Best nightclub of the 90s?

Android 666 · 19-08-2011 08:57AM

After posting on boards for a while I'd be glad to never have to hear or read about Asylum (cough, sorry ASYLUM!) ever again and the accompanying 'best place ever, freedom to do whatever you wanted!' palaver. And then there's the usual 'music is crap these days' usually said by, let's face it, people like me with kids that don't get out anymore. The thing is music trends move on and change. Some times there's lulls in good music being made and sometimes there is an upsurge in quality (which is happening at the moment imo).

The thing is if you're one of those guys that sits around moaning about how the music was only good in the early nineties and it's been rubbish ever since you're the raver equivalent of the auld lads with the Elvis hairdos. Time to move on lads and stop hero-worshipping a kip that no longer exists and crappy mix tapes by Warren K and the like. These things were only ever meant transitory and to be lived in the moment. Spending all your time going on about how every thing was greater back then is a waste of the present if you ask me. Enjoy yourselves now lads and stop living in the past and if you really, genuinely believe that there is no good music out there now you need your head examined...

Scubadevils · 19-08-2011 09:51AM

Android 666 wrote: »

After posting on boards for a while I'd be glad to never have to hear or read about Asylum (cough, sorry ASYLUM!) ever again and the accompanying 'best place ever, freedom to do whatever you wanted!' palaver. And then there's the usual 'music is crap these days' usually said by, let's face it, people like me with kids that don't get out anymore. The thing is music trends move on and change. Some times there's lulls in good music being made and sometimes there is an upsurge in quality (which is happening at the moment imo).

The thing is if you're one of those guys that sits around moaning about how the music was only good in the early nineties and it's been rubbish ever since you're the raver equivalent of the auld lads with the Elvis hairdos. Time to move on lads and stop hero-worshipping a kip that no longer exists and crappy mix tapes by Warren K and the like. These things were only ever meant transitory and to be lived in the moment. Spending all your time going on about how every thing was greater back then is a waste of the present if you ask me. Enjoy yourselves now lads and stop living in the past and if you really, genuinely believe that there is no good music out there now you need your head examined...

Jaysus, don't knock having a shotgun stuck in your face till you've tried it - nothing quite like being off your face on pure MDMA and the threat of death to bring on a rush.... bleedin deadly it is. :eek: :pac:

Is mise le key · 19-08-2011 10:01AM

Android 666 wrote: »

After posting on boards for a while I'd be glad to never have to hear or read about Asylum (cough, sorry ASYLUM!) ever again and the accompanying 'best place ever, freedom to do whatever you wanted!' palaver.

Shame you wont get your desire andy:D

Android 666 wrote: »

And then there's the usual 'music is crap these days' usually said by, let's face it, people like me with kids that don't get out anymore. The thing is music trends move on and change. Some times there's lulls in good music being made and sometimes there is an upsurge in quality (which is happening at the moment imo).

Havnt got the time to go looking but this was all thrashed out on here in the past regarding music now & then good & bad.

Android 666 wrote: »

The thing is if you're one of those guys that sits around moaning about how the music was only good in the early nineties and it's been rubbish ever since you're the raver equivalent of the auld lads with the Elvis hairdos. Time to move on lads and stop hero-worshipping a kip that no longer exists and crappy mix tapes by Warren K and the like. These things were only ever meant transitory and to be lived in the moment. Spending all your time going on about how every thing was greater back then is a waste of the present if you ask me. Enjoy yourselves now lads and stop living in the past and if you really, genuinely believe that there is no good music out there now you need your head examined...

Ahh, again, already well discussed, to summarise,

I dont live in the past, nor do i have any wish to, but, i would not change my past in anyway at all, there is nothing wrong at all with sharing good times of past with people who experienced what you did, also, it would be very unhealthy mentally, i reckon, if you feel so attached to the good memories & experiences of your past to bury & ignore them, i enjoy different things these days than i did when i was 21, i find what i want from a weekend these days completley different to when i was 21, why is it you feel that there is something wrong if someone of my age feels that the music/rave scene we were emerresed in was better then than it is now?

Undoubtedly people clubbing these days have a blast, and fair play to them, i hope they are, but refusing to accept that it was more eneregetic (in an evolutionary sense) and inspiring back then, just to somehow justify a want to offer an argument that leans towards people letting go of their past (the conotation being that said people must be obsessive about their past) is simply immature.

joker77 · 19-08-2011 10:10AM

Is mise le key wrote: »

Undoubtedly people clubbing these days have a blast, and fair play to them, i hope they are, but refusing to accept that it was more eneregetic (in an evolutionary sense) and inspiring back then, just to somehow justify a want to offer an argument that leans towards people letting go of their past (the conotation being that said people must be obsessive about their past) is simply immature.

I'm going to disagree on this point Is Mise

I think there is a hell of a lot MORE music being made these days. The scene has changed so much, you couldn't say it was more vibrant then, just different. As for energetic, I know I was more energetic then, but that was because I was in my teens! Are you sure it just didn't seem more energetic because you were younger and full of energy?

