Gay couple kicked out of bar for kissing on the dancefloor

TylerIE · 23-08-2011 11:14PM

end a eknny wrote: »

right i am a married man. i dont eat the face of my wife or indulge in big pda's despite the fact that i love my wife. why well its simple really pda's are not for the couples benifit they are for the publics benifit. so if some of the public maybe offended should they be stopped are was the act simply to offend the public.if they had taken their tools out and started give each other a handjob would you throw them out then where do you draw the line

Young[er] people in a bar traditionally do kiss, its a common activity. If it was any mix of genders at a kids matinee or during the day at a family restaurant then perhaps it would be acceptable to ask them to stop kissing. In a pub, straight couples are often allowed kiss, if a gay couple is merely kissing, then they too should be afforded the same respect a straight couple would have.

The line can be drawn wherever it is for straight couples, although IMHO that would and should prohibit public sexual activities such as you suggest. A PDA such as a kiss, hug or cuddle, or holding hands, would be reasonable.

end a eknny wrote: »

its a bit **** you cant stop pda's by gays. you cant ban travellers so basically if you own a bar you have to cater for the minority while you watch your customers dissappear and your buisness go down the swanny

I dont know if your trying to insult travellers or gay people or both or neither.... I dont know if this point is worth exploring for fear of raising even more prejudicial and discriminatory points.

Your point re it being awful not being able to ban gay PDAs negates your point about you and your wife.

Pace2008 · 23-08-2011 11:15PM

end a eknny wrote: »

are people afraid to admit that if they were out drinking that they woudnt want to see two men kissing.because i definetly wouldnt.

Diddums.

I don't particularly like the sight of men kissing either, as I would not find fat or ugly people meeting each other particularly aesthetically pleasing.

I suck it up and get over it as you should too, you child.

Also,. what sort of square nightclubs/Christian Youth Meets are you all going to where you'd get kicked out for getting a wear???

lastlaugh · 23-08-2011 11:17PM

end a eknny wrote: »

its a bit **** you cant stop pda's by gays. you cant ban travellers so basically if you own a bar you have to cater for the minority while you watch your customers dissappear and your buisness go down the swanny

I can see where you are coming from.

I imagine they were dancing outrageously and flaunting their sexuality.
Good for them, but realistically, society has not 'progressed' enough for it to be generally accepted. I can see how seeing men dance and kiss could be quite off putting to some and especially to a Pub owner who doesn't want the place becoming known as a Gay Club.
Pehaps they were trying to make a public point of the fact they are gay to their fellow college goers. Maybe they just couldn't control themselves even after being warned.

Realistically, this would not happen or be allowed to happen in most Pubs.

Surely the Landlord or Pub owner should have some say regarding House Rules?

If they want to get off with each other should they not just go to a Gay Bar?

Logical Fallacy · 23-08-2011 11:19PM

lastlaugh wrote: »

Surely the Landlord or Pub owner should have some say regarding House Rules?

Bit of a silly point there, read up about licensing laws then come back to the thread.

For homework i want you to write an essay on the cause and effect nature of posting dumb **** on the internet and feeling shame after you masturbate.

Pace2008 · 23-08-2011 11:21PM

lastlaugh wrote: »

If they want to get off with each other should they not just go to a Gay Bar?

Or down the back of the bus.

TylerIE · 23-08-2011 11:23PM

lastlaugh wrote: »

I can see where you are coming from.

I imagine they were dancing outrageously and flaunting their sexuality.
Good for them, but realistically, society has not 'progressed' enough for it to be generally accepted. I can see how seeing men dance and kiss could be quite off putting to some and especially to a Pub owner who doesn't want the place becoming known as a Gay Club.
Pehaps they were trying to make a public point of the fact they are gay to their fellow college goers. Maybe they just couldn't control themselves even after being warned.

Realistically, this would not happen or be allowed to happen in most Pubs.

Surely the Landlord or Pub owner should have some say regarding House Rules?

