Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread.

Tomtom364 · 22-08-2011 03:12PM

It was confirmed somewhere that hayes is Contracted on with munster till the end of the WC

But with Horan staying at Munster aswell we mightnt have any need for him so he may well not feature. but i think the experience/senioroity might be called upon.

Edit:

buceph wrote:

14. Doug HowlettProbably should be captain. The best player in the team.

3. John Hayes This is the only place I strongly disagree with you. Mixing Archer with Horan would be the right thing to bring people up to speed. And Hayes is fla'ed anyway. Let him provide cover and go out without killing himself

4. Mick O'Driscoll If Dougie isn't captain then it's going to be Micko. Although he has a big fight on his hands. With DOC in poor form it's up to Micko to take his place, and that's with Nagle chomping at the bit to move up the ranks

17. Stephen Archer I'd have him starting ahead of Hayes. Really aggressive. Probably the most noticeable on the pitch of our newer forwards. Really gets the hard yards.

As buceph pointed out, mixing archer with Horan actually does sound like a solid idea. So ya go with that.

On the captaincy issue. I feel It will go to micko, then coughlan (deservedly), then howlett. Though at the weekend It was P O'Mahony that was captain ahead of Dougie.

CatFromHue · 22-08-2011 04:43PM

Tomtom364 wrote: »

It was confirmed somewhere that hayes is Contracted on with munster till the end of the WC

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/9152.php

"Munster announced their squad on Tuesday for the coming season and while it did not include John Hayes the 206 times capped prop, he is contracted until the end of the Rugby World Cup."

So he is not gone yet.

Also Botha is out injured for a month
http://planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3825_7118000,00.html

Flincher · 22-08-2011 04:58PM

I would think Hayes will stick around to cover Botha for the month, probably behind Borlase and Archer.

du Preez, Horan and Hurley would cover loosehead.

EDIT: I'd love if Hayes was to get his last game in Thomond Park, could well be against the Ospreys in early October. I'd probably cry big manly tears.

PhatPiggins · 22-08-2011 05:06PM

Flincher wrote: »

I would think Hayes will stick around to cover Botha for the month, probably behind Borlase and Archer.

du Preez, Horan and Hurley would cover loosehead.

Last I heard Borlase had been sent back to Christchurch to be used as landfill in some of the quake affected areas

Monty Burnz · 22-08-2011 05:34PM

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Last I heard Borlase had been sent back to Christchurch to be used as landfill in some of the quake affected areas

In which case I think we can predict further collapses in Christchurch.

PhatPiggins · 22-08-2011 05:50PM

Monty Burnz wrote: »

In which case I think we can predict further collapses in Christchurch.

:pac::pac::pac:

He's in much demand. The Japanese were keen to get him over, 20 stone sand bags are like gold dust over there.

phog · 23-08-2011 05:38PM

Munster's squads for their two games in TP on Friday.

Munster: D Hurley, JJ Hanrahan, D Howlett, S Deasy, T Gleeson, S Scanlon, Simon Zebo, D Barnes, L Mafi, T O'Leary, D Williams, P Stringer, I Keatley, D Cusack, W du Preez, S Archer, M Horan, P Borlase, M Sherry, D Varley, D Fogarty, I Nagle, D Foley, M O'Driscoll, B Holland, D O'Callaghan, N Ronan, T O'Donnell, P O'Mahony, P Butler, J Coughlan,

Munster A: D Kilcoyne, J Ryan, S Henry, J Cronin, C Condon (Dolphin), P Donnellan (UCC), Liam Og Murphy (Young Munster), B Hayes, B O'Hara, C Sheridan, G Quinn-McDonogh, C Hircock, G Hurley (Cork Con), L O'Dea, I Dineen, R O'Mahony.

Cookiemunster · 23-08-2011 11:27PM

Flincher wrote: »

I would think Hayes will stick around to cover Botha for the month, probably behind Borlase and Archer.
du Preez, Horan and Hurley would cover loosehead.

EDIT: I'd love if Hayes was to get his last game in Thomond Park, could well be against the Ospreys in early October. I'd probably cry big manly tears.

