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Any Neo Geo AES owners?

  • 21-08-2011 04:30PM
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭


    I'm a bit confused as to what I should be looking for in an AES console. Seems to be a mishmash of talk about serial numbers, motherboard revisions and Unibios.

    Does anyone here have a bit of knowledge on the AES console and what, specifically, you need to look out for and what price range you'd be looking at?

    Also, it may seem obvious, but just to clarify, MVS carts fit in to the AES console slot and don't need any conversion or modifications/chips et al do they?


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,995 Mod ✭✭✭✭Andrew76


    o1s1n has an AES so he'd be the man to talk to. I thought you needed a converter to use MVS carts in the AES itself?

    /Edit: Just a thought, if you don't plan on buying AES carts would it not be cheaper to buy an MVS 1,2,3 etc slot mobo and a supergun? Then hook that lot up to your display.

    Here's some more info on the converter, link.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭7sr2z3fely84g5


    The aes gives you a licence to do :D;):D;):D and put anyone in their place if they dont have one.

    Mvs games cost fraction of most AES ports,metal slug been an famous example.

    one mvs adaptor here- http://www.arcadeshock.com/items/accessories-/super-mvs-convertor-ii-mvs-aes-blue-led-snmc-acc-detail.htm

    Some sellers adapt mvs games to aes carts,which seems bad or good whoever you talk to.

    unibios changes the region of the system- http://unibios.free.fr/whatisit.html

    Racketboy did a nice but small guide here on system- http://www.racketboy.com/retro/2011/05/snk-neo-geo-101-a-beginners-guide.html

    More questions on serials here- http://nfggames.com/games/neorgb/

    My own view,try get one that has pro pow 3 or por pow E at bottom so you can get an psu off console goods and run system off an uk source-
    http://www.robwebb1.plus.com/neogeo/ng.htm

    i think you looking to pay about €200+ for aes system with games,maybe a fiver if your burton.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Great info from all, thanks a lot it makes it a lot clearer. That converter is seriously expensive though, how come?

    Might be worth looking at a consolised MVS in this instance. Especially as I only want Last Hope and Blazing Star to name a couple and the AES for Blazing Star alone is absolutely eye-watering.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭7sr2z3fely84g5


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    Great info from all, thanks a lot it makes it a lot clearer. That converter is seriously expensive though, how come?

    Might be worth looking at a consolised MVS in this instance. Especially as I only want Last Hope and Blazing Star to name a couple and the AES for Blazing Star alone is absolutely eye-watering.

    i think the mvs converter is one off purchase particularly when you look at the price of aes games,metal slug aes goes for €1000,you could say its paying off itself.


    Metal slug Aes- http://cgi.ebay.ie/neo-geo-aes-Metal-Slug-jap-near-mint-extremely-rare-/180709410630?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2a131ec746

    Metal slug Mvs- http://cgi.ebay.ie/Metal-Slug-1-English-MVS-Kit-Neo-Geo-Arcade-JAMMA-SNK-/390271941747?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ade053c73

    Could always pick up neo cd system*ok people stop laughing*,which fraction of price again but had atrocious loading depending on your model.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    If it was CD I'd go for the CDZ console but let's be honest, they're both poor systems. It's like a Porsche Boxster. People know you only bought one because you can't afford a 911.

    Save the cash and buy the real beans, not the magic ones.

    Maybe the AES is still the way forward, but gosh, that converter is some price.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭7sr2z3fely84g5


    Jap aes games are cheap,some allow language change in the games,but you would in some cases put up with censorship of removal of gore and replacement of green blood in the language change.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,391 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I really want an MVS but it seems that if you want one with an MVS converter and all RGB'ed up it will cost a fortune!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 34,777 CMod ✭✭✭✭CiDeRmAn


    When you own a Neo Geo CD at least your Mom thinks you're cool....

    And I should know!
    Then again I did have a massive collection of c cough d cough cough r's for it.. ;)

    But the loading times are so intrusive it is nigh unplayable.

    My lovely MVS on the other hand....
    MVS Motherboard
    Jamma Adaptor
    ATX PSU
    Some assorted video and audio cables
    A proper AES controller, plugs into MVS mb
    A hacked ex-DC Arcade Stick, wired into the Jamma board
    And one of those 111 in 1 MVS multicarts.