If they want to get off with each other should they not just go to a Gay Bar?

Great that you witnessed this and knew what they were at.

Interesting that you feel one should be able to ban people for dancing outrageously?

So just because society doesnt accept it it should not be allowed? In the US abolition of slavery wasnt exactly popular... Nor was allowing mixed race marriage - but equality demanded it.

The local district court could have something to say regarding house rules if any pub decides to discriminate against people on the grounds of age/gender/sexual orientation/ethnic origin / religion etc. Maybe you feel they should have stimulation tests at the door to ensure none of the gheys get in?

Great to see the old "keep the gays hidden" brigade is still alive and well.

krudler · 23-08-2011 11:24PM

My name is URL wrote: »

I've seen straight people get kicked out of bars for eating the faces of each other. Is it not a rule in loads of nightclubs that there's to be no kissing on the dance-floor?

If it was people wouldnt go to nightclubs, Coppers would close down :pac:

TheZohanS · 23-08-2011 11:27PM

Shure we all know what lads are like given half the chance after a few jars, and there were two of them!!

Underpants over eyes, Scooby Dooooo how are youuuuu!!!!!

KnifeWRENCH · 23-08-2011 11:27PM

Nevore wrote: »

I don't give a fúck about the gays or the pub but the use of the acronym "PDA" is disgusting. It's right up there with "other half"...
That is all. :mad:

I don't mind it, seeing it always reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA5xtHxfiTI

CHOOOOOON!

krudler · 23-08-2011 11:28PM

end a eknny wrote: »

its a bit **** you cant stop pda's by gays. you cant ban travellers so basically if you own a bar you have to cater for the minority while you watch your customers dissappear and your buisness go down the swanny

There's a place you could go that would suit your views just fine, the 1950's perhaps.

Worried you might catch the gay off someone if you see two men kissing?

Coriolanus · 23-08-2011 11:28PM

KnifeWRENCH wrote: »

I don't mind it, seeing it always reminds me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA5xtHxfiTI

CHOOOOOON!

Hmm, nice tune. But still! :mad:

krudler · 23-08-2011 11:30PM

end a eknny wrote: »

unless you were one of the couple then you dont know what their intentions were while kissing

same as a straight couple, get the shift then home and ride each other senseless probably

lastlaugh · 23-08-2011 11:32PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Bit of a silly point there, read up about licensing laws then come back to the thread..

I really couldn't be arsed reading up on licensing laws, but I'll stay in the thread thanks Boss.
The place wasn't a Gay Bar. End of.
If they want to get off with each other, go to a Gay Bar.

Regarding your 'silly point', wasn't as silly as your below post doncha think?

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

No ****, you're married, you haven't seen a vagina since your honeymoon.

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

For homework i want you to write an essay on the cause and effect nature of posting dumb **** on the internet and feeling shame after you masturbate.

Hmmm.

boomkatalog · 23-08-2011 11:35PM

Have to laugh at people being put of by same sex kissers, I don't particularly like seeing a guy and girl ate the face off each other in a dark corner of a nightclub either!

Same thing happened at home only nobody batted an eye lid, I only heard about it because the local lads were having a laugh about it. Oh the scandal of two guys being in love in a small town... :rolleyes:

Presumably its just a kiss, I don't get what the fuss was about. If everyone kissing on the dancefloor was being thrown out, fair enough but then pubs wouldn't get much business if they did that.

jill_valentine · 23-08-2011 11:35PM

lst wrote: »

Great to see the old "keep the gays hidden" brigade is still alive and well.

You've just given me my first million quid idea.

Ladies and Gentlemen, step right up to be among the first to possess my new invention, the Gay Cosy. It's like a Tea Cosy, or one of those things mental old ladies used to put over the toilet roll - a kind of giant woolly hat that can fit two people and their roving elbows, as they shift the faces off each other.

Everybody will know what's happening under the cosy, obviously, but at least they can pretend otherwise. Everybody wins, and aul wans will finally have something to knit again.

