Tv licence - i dont own a tv..

Arianna_26 · 03-09-2011 02:36AM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

I'd rather not give them the satisfaction.

Would you invite a thief in to verify you have nothing worth stealing ?

Not quite the same thing but OK. Enjoy your day in court

MungBean · 03-09-2011 02:37AM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

So, being normal, using your constitutional right not to be intorrigated, randomly, by someone with a phoney badge of presumed authority arrouses suspicion ?
I think you are to far gone my friend.. beyond reasoning with. Good luck

Come off it its enforceable by law, the ONLY reason you have to ignore the issue is because you have a TV but dont want to pay the licence. If you didnt have a TV you invite them in to see and all is fine, anything else and its common sense that your just trying to avoid paying.

Greentopia · 03-09-2011 02:41AM

Can anyone clarify if this means that a Garda can enter your home if he/she has a warrant or can demand to see evidence of a licence-from the Broadcasting Act 2009 Section 146:

(2) A person appointed under subsection (1) shall, on his or her appointment be furnished by the issuing agent with a certificate of his or her appointment and when exercising a power conferred by subsection (3) shall, if requested by any person thereby affected, produce such certificate to that person for inspection.

(3) An officer of an issuing agent may enter at any reasonable time any premises or specified place for the purposes of ascertaining whether there is a television set there and a television licence is for the time being in force in respect of the premises or specified place authorising the keeping of a television set at the premises or specified place.

(4) An officer of an issuing agent may request any person on the premises or at the place where he or she finds a television set or evidence of such to produce the television licence for the time being in force in respect of the premises or specified place for inspection by the officer.

Who do they mean by 'an officer of an issuing agent'?-I assumed that means a licence inspector, but does it mean that if you refuse to deal with them they can then use the law to enter your home? just curious.
Anyone know?

Daithi 1 · 03-09-2011 02:43AM

Skunkle wrote: »

Come off it its enforceable by law, the ONLY reason you have to ignore the issue is because you have a TV but dont want to pay the licence. If you didnt have a TV you invite them in to see and all is fine, anything else and its common sense that your just trying to avoid paying.

I would never voulentarily invite a stranger into my property, especially one who would string me up by the balls for a small commission.
I ignore it repeatedly because I am entitled to, it's my right. I give up that right for the sake of convenience whats next.

Daithi 1 · 03-09-2011 02:45AM

Arianna_26 wrote: »

Not quite the same thing but OK. Enjoy your day in court

Night night, nice effort :pac:

Arianna_26 · 03-09-2011 02:48AM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Night night, nice effort :pac:

Wait! - that was my line - obvious troll is obvious.

Daithi 1 · 03-09-2011 02:48AM

Greentopia wrote: »

Can anyone clarify if this means that a Garda can enter your home if he/she has a warrant or can demand to see evidence of a licence-from the Broadcasting Act 2009 Section 146:

(2) A person appointed under subsection (1) shall, on his or her appointment be furnished by the issuing agent with a certificate of his or her appointment and when exercising a power conferred by subsection (3) shall, if requested by any person thereby affected, produce such certificate to that person for inspection.

(3) An officer of an issuing agent may enter at any reasonable time any premises or specified place for the purposes of ascertaining whether there is a television set there and a television licence is for the time being in force in respect of the premises or specified place authorising the keeping of a television set at the premises or specified place.

(4) An officer of an issuing agent may request any person on the premises or at the place where he or she finds a television set or evidence of such to produce the television licence for the time being in force in respect of the premises or specified place for inspection by the officer.

Who do they mean by 'an officer of an issuing agent'?-I assumed that means a licence inspector, but does it mean that if you refuse to deal with them they can then use the law to enter your home? just curious.
Anyone know?

They call them "officers" lol. They are civilians in fancy dress in reality :pac:

Temptamperu · 03-09-2011 02:49AM

Skunkle wrote: »

Come off it its enforceable by law, the ONLY reason you have to ignore the issue is because you have a TV but dont want to pay the licence. If you didnt have a TV you invite them in to see and all is fine, anything else and its common sense that your just trying to avoid paying.

I got a tv attached to an xbox i use it for video games and dvds why should i pay for a service i do not use?

