Ultra Street Fighter 4 Discussion Thread

the 1st hardter · 21-08-2011 01:51PM

Ex air dash for oni, give something like ex demon flip tracking thing for cross ups.

I would like a fadc dp on block but I can live without it.

K.O.Kiki · 21-08-2011 02:19PM

Abel gets his damage back.

Adon gets his Super wakeup back.

THAT'S IT.

stev0knev022 · 21-08-2011 02:31PM

Honda Changes:

Return of Jab Headbut AA

Return of Super U2

Oicho damage to go back to 180/190/200

Either remove ex oicho or give it a function cause right now all it's doing is randomly appearing when im trying to do A/C headbutt

Far St hp to do 100 damage instead of 80

Blocked HHS to go back to + 6

Either his Cr Mp or St Mp to have reduced startup and be special cancellable

Fix Mk buttslams air hitbox/active frames so instead of just brushing up beside people it actually hits them if they jump back or up.

Remove Sagats trade ultra from the game :P

Edit: Remove Sagat from the game.

Fergus_ · 21-08-2011 02:33PM

Honda changes

Remove Honda

That is all

Ramza · 21-08-2011 02:39PM

This thread is salty as ****, would yis gway

the 1st hardter · 21-08-2011 03:50PM

Ramza wrote: »

This thread is salty as ****, would yis gway

Let me guess, you play yun????

stev0knev022 · 21-08-2011 03:56PM

Ramza wrote: »

This thread is salty as ****, would yis gway

My changes are very reasonable imo :rolleyes::D

Kirby · 21-08-2011 04:11PM

Better hitbox on Yoga blast. Been asking since vanilla though so I'm not holding my breath on that.

Give him back his Yoga flame damage. As a character, he does no damage at all. This nerf wasn't neccessary.

More damage on back+MK.

Safer medium slide.

That's it really. Seems very reasonable to me and wouldn't take long. On a more "wishlist" kind of thinking, FADC is completely useless for sim so give him an EX teleport. Make it use two metres and go fullscreen. Most of the cast can burn metre in the corner to escape so it would be nice if sim could.

Dreddybajs · 21-08-2011 04:39PM

Kirby wrote: »

Make it use two metres and go fullscreen. Most of the cast can burn metre in the corner to escape so it would be nice if sim could.

Not really man. Most moves to let people out of the corner whether meterless or not have been nerfed over the versions (Gen EX walldive, coward copter, Blanka EX rainbow ball, etc).

Plus I'm pretty sure most of the moves people use to get out of the corner are punishable with an OS or with good reaction, your idea would be completely unpunishable.

IMO it's also antithetical to Sim's character design. Once you've got him in the corner he should be at a huge disadvantage and have to work extremely hard to get out, that's the drawback for his great zoning.

stev0knev022 · 21-08-2011 04:47PM

Dreddybajs wrote: »

Not really man. Most moves to let people out of the corner whether meterless or not have been nerfed over the versions (Gen EX walldive, coward copter, Blanka EX rainbow ball, etc).

Plus I'm pretty sure most of the moves people use to get out of the corner are punishable with an OS or with good reaction, your idea would be completely unpunishable.

IMO it's also antithetical to Sim's character design. Once you've got him in the corner he should be at a huge disadvantage and have to work extremely hard to get out, that's the drawback for his great zoning.

Nice use of antithetical.

Azza · 21-08-2011 04:51PM

Go back over Vanilla, Super and AE and give Sim the best versions of his all his moves.

stev0knev022 · 21-08-2011 04:55PM

Azza wrote: »

Go back over Vanilla, Super and AE and give Sim the best versions of his all his moves.

Sim got fk'd by the introduction of the twins, tbh he now has too many terrible matches to be tournament viable.

Azza · 21-08-2011 04:57PM

The twins will be toned down in 2012 so he might do a little better.

the 1st hardter · 21-08-2011 04:59PM

Give vega (claw) a way to combo into ultra. How come I can c. Mp into ex fba but not ultra one??? Or down forward roundhouse into slide but not ultra 2???

I already have **** damage/combo potential and rely on mix up / punish game with no way out of corner pressure............

Owwmykneecap · 21-08-2011 05:04PM

you can d/f.hk into ultra 2, or at least you could in Super.

it's just stupidly difficult spacing wise.

you can combo into ultra off of trade ex.fba.

The Hound · 21-08-2011 05:05PM

Was Sim nerfed badly or is it just the twins?

the 1st hardter · 21-08-2011 05:06PM

Owwmykneecap wrote: »

you can d/f.hk into ultra 2, or at least you could in Super.

it's just stupidly difficult spacing wise.

you can combo into ultra off of trade ex.fba.

Well guess what I am getting down in training mode later. I have never seen this landed ever in all the vega games I have seen.

The Hound · 21-08-2011 05:07PM

the 1st hardter wrote: »

Give vega (claw) a way to combo into ultra. How come I can c. Mp into ex fba but not ultra one??? Or down forward roundhouse into slide but not ultra 2???

I already have **** damage/combo potential and rely on mix up / punish game with no way out of corner pressure............

The reason why Vega is kept at the bottom is because nobody wants to have to deal with that SF2 nonsense. This is Capcoms apology for that bs

stev0knev022 · 21-08-2011 05:19PM

The Hound wrote: »

Was Sim nerfed badly or is it just the twins?

Sim lost a bit of damage but his gameplay is the same, the twins just own him cause he cant deal with divekicks, cant see it getting much better in 2012 tbh.

Darachnid · 21-08-2011 05:21PM

Dreddybajs wrote: »

Most moves to let people out of the corner whether meterless or not have been nerfed over the versions (Gen EX walldive, coward copter, Blanka EX rainbow ball, etc)

EX rainbow ball out of corner for blanka was nerfed in AE. Much less distance now. Although the ball can now hit people in the back of the head, usefull for hitting whiffed forward-moving ultras; Rekka ultra/super, cammy drill ultra/super etc...

Doctor DooM · 21-08-2011 05:36PM

*Looks over Guiles devlog*

Buff damage to second hit of sweep

Buff damage on backfist

Buff damage on flash kicks

Buff damage on UDK and remove new hitbox

Buff damage on sonic hurricane

Remove counter hit sonic boom nerf

Remove new meter build for normals and sonic boom

Shorten start up of Sonic Hurricane

Shorten start up of air throw by 1 frame

...Yeah, that works

The Hound · 21-08-2011 05:40PM

Give Sagat back his balls...

bush · 21-08-2011 05:58PM

Sorry, no balls allowed in this game.

liamnojo92 · 21-08-2011 06:04PM

Doctor DooM wrote: »

*Looks over Guiles devlog*

There's a devlog ?

Doctor DooM · 21-08-2011 06:11PM

liamnojo92 wrote: »

There's a devlog ?

When super and AE came out Capcom published a weekly development blog.

Dreddybajs · 21-08-2011 06:39PM

Darachnid wrote: »

EX rainbow ball out of corner for blanka was nerfed in AE.

That's what I said

Rob2D · 21-08-2011 08:13PM

Owwmykneecap wrote: »

you can d/f.hk into ultra 2, or at least you could in Super.

Its his last trial isn't it? Never could do it myself.

Ramza · 21-08-2011 08:30PM

the 1st hardter wrote: »

Let me guess, you play yun????

Who did I play before AE?

Azza · 21-08-2011 08:53PM

Urine wasn't it. :P

Ramza · 21-08-2011 08:56PM

El Fuerte the beast, probably just as annoying

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