Is mise le key · 19-08-2011 10:17AM

joker77 wrote: »

I'm going to disagree on this point Is Mise

I think there is a hell of a lot MORE music being made these days. The scene has changed so much, you couldn't say it was more vibrant then, just different. As for energetic, I know I was more energetic then, but that was because I was in my teens! Are you sure it just didn't seem more energetic because you were younger and full of energy?

No, i said energetic in an evolutionary sense, and not just the music, but the music was far more exciting as it was new, sure it has been said i dont know how many times on here about artists just rehashing the same old same old styles etc creating new genres etc.

Now, i didnt get into the music end of things really if you take alook over it again as music is very subjective to the time it is coming out & the generation that is getting into it, but again the amount of bitching that has gone on on here from not the old skoolers about the quality of the music production on the likes of beatport etc kind of vindicates what i am saying on that front, however, as i said already, it very subjective.

I was responding to the idea that you shouldnt enjoy some indulgence in your past (without it being obsessive) & just get on with the now, i do get on with the now, my life is full of stuff i really enjoy, i wish dearly i didnt have to work 8 hours a day so i could enjoy life HERE & NOW more.

BaZmO* · 19-08-2011 10:25AM

Is mise le key wrote: »

why is it you feel that there is something wrong if someone of my age feels that the music/rave scene we were emerresed in was better then than it is now?

That's the thing though, how do you know what's better if you're coming at both scenes from a different perspective. I think most people have a problem with "oldskoolers" because of their dismissive nature of anything that has come since, the "You weren't there, so you don't know!" attitude. As Andy says, it' s like old Rockers dismissing anything other than the first five years of Rock n Roll. Sure, it's not the same, but who's to say it's worse?

Is mise le key · 19-08-2011 10:31AM

BaZmO* wrote: »

That's the thing though, how do you know what's better if you're coming at both scenes from a different perspective. I think most people have a problem with "oldskoolers" because of their dismissive nature of anything that has come since, the "You weren't there, so you don't know!" attitude. As Andy says, it' s like old Rockers dismissing anything other than the first five years of Rock n Roll. Sure, it's not the same, but who's to say it's worse?

Well, i think if you are honest baz, have i ever displayed a "You weren't there, so you don't know!" attitude?

I have always said that i hope whatever people are into now & venue they are going to they are having a blast, i simply offer my persepctive on it, which as you pointed out & i also alluded to is subjective to the time & generation.

Again, i was responding to the post from andy by offering that you can happily enjoy your past by discussing it with other like minded folks without it being obsessive or unhealthy, which is was andy was leaning towards if i interpreted him right.

BaZmO* · 19-08-2011 10:38AM

You're different though Mise, you're a Hippy Lefty, who's willing to debate on the subject, so my comments weren't directed at you.

Listen, I'd be considered an oldskooler too, and for me the scene was way better back then but I don't go on about it all the time, or at least I think I don't.

Is mise le key · 19-08-2011 10:40AM

Scubadevils wrote: »

Jaysus, don't knock having a shotgun stuck in your face till you've tried it - nothing quite like being off your face on pure MDMA and the threat of death to bring on a rush.... bleedin deadly it is.:rolleyes: :eek: :pac:

Maybe this should be falgged as being sarcastic, wouldnt want people to get the wrong end of the stick & think a mod was promoting illegal drugs & violence:D

Is mise le key · 19-08-2011 10:43AM

BaZmO* wrote: »

You're different though Mise, you're a Hippy Lefty, who's willing to debate on the subject, so my comments weren't directed at you.

Thanks for the compliment;)

BaZmO* wrote: »

Listen, I'd be considered an oldskooler too, and for me the scene was way better back then but I don't go on about it all the time, or at least I think I don't.

Well, no you dont as it happens, i think i remember you saying once that you played in the shaft, is that right?

BaZmO* · 19-08-2011 10:45AM

Is mise le key wrote: »

Thanks for the compliment;)

You're welcome.

Is mise le key wrote: »

Well, no you dont as it happens, i think i remember you saying once that you played in the shaft, is that right?

Yup

Is mise le key · 19-08-2011 10:47AM

BaZmO* wrote: »

Yup

And thats about as much as you ever going to hear of Baz's time DJ'ing in the shaft.

BaZmO* · 19-08-2011 10:49AM

Is mise le key wrote: »

And thats about as much as you ever going to hear of Baz's time DJ'ing in the shaft.

Haha.

What do want to know?

I also played in Tin Pan Alley a few times, and played on Power FM for years.

Android 666 · 19-08-2011 10:49AM

Is mise le key wrote: »

No, i said energetic in an evolutionary sense, and not just the music, but the music was far more exciting as it was new, sure it has been said i dont know how many times on here about artists just rehashing the same old same old styles etc creating new genres etc.