Daithi 1 · 03-09-2011 02:50AM

Arianna_26 wrote: »

Wait! - that was my line - obvious troll is obvious.

It is. You made one post and legged it.

Arianna_26 · 03-09-2011 02:50AM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

It is. You made one post and legged it.

Umm, I made 2 :rolleyes:

Daithi 1 · 03-09-2011 02:52AM

Temptamperu wrote: »

I got a tv attached to an xbox i use it for video games and dvds why should i pay for a service i do not use?

This was answered. Aparently you need a license even if your tv is out of action and gathering dust in the attic.

You should read through if you really are interested, some good info there if ur genuinely interested.

If not... Arianna :P

Daithi 1 · 03-09-2011 02:52AM

Arianna_26 wrote: »

Umm, I made 2 :rolleyes:

3 now. Ok your not a troll.

Arianna_26 · 03-09-2011 02:54AM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

3 now. Ok your not a troll.

If you don't have a TV don't buy a licence. It's not rocket science is it?

MungBean · 03-09-2011 02:54AM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

I would never voulentarily invite a stranger into my property, especially one who would string me up by the balls for a small commission.
I ignore it repeatedly because I am entitled to, it's my right. I give up that right for the sake of convenience whats next.

The reason you wouldnt invite them in is because you have a TV but dont want to pay the fine.

Ive saved 5000 euro over 10 years just by know what not to say, and how to respond to these baseless threats.

The only reason you have gotten away with it is because they probably weren’t bothered prosecuting you. If they had of decided to follow it up you would be legally obliged to pay the fine that was issues when you refused to pay the licence or be sentenced to imprisonment for not doing so.

Daithi 1 · 03-09-2011 02:55AM

Arianna_26 wrote: »

If you don't have a TV don't buy a licence. It's not rocket science is it?

hence you understanding it perfectly, all on your own.

Temptamperu · 03-09-2011 02:55AM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

This was answered. Aparently you need a license even if your tv is out of action and gathering dust in the attic.

You should read through if you really are interested, some good info there if ur genuinely interested.

If not... Arianna :P

Bull**** i dont use rte i am free of there corporate agenda i will pay NOTHING

Daithi 1 · 03-09-2011 02:58AM

Skunkle wrote: »

The reason you wouldnt invite them in is because you have a TV but dont want to pay the fine.

The only reason you have gotten away with it is because they probably weren’t bothered prosecuting you. If they had of decided to follow it up you would be legally obliged to pay the fine that was issues when you refused to pay the licence or be sentenced to imprisonment for not doing so.

You genuinely belive thats the truth ? :pac:

You dont think they need all the dough they need ?

I dont voulenteer eg. police to search my personbecause I VALUE my rights. Not that I have something to hide lol

Arianna_26 · 03-09-2011 02:58AM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

hence you understanding it perfectly, all on your own.

Just so long as you understand why you are in court that's fine

MungBean · 03-09-2011 02:58AM

Temptamperu wrote: »

I got a tv attached to an xbox i use it for video games and dvds why should i pay for a service i do not use?

You shouldnt but its the law that ya have to and it is enforceable. I agree with ya and RTE should go fcuk themselves. My point is that its not a made up unenforceable law that you can get out of by refusing to discuss it.

Daithi 1 · 03-09-2011 03:00AM

Temptamperu wrote: »

Bull**** i dont use rte i am free of there corporate agenda i will pay NOTHING

Umm, I'm on your side pal lol.

But it is called a TV license, not an RTE license.

It's been posted.. read up pal:D

Arianna_26 · 03-09-2011 03:01AM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

This was answered. Aparently you need a license even if your tv is out of action and gathering dust in the attic.

You should read through if you really are interested, some good info there if ur genuinely interested.

If not... Arianna :P

I'm not understanding this sorry. What I am understanding is that your intellect is seriously lacking in that you would rather be summonsed rather than let someone have a quick look to see that you don't have a television. But whatever - you keep fighting the system, I'm sure it will work out well for you.

