Advertisement
Help Keep Boards Alive. Support us by going ad free today. See here: https://subscriptions.boards.ie/.
https://www.boards.ie/group/1878-subscribers-forum

Private Group for paid up members of Boards.ie. Join the club.
Hi all, please see this major site announcement: https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058427594/boards-ie-2026

Unionists are at it again

1356710

Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 261 ✭✭fergpie


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    It could offend some people because it has clubs named after people who had been in the PIRA.

    What clubs are these?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭GAAman


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    I always thought Tesco was for everyone. The last thing a Unionist wants to see is the GAA begging for money and money being pumped into Kevin Lynch's Hurling Club.

    Your ignorance is well known in this forum, but this has proven your hypocrisy knows no bounds. Orange order marchers offend me, but year after year you will see them in shops (Tesco if i recall correctly) buying their drink in uniform, do you see me complaining? No you do not, because firstly i am not petty and secondly as you have said Tesco is for EVERYONE not just everyone YOU agree with.

    Oh and as for begging, they are providing a free service, you can donate money if you wish, unless they have signs claiming to be homeless it is not begging.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Its like Colonel Gaddafi calling Saddam Hussein a mad dictator


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    GAAman wrote: »
    Your ignorance is well known in this forum, but this has proven your hypocrisy knows no bounds. Orange order marchers offend me, but year after year you will see them in shops (Tesco if i recall correctly) buying their drink in uniform, do you see me complaining? No you do not, because firstly i am not petty and secondly as you have said Tesco is for EVERYONE not just everyone YOU agree with.

    Oh and as for begging, they are providing a free service, you can donate money if you wish, unless they have signs claiming to be homeless it is not begging.
    There was me thinking Tesco was a shop to go buy groceries. The GAA using Tesco to get money and pump money into clubs named after people who had been in the IRA is completely different.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    GAA has plenty of muppets.
    DUP has plenty of muppets.

    Match made in heaven.
    Show Time wrote: »
    The gaa and the orange order a marriage of bigots made in heaven.

    :rolleyes:

    Sweet Lord. A firm 'fail' on this pseudo-intellectual attempt to equate the most dynamic, organised and progressive sporting or cultural organisation in Ireland - by any objective standard - with a party which, while of late showing signs (relatively speaking) of decency, is inherently sectarian and promotes regressiveness and bigotry rather than health.

    Every single community in nationalist Ireland benefits from the GAA. It, and its huge numbers of volunteers, is usually the principal organisation promoting community spirit and identity. It is also the chief source of sporting activity and community cohesiveness behind the local parish. Where kids could be smashing things up, the GAA helps to keep them focused on healthier goals. In this regard alone, its financial value to society is enormous. The GAA promotes all that is positive, healthy and unique about Irish identity and culture (that people have issues with Irish culture is really their problem).

    The same cannot be said for the influence of the DUP or the Orange Order within the unionist community. What proud, positively-defined, healthy, forward-looking cultural values does the DUP or OO promote in their localities? It's like comparing apples and oranges (appropriately enough).

    I'm all for bashing the GAA, if only because they are powerful and influential and all organisations with those characteristics should be watched critically. There are, however, intelligent ways of doing this. Comparing the GAA with the Orange Order/DUP is quite frankly dim. :o


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    To be honest with a lot of things that come out from the dup I cant tell wheter they are geniunly worried about people being offended or wheter they just hate all things Irish, catholic or whatever. Much like when the bnp say something its pretty hard to sort out the bigotry from the politics. For all I know the gaa collecters were mistaken for "gay" collecters which the dup arent fond of either.

    Exhibit A: Former Dup member jim allister, look at the hate in his face!


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxG9tc1qnQg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Traitorous Tesco joining forces with GAA in evil republican terrorist funding conspiracy keith?


    Watch the video "GAA - IRA at play?" on youtube, so retarded its funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,012 ✭✭✭kincsem


    Dionysus wrote: »
    Sweet Lord. A firm 'fail' on this pseudo-intellectual attempt to equate the most dynamic, organised and progressive sporting or cultural organisation in Ireland - by any objective standard .....
    I'm 61 and have seen the GAA in action for a while. I do not agree with you. The opposite of what you say is, in my opinion, nearer the truth.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    So to recap, KeithAFC Makes money by 'Blowing Flutes' :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    Some of the DUP are really just comedians, I think they only complain half the time just to give us a laugh.


  • Advertisement
  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,565 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    So to recap, KeithAFC Makes money by 'Blowing Flutes' :o

    The dup wouldnt be too happy with that considering how they viewed the gay pride marchs.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭flash1080


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    There was me thinking Tesco was a shop to go buy groceries. The GAA using Tesco to get money and pump money into clubs named after people who had been in the IRA is completely different.