He's not gone yet. This was in the article announging the squads for Friday
"John Hayes does not feature in the squad, he's been given the week off, but he will resume training with Munster on Monday."

Fishtits · 24-08-2011 12:03AM

Its unfortunate but understandable that the Bull won't take the limelight.

He has been the greatest role model bar none in Irish rugby IMHO.

Shut up & get on with it. Traditional values.

Go well Bull, and thanks for the memories.

phog · 24-08-2011 07:01PM

Double header news from Munsterrugby.ie:

Match Day Info - Thomond Park Double Header24 August 2011, 3:47 pmBy The EditorMunster commence their Thomond Park season on Friday August 26th with a double header clash against Connacht A and London Irish. Get twice the action with the your match ticket and show your support on the day.

"A" Challenge Munster v Connacht, ko 4.15pm & Pre-season Munster v London Irish, ko 7pm, Friday 26th August.

Tickets
Tickets are still available for this game and can be bought online here, or from the ticket offices in Cork & Limerick. Tickets will be available to purchase on match day.

Ticket sales and collections will be available from the Ticket Office in the East Stand from 10am on Friday.

Ticket sales and MRSC collections will also be available from the Ticket cabin at the West Stand from 4pm.

There will be cash turnstiles at both sides of the ground selling both Stand and Terrace tickets.

Tickets will admit supporters to the earlier “A” game, ko 4.15pm, and supporters will be permitted to exit and re-enter the stadium for the London Irish game.

Munster V LI

Munster: S Scanlon; D Howlett, D Barnes, L Mafi, D Hurley; I Keatley, D Williams; M Horan, M Sherry, S Archer; M O’Driscoll, I Nagle; B Holland, N Ronan, P O’Mahony. Replacements: D Varley, W du Preez, P Borlase, D O’Mahony, P Stringer, S Zebo, S Deasy.

Munster A V Connacht

Butler Leads Munster A

24 August 2011, 5:18 pmBy The Editor

Paddy Butler will lead the Munster A side that takes on Connacht in Thomond park Stadium on Friday 94.15pm). Share
It's the first game of the season for the Ian Costello coached side whose British & Irish Cup campaign starts in November with the game against Cornish Pirates, the side that beat Munster in the inaugural B&I Cup final.
Gerry Hurley and Declan Cusack form the half back combination, as they did in La Rochelle two weeks ago, in a Munster starting XV that includes club player Phillip Donnellan (Cork Con), and Academy members Ronan O'Mahony, Cory Hircock,JJ Hanrahan, Luke O'Dea, Dave Kilcoyne, Shane Buckley and Brian O'Hara.

Munster A: (v Connacht, Thomond Park Stadium 4.15pm). R O’Mahony; C Hircock, JJ Hanrahan, T Gleeson, L O’Dea; D Cusack, G Hurley; D Kilcoyne, D Fogarty, J Ryan; D Foley, P Donnellan (Cork Con); S Buckley, B O’Hara, P Butler captain. Replacements: S Henry, J Cronin, C Condon (Dolphin), B Hayes, J Shine (Bruff), C Sheridan, G Quinn-McDonagh, D Moroney (UL Bohemians)..

PhatPiggins · 24-08-2011 07:40PM

Did Sean Scanlon not get cut from the squad in May?

profitius · 24-08-2011 07:56PM

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Did Sean Scanlon not get cut from the squad in May?

I think hes on a development contract. He looked a good player whenever I've seen him play and he could be needed now because of Jones' injury.

phog · 24-08-2011 10:20PM

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Did Sean Scanlon not get cut from the squad in May?

I dont really know but he's listed on this season's squad on munster rugby.

PhatPiggins · 25-08-2011 11:03AM

profitius wrote: »

I think hes on a development contract. He looked a good player whenever I've seen him play and he could be needed now because of Jones' injury.