    And Bobs your Uncle!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,155 ✭✭✭CathalDublin


    Just stick a MVS mobo in your cabinet, that's what I do anyway, nothing like playing a MVS cart in the cabinet


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,195 ✭✭✭ondafly


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    I'm a bit confused as to what I should be looking for in an AES console.they?

    I'll make it easy for you :D Just buy one ! They are a fantastic console, look the business, and are super nostalgic (imho), if like me you drooled over the back pages of C&VG back in the day, with the pictures of machine, and their eye watering prices for each game.

    I think I paid €100 for the convertor from some mad website. Great purchase though, as all my MVS games play perfectly on it. I also bought a multicart MVS , however because you don't get player 1 and player 2 start buttons on the AES, you have to power on/off the console to bring you back to the game listing menu.
    Pyongyang wrote: »
    If it was CD I'd go for the CDZ console but let's be honest, they're both poor systems. It's like a Porsche Boxster. People know you only bought one because you can't afford a 911.

    Lol - having owned a Poxster, I can clearly state, that the Neo Geo CD itself is 100 times better and probably faster at loading games. What a boring car...........however stating its a poor mans 911, dear oh dear, poor car knowledge there boss :pac:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    ondafly wrote: »
    Lol - having owned a Poxster, I can clearly state, that the Neo Geo CD itself is 100 times better and probably faster at loading games. What a boring car...........however stating its a poor mans 911, dear oh dear, poor car knowledge there boss :pac:

    Ah c'mon it so is! A friend of mine had one and it wasn't the best. Another lad had an S2000, the other a TVR Griffith. Out of the lot I'd have taken the S2000. Absolutely smashing car it is too, although the sheer sound of the TVR was utterly bowel-shattering. I got nothing from the Porker though I'm a fine one to talk when I was driving a Chrysler Sebring! :o

    Back to the Neo Geo CD though, I have read a few discussions on replacing the CD drive in the CD and the CDZ although I'm unclear of how much progress was made, and, more importantly, if it's even possible to do at all anyway.

    As for the console, well, I think I'll go the AES + Super MVS route. I just prefer the aesthetics of the AES. Though I think I'm going to take a long time choosing the right console with a good serial number and board version. Has to have the unibios and RGB mod done too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,980 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Get one of these.
    Analogue-Interactive-Neo-Geo-Consolized-MVS-544x308px.jpg

    You bloody know you want one! :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Indeed they are a work of beauty but $649 is a bit steep! If it around the $500 mark then maybe, but for that price it's probably worth looking at a cab.

    Ah a cab, the one prize possession I'd love to have, yet I've no chance until next year of landing one. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,535 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    If you're going AES & MVS, get the Super MVS Converter II. It has the highest level of compatability. Only game that doesn't work is Metal Slug X.

    There is one issue with them though. Neo Geo fighting games are known for their scaling and zooming. Especially in games like Samurai Showdown and The Last Blade. For some reason this effect gets a bit muddled up with these convertors. There's a dial on the front of the convertor so you can try to get rid of it. Its still a bit annoying though.

    All other games run 100% perfect. If you're into shooters like myself then it won't bother you at all.

    You can import a Japanese console on ebay Japan for about 120 euro delivered. The MVS adapter will probably cost you 150. Worth it in the long run.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Cheers o1s1n. So the converter doesn't have issues with shooters? AES is the way forward then is it, even with the expense of the converter?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,195 ✭✭✭ondafly


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    Ah c'mon it so is! A friend of mine had one and it wasn't the best. Another lad had an S2000, the other a TVR Griffith. Out of the lot I'd have taken the S2000. Absolutely smashing car it is too, although the sheer sound of the TVR was utterly bowel-shattering. I got nothing from the Porker though I'm a fine one to talk when I was driving a Chrysler Sebring! :o

    /off topic :p obviously - but come back to me when you lived with one for a year. The Boxster does one thing very well, and thats handling. Hands down, it handles better than a 911, but the 911 will whip its ass with the power. The S2000, while a lovely drive, is one tail happy and high rev'ing lady ! and the TVR ? well lets hope it stays put together and nothing falls off :pac: But what am I saying here - I can't actually believe I'm defending the Boxster ?!!??!?
    Pyongyang wrote: »
    As for the console, well, I think I'll go the AES + Super MVS route. I just prefer the aesthetics of the AES. Though I think I'm going to take a long time choosing the right console with a good serial number and board version. Has to have the unibios and RGB mod done too!