    I reckon €0 of the money fundraised by Bryansford Ladies GAA team was pumped into the club you're talking about. Are you really that offended because there is a club named after on of the 1981 Hunger Strikers, a man who died in his effort to re-establish political status for Republican prisoners? There's probably a lot of countries that you'll never visit in your life because they named streets after another one of those Hunger Strikers. I feel pity for you more than anything.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 33,055 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    There was me thinking Tesco was a shop to go buy groceries. The GAA using Tesco to get money and pump money into clubs named after people who had been in the IRA is completely different.

    Bag packing is a very common way for clubs to raise money, not just GAA clubs. I don't see why a local sports club can't try and raise money at their local tesco just because their club is named after a dead person. Chances are they just want to spend the money on balls and jerseys rather than AK-47s to go shooting protestants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭The Scientician


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    I always get a good laugh at the DUP, they come out with a huge amount of utter bigoted sh!te, if its not bashing taigs its labeling gays as "repugnant".

    It'd be a bigger laugh they'd get from me if they weren't the biggest party in Northern Ireland. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,370 ✭✭✭GAAman


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    There was me thinking Tesco was a shop to go buy groceries. The GAA using Tesco to get money and pump money into clubs named after people who had been in the IRA is completely different.

    Firstly the GAA is using Tesco like i use Latin, which is to say not at all. The club raises money on its own behalf, it approaches Tesco to make a request.

    As for the point made by the dup that it takes money from "real charities" well the GAA never claims to be a charity, and i have sat here trying to think back, i can think of ONE charity collection at the tills in at least my last ten shopping trips ( Roughly twelve weeks). I do not think that these noble charities are being stopped at the door by these terrorist little girls looking to corner the bag packing market with their damned Irishness!! :eek::eek:

    As for the hypothetical point you made about collections for the michael stone band etc, if i had a problem i would simply ask them to step aside and i would pack my own bags, you know like an ADULT instead of a crying child who does not like something.

    Oh and feel free to reply to me while totally ignoring my post like you did a moment ago, just reinforces some of my points really :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    kincsem wrote: »
    I'm 61 and have seen the GAA in action for a while. I do not agree with you. The opposite of what you say is, in my opinion, nearer the truth.

    Fair enough, but what organisation would you propose for that title? I can't see any contenders in any of the parishes or towns around. The GAA has its act together. They - or rather some troglodyte committee members - can be prícks with insurance issues and playing for other parishes but as a whole no organisation comes near it in terms of organisation, vibrancy and dynamism in Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    I reckon €0 of the money fundraised by Bryansford Ladies GAA team was pumped into the club you're talking about. Are you really that offended because there is a club named after on of the 1981 Hunger Strikers, a man who died in his effort to re-establish political status for Republican prisoners? There's probably a lot of countries that you'll never visit in your life because they named streets after another one of those Hunger Strikers. I feel pity for you more than anything.
    Who is to say it would be me getting offended? A lot of people in Ulster probably would get offended if they walked into Tesco and see people from the GAA collecting money and knowing they have clubs named after people who had been in the PIRA who had been planning on blowing them to pieces.

    I think some people have pretty much said the same thing on here in regards to the way the GAA work. I don't think everyone thinks the GAA is great.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Bag packing is a very common way for clubs to raise money, not just GAA clubs. I don't see why a local sports club can't try and raise money at their local tesco just because their club is named after a dead person. Chances are they just want to spend the money on balls and jerseys rather than AK-47s to go shooting protestants.

    Precisely. Well said. All sports clubs serve a healthy purpose in the community, and the local community benefits financially through the kids having their energy focused positively rather than negatively against the community.

    As for bag packing, it's not just sports clubs: schools are now raising money that way. Many schools are being refused on the same grounds as the GAA are: they are not "registered charities". This is the policy now in either Dunnes Stores or Superquinn.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    flash1080 wrote: »
    Complete madness. What an idea it is to make all collectors wear armbands to mark the group that they belong to, similar to the Yellow Star used to mark out Jews by the Nazis, it's interesting considering how many Unionists have aligned themselves with neo-Nazis.

    Any collectors collecting for any charity or sports club or society etc should be wearing a t-shirt or a badge or an armband to clearly identify what they are collecting for. Most of the chuggers and that already do, and I haven't seen anyone complain about the vest-tops the chuggers wear.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭flash1080


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Who is to say it would be me getting offended? A lot of people in Ulster probably would get offended if they walked into Tesco and see people from the GAA collecting money and knowing they have clubs named after people who had been in the PIRA who had been planning on blowing them to pieces.

    I think some people have pretty much said the same thing on here in regards to the way the GAA work. I don't think everyone thinks the GAA is great.