Yeah I was very surprised he was cut. We've hardly an abundance of pacey and creative back 3 players. Good luck to him, he'll get a decent shot with Wawrich gone and Jones broken. What are the other 15 options Hurley/Murphy/Deasy?

chancer12 · 25-08-2011 03:41PM

See in the team selection for Sat that Earls is no 13. He really needed a good run at 11, what is Kidney thinking of? This will put him under even more pressure to try and get his jersey back from Trimble who seems to be coaches fav. Tough on McFadden also

Amazotheamazing · 25-08-2011 03:50PM

chancer12 wrote: »

See in the team selection for Sat that Earls is no 13. He really needed a good run at 11, what is Kidney thinking of? This will put him under even more pressure to try and get his jersey back from Trimble who seems to be coaches fav. Tough on McFadden also

Has to be what's best for the team overall, not what's best for Earls personally. Right now Trimble is playing better as a winger than Earls is, the RWC is about form, not about long term planning.

profitius · 25-08-2011 04:15PM

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Yeah I was very surprised he was cut. We've hardly an abundance of pacey and creative back 3 players. Good luck to him, he'll get a decent shot with Wawrich gone and Jones broken. What are the other 15 options Hurley/Murphy/Deasy?

Thats all. Luke O'Dea is a fullback in the academy alright. Scanlon could be better than the lot of them. I'd like to see a bit more of him.

phog · 25-08-2011 04:28PM

PhatPiggins wrote: »

Yeah I was very surprised he was cut. We've hardly an abundance of pacey and creative back 3 players. Good luck to him, he'll get a decent shot with Wawrich gone and Jones broken. What are the other 15 options Hurley/Murphy/Deasy?

Of those 3 Hurley wuld be my choice, I think Deasy had his chance and may have blown it.

Would like to see Scanlon get a chance to prove himself, so tomorrow may be the start he needs.

Amazotheamazing · 25-08-2011 04:44PM

Scanlon was good for the A team in the bits I've seen of him but he was poor enough for Con, iirc, in the play-off last year.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 26-08-2011 04:08PM

does anyone have a good source for updates of the Munster A Connacht A match.

I know Connacht led 14-9 at HT from the munster rugby twitter

PhatPiggins · 26-08-2011 04:41PM

phog wrote: »

Of those 3 Hurley wuld be my choice, I think Deasy had his chance and may have blown it.

Would like to see Scanlon get a chance to prove himself, so tomorrow may be the start he needs.

Best of a bad bunch. I think Hurley looks far more comfortable on the wing myself. He seems to lose confidence at full back when things are going against him.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 26-08-2011 04:44PM

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/news/9303.php

Final score Munster 22 Conacht 20

GerM · 26-08-2011 05:03PM

That's an exceptionally young Connacht pack. Great to see so much home grown talent in that pack and a lot of them very impressive whenever I've seen them.

porterbelly · 26-08-2011 05:03PM

Munster win 22-20 with a try deep into injury time from Tom Gleeson converted by JJ Hanrahan. Not a bad effort from a very young Connacht academy side.

porterbelly · 26-08-2011 05:05PM

Connacht have try disallowed with last play of the game from Mark Dolan as ref called for offside. Controversial to say the least

porterbelly · 26-08-2011 05:12PM

GerM wrote: »

That's an exceptionally young Connacht pack. Great to see so much home grown talent in that pack and a lot of them very impressive whenever I've seen them.

6 of the pack are u20, Maguire is just out of 20's as is Dermot Murphy

thomond2006 · 26-08-2011 06:59PM

Munster A beat Connacht A 22-20. Last minute try from Gleeson, converted by JJ Hanrahan won it for Munster.

3-0 at halftime between Munster and LI.

thomond2006 · 26-08-2011 07:39PM

11-3 to Munster, nearing the final whistle.

thomond2006 · 26-08-2011 07:46PM

11-10 FT, London Irish got a last minute try off a 5m scrum. Munster got a few yellow cards apparently.

Sabre0001 · 26-08-2011 08:33PM

Three yellow cards - clearly haven't learned! Good defence though, some nice running lines and plenty of offloading in the tackle. Keatley looked sharp, pace picked up when Stringer was brought on. Hopefully we won't hear anything on the injury front, but Nagle went down twice (and pretty sure he stayed off second time) and Peter O'Mahony also went off but came back.

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