspector, postman or door to door insurance salesman. I just find this freeman logic of "You only have to pay if you admit you have to pay, say nothing and pay nothing" very childlike and stupid.

Tv licence - i dont own a tv..

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