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The Mystery of the Strat.

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  • #32
    Strum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭Strum


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    jimmy I think you've hit the nail on the head,it's one of them thats been modified!


    Haha, not a chance, nowhere near it. :rolleyes:

    It's maybe an early Japanese 80's copy.


  • #33
    Dord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    Take your head out of the clouds. It's not a Fender or even vaguely like a strat. Actually I think the body looks more like a Jazz bass, but it's not one of those either.


  • #34
    punchdrunk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    Strum wrote: »
    Haha, not a chance, nowhere near it. :rolleyes:

    It's maybe an early Japanese 80's copy.

    nowhere near it?

    6074297189_881c8ae254_z.jpg
    guitar by mechanicalapple, on Flickr

    same bridge
    same tailpiece
    same pickup (only one pickup,pickguard mounted)
    http://www.cloudyproject.com/potting-teisco-pickups/
    (your pickupcovers plating is gone)
    same pickguard mounted Volume,Tone,Jack arrangement with no switching

    these guitars are both Teiscos of a similar vintage maybe a couple of years apart (which accounts for the different shape to the body horns,but using hardware from the same production line)


  • #35
    novarock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,132 ✭✭✭novarock


    its looking like its definitely 60's japanese anyway.. But not of any value. even the ones one ebay in perfect condition go for around 100 euro.

    Please put up a better photo of the headstock. Its 100% not a strat copy, without doubt! the lads responding above are experts!

    I still very seriously think you should put it back. Its of no real value to you, but could be of extreme sentimental value to someone else.


  • #36
    Dord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    novarock wrote: »

    I still very seriously think you should put it back. Its of no real value to you, but could be of extreme sentimental value to someone else.

    Exactly! you don't want to anger the gods of rock n' roll! :eek:


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  • #37
    Parsley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Parsley


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    nowhere near it?

    6074297189_881c8ae254_z.jpg
    guitar by mechanicalapple, on Flickr

    same bridge
    same tailpiece
    same pickup (only one pickup,pickguard mounted)
    http://www.cloudyproject.com/potting-teisco-pickups/
    (your pickupcovers plating is gone)
    same pickguard mounted Volume,Tone,Jack arrangement with no switching

    these guitars are both Teiscos of a similar vintage maybe a couple of years apart (which accounts for the different shape to the body horns,but using hardware from the same production line)

    completely different body shape!


  • #38
    Strum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭Strum


    novarock wrote: »

    I still very seriously think you should put it back. Its of no real value to you, but could be of extreme sentimental value to someone else.



    Honestly Nova If it had been put there deliberately as a memorial or something like that I would have been reluctant to take it but like I said in an earlier post, it wasn't there two weeks before that photo but it has been in the River a long time. A massive tree crossing the River had been cut down about a week before I saw it so I reckon years ago somebody threw it over the Bridge into the River and when the tree was cut down I reckon one of the workers found it in the River and tied it to the wall.


  • #39
    Strum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭Strum


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    nowhere near it?

    same bridge
    same tailpiece
    same pickup (only one pickup,pickguard mounted)
    http://www.cloudyproject.com/potting-teisco-pickups/
    (your pickupcovers plating is gone)
    same pickguard mounted Volume,Tone,Jack arrangement with no switching

    these guitars are both Teiscos of a similar vintage maybe a couple of years apart (which accounts for the different shape to the body horns,but using hardware from the same production line)




    Ok they have similariities and it was also mentioned on a Fender site that it might be a Teisco as you say.

    I'm curious about the hole in the middle of the pickguard. Do you reckon it might have had a surface mounted pickup there? But there are no screw holes to secure it?


  • #40
    Strum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭Strum


    novarock wrote: »
    Please put up a better photo of the headstock.



    Will do.


    Its 100% not a strat copy, without doubt! the lads responding above are experts!



    Ok thanks.


  • #41
    punchdrunk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    Strum wrote: »
    Ok they have similariities and it was also mentioned on a Fender site that it might be a Teisco as you say.

    I'm curious about the hole in the middle of the pickguard. Do you reckon it might have had a surface mounted pickup there? But there are no screw holes to secure it?

    because there's no pickup switch for selecting different pickups my guess is it was always a one pickup guitar
    but I'd guess the pickup was originally located in the neck (hence the hole) and at some point it was moved back towards the bridge for a more lead guitar sound as apposed to having a pickup in the neck which you'd largely consider a more rhythm guitar sound

    if you take the pickguard off you should see something like this
    channel.jpg

    which would have been the channel for running the cable through to the main control cavity


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  • #42
    Strum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 181 ✭✭Strum


    punchdrunk wrote: »
    because there's no pickup switch for selecting different pickups my guess is it was always a one pickup guitar
    but I'd guess the pickup was originally located in the neck (hence the hole) and at some point it was moved back towards the bridge for a more lead guitar sound as apposed to having a pickup in the neck which you'd largely consider a more rhythm guitar sound

    if you take the pickguard off you should see something like this
    channel.jpg

    which would have been the channel for running the cable through to the main control cavity




    Aha. Thanks for that. I'm going to disassemble it over the weekend. Cheers. :D


  • #43
    Doc_Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 677 ✭✭✭Doc_Savage


    If you do restore it, it would be a cool story.
    "Where'd you get that guitar?"
    "Found it in a river!"


  • #44
    RC88
    Closed Accounts Posts: 212 ✭✭RC88


    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtPliqJKDVO-agYfhrS3dNXfcsx1NtvbJ8xC8_f2kmFtfFEldvimages?q=tbn:ANd9GcSsYMJy-R30aQdbQ_KJBkac1kis3lBiHC7_ezAsNFPIKTdSzh3sAg

    the body and pickguard resemble a hofner galaxie(1st one)/or a 175(second one) to me, plus the bridge seems to fit as well, but then dont forget the water might have warped it into the shape it is now so i might be wrong


  • #45
    captain a
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 ✭captain a


    Hi strum, i was just leafing through your facebook pictures there. i'd like to add the speculative theory that its actually two guitars. the way the neck fits into the body, from the facebook pictures it looks like there is a few millimeters mismatch on either side.


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