Daithi 1 · 03-09-2011 03:01AM

Arianna_26 wrote: »

Just so long as you understand why you are in court that's fine

Oh I wont be in court because I understand how thescam works honey, therefore I dont fall for it.
:pac:

Temptamperu · 03-09-2011 03:01AM

**** the law. it needs to be amendid

Daithi 1 · 03-09-2011 03:02AM

Arianna_26 wrote: »

I'm not understanding this sorry. What I am understanding is that your intellect is seriously lacking in that you would rather be summonsed rather than let someone have a quick look to see that you don't have a television. But whatever - you keep fighting the system, I'm sure it will work out well for you.

Read from page 1, then come back to me. :rolleyes:

Arianna_26 · 03-09-2011 03:05AM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

Read from page 1, then come back to me. :rolleyes:

Great argument :rolleyes:

MungBean · 03-09-2011 03:06AM

Daithi 1 wrote: »

You genuinely belive thats the truth ? :pac:

You dont think they need all the dough they need ?

I dont voulenteer eg. police to search my personbecause I VALUE my rights. Not that I have something to hide lol

Gardai dont need you to volunteer to search you. Its not about you valuing your rights its about you not wanting to pay the licence. And the reason you wouldnt invite the inspector in is exactly because you have something to hide, that something is proof you have a TV and are legally obliged to pay a licence for it.

Look if you dont want to pay dont pay, I couldnt give a shíte. I certainly wont lose sleep over RTE losing a few euro. But your not campaigning for rights and freedom, your trying to avoid paying for something everyone else pays for by ignoring it and hoping it goes away.

Greentopia · 03-09-2011 03:06AM

Skunkle wrote: »

If you didnt have a TV you invite them in to see and all is fine, anything else and its common sense that your just trying to avoid paying.

That's what I did (invited them in). Never heard from them again. Seems to me that if you DID have a TV and were trying to avoid paying for a licence the easiest and quickest way of getting rid of them would be to do like I did and hope they don't take you up on the offer.
Of course it helps if you actually are telling the truth and have an honest face like me

Seems like a lot of un-necessecary hassle if they keep on your case writing to you and issuing legal threats if you DON'T have a TV but want to make it difficult for them to get the information they want on a point of principle that they should not have the right to know one way or the other because you object to the licencing system, find it an intrusion on your freedom or whatever.

If the guy I dealt with is anything to go by I would imagine that they're more likely to take you at your word and write 'has no TV set' in their little notebook if you give the appearance at least of being friendly and co-operative and then invite them in to verify that you have no set.
I'd say few if any take you up on that.

If you appear unco-operative, hostile or evasive to them surely that'll only send a red flag up on their computer and they'll assume you have something to hide, and so the investigations into you begin?

Life's too short for that kind of hassle IMO. Pick your battles, and all that.

Daithi 1 · 03-09-2011 03:08AM

Arianna_26 wrote: »

Great argument :rolleyes:

It's not an arguement, it's just, everything you think your saying is revolutionary, I have already thorn to peieces shortly before your arrived. I hate repeating myself.

flutterflye · 03-09-2011 03:11AM

So.. you weren't clear - do you have a tv?

Daithi 1 · 03-09-2011 03:11AM

Greentopia wrote: »

That's what I did (invited them in). Never heard from them again. Seems to me that if you DID have a TV and were trying to avoid paying for a licence the easiest and quickest way of getting rid of them would be to do like I did and hope they don't take you up on the offer.
Of course it helps if you actually are telling the truth and have an honest face like me

Seems like a lot of un-necessecary hassle if they keep on your case writing to you and issuing legal threats if you DON'T have a TV but want to make it difficult for them to get the information they want on a point of principle that they should not have the right to know one way or the other because you object to the licencing system, find it an intrusion on your freedom or whatever.

If the guy I dealt with is anything to go by I would imagine that they're more likely to take you at your word and write 'has no TV set' in their little notebook if you give the appearance at least of being friendly and co-operative and then invite them in to verify that you have no set.
I'd say few if any take you up on that.

If you appear unco-operative, hostile or evasive to them surely that'll only send a red flag up on their computer and they'll assume you have something to hide, and so the investigations into you begin?

Life's too short for that kind of hassle IMO. Pick your battles, and all that.

Yup, each to their own eah

Tv licence - i dont own a tv..

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