This recession won't know what hit it, I swear to God.

jill_valentine · 23-08-2011 11:35PM

Just thought, we can do them in Aran wool too, for the tourists.

Paparazzo · 23-08-2011 11:40PM

end a eknny wrote: »

right i am a married man. i dont eat the face of my wife or indulge in big pda's despite the fact that i love my wife. why well its simple really pda's are not for the couples benifit they are for the publics benifit. so if some of the public maybe offended should they be stopped are was the act simply to offend the public.if they had taken their tools out and started give each other a handjob would you throw them out then where do you draw the line

Just because when you kiss someone it always leads to you giving them a handjob, doesn't mean everyone else does.

Laisurg · 23-08-2011 11:44PM

I'm very surprised at the amount of people who think a straight couple would be booted from a bar for kissing, have you ever seen any get kicked out for this in a pub or club? Cause i certainly havn't.
In fact if the pub is in any way busy then I pretty much always see people kissing.
Maybe in a remote rural pub where the majority of people would be 50 and up it could cause a stir but that's about really.
The bouncer was obviously a homophobe unless he thought it would cause the other people in the club to get aggressive with the two lads which is possible i suppose.

AFC_1903 · 23-08-2011 11:51PM

lst wrote: »

OT but no venue Ive ever had an involvement with (And theres many) has EVER driven a casualty to hospital, so thats no excuse. EVER! And over the course of about 6 years Iv had dozens of clubs, and hundreds of hospitalizations stemming from nightclubs.

Maybe you should drink less, that can't be good for your health! :pac:

lastlaugh · 23-08-2011 11:52PM

lst wrote: »

Great that you witnessed this and knew what they were at.

It is pure speculation on my behalf, can you enlighten me as to 'what they were at'?

lst wrote: »

Interesting that you feel one should be able to ban people for dancing outrageously?

You are of course misquoting me and trying to make me out as some kind of gay hater type. I was saying they were probably dancing outrageously and flaunting their sexuality, and I can see how this would become an unwanted specticle and potentially 'bad for publicity'. I also commented earlier that I believe society has not 'progressed' enough to view this as acceptable. That's just the way it is for now.

lst wrote: »

The local district court could have something to say regarding house rules if any pub decides to discriminate against people on the grounds of age/gender/sexual orientation/ethnic origin / religion etc. Maybe you feel they should have stimulation tests at the door to ensure none of the gheys get in?

Sounds interesting.

lst wrote: »

Great to see the old "keep the gays hidden" brigade is still alive and well.

:rolleyes:

Logical Fallacy · 23-08-2011 11:54PM

lastlaugh wrote: »

I really couldn't be arsed reading up on licensing laws, but I'll stay in the thread thanks Boss.
The place wasn't a Gay Bar. End of.
If they want to get off with each other, go to a Gay Bar.

No real point in having this discussion with someone who expresses ignorance of licensing laws and then refuses to check them out. You appear to be having legitmate issues in distinguishing between personal preference and enforceable law that does not transgress established anti-discrimination policy so, as the blind man said to the screwdriver, there's **** all i can do with you.

I can tell by your use of "end of" that you are both a reasoned and logical individual, so clearly the original impression i had that you are a cretin is incorrect. (In some universe maybe).

Regarding your 'silly point', wasn't as silly as your below post doncha think?

Hmmm.

Clearly, i don't think so. Once again, your illustrious failure to understand what is really happening is most disheartening. Also, only ghey's use smiley faces there Penfold.

lastlaugh · 23-08-2011 11:57PM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

No real point in having this discussion with someone who expresses ignorance of licensing laws and then refuses to check them out. You appear to be having legitmate issues in distinguishing between personal preference and enforceable law that does not transgress established anti-discrimination policy so, as the blind man said to the screwdriver, there's **** all i can do with you.

I can tell by your use of "end of" that you are both a reasoned and logical individual, so clearly the original impression i had that you are a cretin is incorrect. (In some universe maybe).