    Do it ! and if going to Japan ? you will pick one up cheapo.
    K.O.Kiki wrote: »
    Get one of these.
    Analogue-Interactive-Neo-Geo-Consolized-MVS-544x308px.jpg

    You bloody know you want one! :pac:

    I would love one of those......
    o1s1n wrote: »
    If you're going AES & MVS, get the Super MVS Converter II. It has the highest level of compatability. Only game that doesn't work is Metal Slug X.

    this sounds like the convertor I have, even came with a small screw driver for adjusting that scaler thing. I've had no issues with any shmups on it, although I haven't used it a long while since getting the MVS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,980 ✭✭✭✭K.O.Kiki


    Just a heads-up to anyone wanting to get either AES or MVS:
    Neo Geo controller pinout

    Since the controllers don't use any ID chips, you can create one with anything as a base (e.g. empty shells, custom cases, shoeboxes...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,932 ✭✭✭geotrig


    :)get one they are the awesomest !! most carts are around 30-50ish mark with the metal slugs and some of the rarer titles ridiculous prices !but hey thats life!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,391 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    I didn't know that about the scaling games with the convertor. It's put me off them now.

    How much money/effort would it take to make a consolised MVS supergun with RGB and/or component out?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,391 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Hmm, seems you could build an RGB one for around 200 euros pretty damn easily.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,535 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Pyongyang wrote: »
    Cheers o1s1n. So the converter doesn't have issues with shooters? AES is the way forward then is it, even with the expense of the converter?

    Well of all the shooters I've played I've never experienced any problems. It's only fighters really.

    If you can justify spending at least 150 for a second hand MVS adapter then the AES is the prettiest solution.

    An MVS arcade motherboard with a cheap supergun is also a great combination though. It's ugly, but you won't have any of those scaling issues with fighters if you ever feel like giving them a go. (The Last Blade games are a must).

    Plus you'll also be able to drop it into an arcade machine when you buy one ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,535 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Retr0gamer wrote: »
    How much money/effort would it take to make a consolised MVS supergun with RGB and/or component out?

    Not worth it really. Just get one of those cheap superguns (only cost about 15 or 20 and they support RGB scart) and an arcade motherboard.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Plus you'll also be able to drop it into an arcade machine when you buy one ;)

    Ah stop! I'm in talks to get a cab now but SHH! don't tell the wife!!!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,391 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    o1s1n wrote: »
    Not worth it really. Just get one of those cheap superguns (only cost about 15 or 20 and they support RGB scart) and an arcade motherboard.

    Well I only did a quick look on ebay. An RGB supergun board is about 70 sterling delivered, didnt find anything cheaper but didn't really look and a 4 slot MVS jamma mobo was about 70 delivered as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,195 ✭✭✭ondafly


    Jochen on ArcadeForge has built a new Supergun setup

    http://wp1114205.wp150.webpack.hosteurope.de/xtcmodified/index.php?cPath=5


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,391 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    Awesome. Next step: Get a job.

    :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    ondafly wrote: »
    Jochen on ArcadeForge has built a new Supergun setup

    http://wp1114205.wp150.webpack.hosteurope.de/xtcmodified/index.php?cPath=5


    WOAH! Hold on a minute there cowboy! If I buy that MAK Strike yolk, is that all I need to plug in a joystick, connect the Supergun to the TV and that's it? I can run MVS games? Or do I still need to buy something else?

    My purchasing finger is clicking over the 'checkout' button already!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 53,391 CMod ✭✭✭✭Retr0gamer


    You'll need a power supply which if you have old computers then you've probably got one already. Then you'll need an MVS jamma motherboard, pretty damn cheap, or if you want it's also compatible with any other jamma motherboard. Hook it up with joysticks and an RGB scart cable and you're flying. The only thing is that it's kind of messy so best to build a nice unit out of it to keep it tidy and not looking like a bunch of circuit boards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Cheers for the sound advice. Looks like it'll work out for everything around €120-€180 (guestimate) to be fully underway minus a game.

    Hmm, maybe looking at that price it's worth holding back and choosing a good cabinet seeing as that's a good chunk of a cabinet outlay. Sound info though, thanks a lot. :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Pyongyang


    Rebirthing this thread, what are your opinions on a consolized MVS? Preferably a prefabricated one with all the trimmings?

    Are these the way forward? Does this particular kind of set up have RGB issues like certain revisions of the AES?

    What kind of price would you be looking at for a full, ready to go system to just plug in to the TV and play? No extras, just the kit to slot in a MVS cart, press power on and get going.


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