Now, i didnt get into the music end of things really if you take alook over it again as music is very subjective to the time it is coming out & the generation that is getting into it, but again the amount of bitching that has gone on on here from not the old skoolers about the quality of the music production on the likes of beatport etc kind of vindicates what i am saying on that front, however, as i said already, it very subjective.

I was responding to the idea that you shouldnt enjoy some indulgence in your past (without it being obsessive) & just get on with the now, i do get on with the now, my life is full of stuff i really enjoy, i wish dearly i didnt have to work 8 hours a day so i could enjoy life HERE & NOW more.

Everyone gets nostalgic, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that. I get misty eyed listening to some of the old tunes I have on vinyl but the problem I have is that for a lot of oldskoolers they blame everything (the music, the drugs, etc.) for the reasons clubbing went down the toilet except the fact that maybe they were just getting older and not getting as much of a buzz out of it anymore.

Yes, there is an enormous amount of poo on Beatport and it is easier for the chancers to get there music released but there are still a lot of labels that are always guaranteed quality releases - Punch Drunk, Swamp 81, Hot Flush etc. - and plenty of people online to help you sort the wheat from the chaff.

The music is always going to be exciting when your getting in to it and I know there's not going to a roots movement like that for a long time but the constant 'bitd' business is a bit tiresome. Like I said music is constantly evolving.

Everybody has to work 8 hours a day at some stage but, and this is not aimed at you Is Mise, I reckon with the bit of spare time I have I'd rather be checking out some new tunes than figuring out what track 8 was on a Warren K mixtape from 1993.

Do you know what Is Mise, you should head out with us to Shed at the Twisted Pepper to see what you think it's like now…

BaZmO* · 19-08-2011 10:51AM

Android 666 wrote: »

Do you know what Is Mise,

I don't know, what is Mise?

Android 666 · 19-08-2011 10:54AM

BaZmO* wrote: »

I don't know, what is Mise?

It's a kind of crop found in Argentina, like maize except with a slightly rougher texture.

BaZmO* · 19-08-2011 10:57AM

Android 666 wrote: »

It's a kind of crop found in Argentina, like maize except with a slightly rougher texture.

Does it lean to the left when it grows?

Is mise le key · 19-08-2011 10:59AM

Android 666 wrote: »

Do you know what Is Mise, you should head out with us to Shed at the Twisted Pepper to see what you think it's like now…

I wouldnt knock it at all, but as i said i know what i want from my weekends these days, not saying i wouldnt ever venture in at some point but im not overly drawn to it, are there many 'hipsters' frequent the place?

jtsuited · 19-08-2011 11:01AM

you do see a few tbh. but they're intimidated by people over 6 foot and who actually have shoulders so they run away.

Android 666 · 19-08-2011 11:01AM

BaZmO* wrote: »

Does it lean to the left when it grows?

To the far left. As they joke in Argentinia: Creo que el mise es comunista! Har har har…

Android 666 · 19-08-2011 11:05AM

Is mise le key wrote: »

I wouldnt knock it at all, but as i said i know what i want from my weekends these days, not saying i wouldnt ever venture in at some point but im not overly drawn to it, are there many 'hipsters' frequent the place?

If you bare your teeth at them the hipsters stay away. That and being tragic enough to wear socks with your shoes…

stomprockin · 19-08-2011 11:10AM

Hey Is mise , you might even get a chance wear ear plugs :pac:

jtsuited · 19-08-2011 11:25AM

Android 666 wrote: »

If you bare your teeth at them the hipsters stay away. That and being tragic enough to wear socks with your shoes…

Or.....announce quite loudly to some young un in the smoking area that 'I know yer mudder'.

Android 666 · 19-08-2011 11:33AM

jtsuited wrote: »

Or.....announce quite loudly to some young un in the smoking area that 'I know yer mudder'.

Always the highlight of my night…

francois · 19-08-2011 01:06PM

Android 666 wrote: »

Always the highlight of my night…

as in known in the biblical sense?

Android 666 · 19-08-2011 01:22PM

francois wrote: »

as in known in the biblical sense?

Nah, worked with the woman. The last time I'd seen the daughter she was being brought to a Westlife concert…

jtsuited · 19-08-2011 01:28PM

twas genuinely hilarious....a er, slightly gurning android saying 'you're not gonna believe this but I know that girl's mother, should I say it to her? Yeah I'll say it to her'

Android 666 · 19-08-2011 03:32PM

Thankfully I wasn't showing off my chest with my shirt completely unbuttoned. That would have been embarrassing…

electrogrimey · 21-08-2011 02:47PM

jtsuited wrote: »

you do see a few tbh. but they're intimidated by people over 6 foot and who actually have shoulders so they run away.

I can only ever get through 2 tracks at a time in the Basement, before having to run away. It's a terrible affliction. It's the main reason all hipsters smoke, to give us something to do while we summon up the courage to go back down.

Best nightclub of the 90s?

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