Clearly, i don't think so. Once again, your illustrious failure to understand what is really happening is most disheartening. Also, only ghey's use smiley faces there Penfold.

Logical Fallacy · 23-08-2011 11:57PM

lastlaugh wrote: »

:eek:

lastlaugh · 24-08-2011 12:05AM

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

No real point in having this discussion with someone who expresses ignorance of licensing laws and then refuses to check them out. You appear to be having legitmate issues in distinguishing between personal preference and enforceable law that does not transgress established anti-discrimination policy so, as the blind man said to the screwdriver, there's **** all i can do with you.

I can tell by your use of "end of" that you are both a reasoned and logical individual, so clearly the original impression i had that you are a cretin is incorrect. (In some universe maybe).

Clearly, i don't think so. Once again, your illustrious failure to understand what is really happening is most disheartening. Also, only ghey's use smiley faces there Penfold.

No need to get so nasty.

Is there a particular post I added that has offended you in some way?

hatrickpatrick · 24-08-2011 12:05AM

Can I point something else out:
The dancefloor is for dancing on. It's very possible that any couple would be asked to stop or get off the dancefloor if they were scoring, for the same reason as they'd be asked to get off it if they had a drink in their hand. It's dangerous for themselves and others on a dancefloor is everyone is jumping around and one couple are standing still on it. The potential for someone to inadvertently get bashed is huge, and when that happens, a proper drunken fight could develop.

Most clubs will ask you to get off the dancefloor if you stop to text or something like that, it's usually "either dance or go to another part of the room"

sean1141 · 24-08-2011 12:09AM

have to laugh at all the people giving out about the 'bouncers'. if the two lads happened to be set upon the same people would be complaining that they should have done something to prevent it!! i bet not one of ye has ever worked as security in a pub/club.

Laisurg · 24-08-2011 12:10AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Can I point something else out:
The dancefloor is for dancing on. It's very possible that any couple would be asked to stop or get off the dancefloor if they were scoring, for the same reason as they'd be asked to get off it if they had a drink in their hand. It's dangerous for themselves and others on a dancefloor is everyone is jumping around and one couple are standing still on it. The potential for someone to inadvertently get bashed is huge, and when that happens, a proper drunken fight could develop.

Most clubs will ask you to get off the dancefloor if you stop to text or something like that, it's usually "either dance or go to another part of the room"

Never been asked to get off the dance floor for any of those things or seen anyone who has.

Sonics2k · 24-08-2011 12:27AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Can I point something else out:
The dancefloor is for dancing on. It's very possible that any couple would be asked to stop or get off the dancefloor if they were scoring, for the same reason as they'd be asked to get off it if they had a drink in their hand. It's dangerous for themselves and others on a dancefloor is everyone is jumping around and one couple are standing still on it. The potential for someone to inadvertently get bashed is huge, and when that happens, a proper drunken fight could develop.

Most clubs will ask you to get off the dancefloor if you stop to text or something like that, it's usually "either dance or go to another part of the room"

I've never ever seen a straight couple to get off the dance floor just for kissing.
I have in my time asked people to get off the dance floor if they are blatantly very drunk, aggressive, not dancing or getting extremely sexual.

sean1141 have to laugh at all the people giving out about the 'bouncers'. if the two lads happened to be set upon the same people would be complaining that they should have done something to prevent it!! i bet not one of ye has ever worked as security in a pub/club.

I do work as a doorman, and security jobs. So do my cousin and uncle.

u mad?

desertcircus · 24-08-2011 12:45AM

TheZohan wrote: »

Enjoy your strawman.

Calling something a strawman doesn't make it so. I'm at a loss as to where the analogy breaks down or where I misrepresent what you said.

Cianos · 24-08-2011 12:47AM

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Most clubs will ask you to get off the dancefloor if you stop to text or something like that.

No they don't.

Gay couple kicked out of bar for kissing on the dancefloor

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