    What are the names of all these clubs named after members of the PIRA out of interest? There's only one club in the North of Ireland that I know was named after a Republican - Kevin Lynch - but he wasn't in the PIRA. Are they as offended by GAA clubs named after Republicans from the not-so-recent past too?


  • Advertisement
  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭flash1080


    prinz wrote: »
    Any collectors collecting for any charity or sports club or society etc should be wearing a t-shirt or a badge or an armband to clearly identify what they are collecting for. Most of the chuggers and that already do, and I haven't seen anyone complain about the vest-tops the chuggers wear.

    I'd be surprised if none of the people who were bagpacking were wearing club jerseys/polos/tracksuits.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    flash1080 wrote: »
    I'd be surprised if none of the people who were bagpacking were wearing club jerseys/polos/tracksuits.

    Sounds to me like there was an issue of collectors not clearly identifying what exactly they were collecting for..
    He said labels on the collectors' buckets said they were Bryansford Ladies "when in fact they were Bryansford Ladies GAA team"....

    "All collectors should have badges or arm-bands which clearly identify the organisation they represent."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42 threestripes


    Most of these people are offended and show disdain to any one wearing a jersey or peice of clothing made by O'Neills, can't see past the fact that most nationalists had very little to do with the troubles or IRA other than being beat by the state, those Unionists, always up to no-good.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,797 ✭✭✭karma_


    prinz wrote: »
    Sounds to me like there was an issue of collectors not clearly identifying what exactly they were collecting for..

    That's according to that bastion of integrity that is Jim Wells.

    I'd say it was safe to assume he's talking through an orifice that's not his mouth.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    karma_ wrote: »
    That's according to that bastion of integrity that is Jim Wells. I'd say it was safe to assume he's talking through an orifice that's not his mouth.

    That's as may be. However the point that bagpackers and collectors on behalf of any group (GAA club or otherwise) should always be clearly indentifiable is a good one. I've been there myself in Tesco in Dublin as it happens. Couldn't see what the group were collecting for until I asked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    flash1080 wrote: »
    What are the names of all these clubs named after members of the PIRA out of interest? There's only one club in the North of Ireland that I know was named after a Republican - Kevin Lynch - but he wasn't in the PIRA. Are they as offended by GAA clubs named after Republicans from the not-so-recent past too?
    Well i would count them all as the same thing. IRA, PIRA, RIRA etc. But some people might not understand that. So the most famous is the PIRA.

    Looking at this article from a few years back, it seems the GAA do have a problem.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8279811.stm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,681 ✭✭✭ColeTrain


    Show Time wrote: »
    The gaa and the orange order a marriage of bigots made in heaven.

    Possibly the most ridiculous post I've seen on AH.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,665 ✭✭✭blahfckingblah


    kieth this taught may not have struck you saying as how you are in a blind rage at the taught of these people, these big bad PIRA SS Pro gaddafi ladies GAA club collecting money at a shop that you have more than likely never been to but, a collection is merely a suggestion and not obligitory theres always the opertunity to say "no thanks".

    Seriously some people are rediculous how do we move on from the past if there is such a deal made of a non issue like this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭lugha


    The GAA until a few years ago prohibited members of the security forces of Northern Ireland from taking part in their games. Whatever you thought about the merits of that rule it made it clear to all that the GAA were a cultural organisation for one tribe up there only. A pity IMO, as many of us turn to sport to get away from all that political sh*te.

    I would broadly have considerable respect for the GAA with just a few minor quibbles with them. But plainly, people should know who they are contributing to in these situations, even if their reasons for declining to contribute stem from prejudice, or worse.


  • Advertisement
  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,017 ✭✭✭flash1080


    Dionysus wrote: »
    Precisely. Well said. All sports clubs serve a healthy purpose in the community, and the local community benefits financially through the kids having their energy focused positively rather than negatively against the community.

    As for bag packing, it's not just sports clubs: schools are now raising money that way. Many schools are being refused on the same grounds as the GAA are: they are not "registered charities". This is the policy now in either Dunnes Stores or Superquinn.

    The sad thing is that your own community if far more likely to benefit by sports clubs and schools fundraising, rather than registered charities.

    KeithAFC wrote: »
    Well i would count them all as the same thing. IRA, PIRA, RIRA etc. But some people might not understand that. So the most famous is the PIRA.

    Looking at this article from a few years back, it seems the GAA do have a problem.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8279811.stm

    So, any names of other clubs? Or is it just Kevin Lynch? Because that article that you've linked to says that there's only one club. It also says, "It doesn't matter about the manner or nature of his death, or why he died. It is irrelevant to Kevin Lynch hurling club. Kevin Lynch brought great distinction to hurling in Dungiven and in County Derry."


Advertisement
Advertisement