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Scumbag Judge gets 28 years, scumbag!!

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 673 ✭✭✭Tubsandtiles


    Wasn't this on RTE last night ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,740 ✭✭✭Naos


    Just back from boxing so maybe my thinking is scrambled:

    The detention centre owner friends of his - what, they pay him to send kids over so that they get money from the state to keep the place running?

    That the gist?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,325 ✭✭✭✭Dozen Wicked Words


    Wasn't this on RTE last night ?

    Yep, he featured in Michael Moores Doc Capitalism a Love story


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,076 ✭✭✭superstoner90


    SHOULD HAVE BEEN FU*KIN* SENTENCED TO DEATH OR LIFE IN PRISON...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,485 ✭✭✭Thrill


    later10 wrote: »
    Judge Judy tbh

    Wagon.

    Judge.

    Wanderly Wagon


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Naos wrote: »
    Just back from boxing so maybe my thinking is scrambled:

    The detention centre owner friends of his - what, they pay him to send kids over so that they get money from the state to keep the place running?

    That the gist?
    Yep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭imitation


    I thought Prison over population was such a big problem that something like this would be really unlikely. It does appear there are "Private" prisons (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_prison), which are such a bad idea it makes my head hurt. Apparently difficult prisoners are just shipped off to a Government prison anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 715 ✭✭✭_sparkie_


    thats what happens when you have a private prison system, they need people to be put in gaol in order to make money from government grants.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    It's been said many, many times that the leegal system here is a closed loop. The law society of Ireland is basically an old boys club.

    Understatement of this Forum. The Law Society (self-regulating professional body for solictors) is an awful relic of a bygone era, but the Bar Council (self-regulating body for barristers) is much, much worse when it comes to being an old boys network. The sycophancy, the dining cult, the wigs, the obsequiousness, the colonial titles. The barristers and judges of this Republic are a law unto themselves, still, almost 89 years since this part of Ireland started on the road to being a sovereign state.

    The attempts of these people to link their ridiculously uncompetitive legal fees, their obscene wages and conditions and the closed self-regulating shop that is the legal business with the maintenance of justice is stomach turning. For centuries the legal industry has successfully got away with selling itself as the defender of "justice". Nothing could be farther from the truth, and it's time the political class in Ireland and the Irish people grabbed the bull by the horns with the self-serving, money hungry, egomaniac and exceedingly pompous/English elite which constitute the barristers and judges of this Irish republic.

    Whether it's Judge Paul Carney's insistence that barristers wear wigs in "his" courtroom or the profoundly unjust demand from all the judges of this state that their salaries should not be reduced in line with every other public servant, the judges of this republic are patently about maintaining their position at the expense of justice.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭SuperInfinity


    You know, this could be just the tip of the iceberg. This is straightforward and direct bribary for millions... but how many more subtle abuses are carried out like this one, that are to look at "above board" but totally corrupted at the same time?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 189 ✭✭Maddylicious


    Thanks for sharing this OP. Only saw MM's Capitalism film last night for the first time and was outraged by this and other things in the film. Glad to see that judge gets a taste of what it's like to be behind bars. The length of the sentence is even better! That's justice


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Fremen


    This is why private prisons are a shít idea. There's a more widespread version of this same crap still going on. The US prison lobby campaigns for tougher laws and harsher sentences so that it gets fed more prisoners.

    That is really messed up in my book.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭SuperInfinity


    This is a good clip of her screaming at the judge, I think it's inspiring:



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,007 ✭✭✭Phill Ewinn


    Seanbeag1 wrote: »
    Judges aren't required to swear an oath before a trial. They swear it when they take up office. It upsets me when people use incorrect and stupid examples to support their misguided views.

    Meh. You get the idea, declare or show the oath to show an unbiased, third party point of view.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,432 ✭✭✭willmunny1990


    what a ****!hope he ends up someones bitch in prison


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    amacachi wrote: »
    It'd be hard for such a situation to arise here thankfully. Also I assume he must've pissed off the wrong person at some point in his career given that a plea bargain was arrranged and they went ahead and prosecuted properly instead.
    Or the federal judge who overturned the plea bargain had a bit of integrity, was offended at the idea of a judge totally undermining the probity of the legal system, and decided to make an example of him?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,315 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Or the federal judge who overturned the plea bargain had a bit of integrity, was offended at the idea of a judge totally undermining the probity of the legal system, and decided to make an example of him?

    I'm going to stick with the more likely scenario.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    I prefer to believe that there will always be some decent people in every system, even if there are some corrupt ones too! :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭FetchTheGin


    What can you say about people like this, wow.

    Imagine going from living a great life at 17, only to be put in a detention centre for six months so some judge can make another million.

    Pondlife like this need harsh punishments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,024 ✭✭✭previous user


    Yeh, saw this on michael moores documentry last night,
    ugh, America is an extremly corrupt landscape.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Let's just hope the evil bastard gets ass raped every fucking day he's inside.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Kadongy


    fncking awesome. I am delighted they convicted the cnut. Judges are usually untouchable.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭SuperInfinity


    I prefer to believe that there will always be some decent people in every system, even if there are some corrupt ones too! :)

    A while ago I might have agreed, I might even have said the same thing myself.

    But I've come to realize you should NEVER let what you would like to believe get in the way of your objective analysis and true belief in a subject, no matter how vague it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,572 ✭✭✭msg11


    What a farce.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    But I've come to realize you should NEVER let what you would like to believe get in the way of your objective analysis and true belief in a subject, no matter how vague it is.
    Actually, my objective analysis of, and experience of working in and with systems, would in fact convince me that in even the poorest and unwieldy of systems there are people who genuinely struggle to make them work for the common good.

    Admittedly, none of my experience is with the American legal / judicial system.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Fremen wrote: »
    This is why private prisons are a shít idea.

    Not just private.

    You lock a young lad up for possesion of something people want like weed and he's just been enrolled in the university of 'crime'.

    Aslo, he has a stain on his character that will exclude him from many jobs so he hs less choices when it comes to future employment.

    just sayin


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Chav-arelli indeed.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Bosco boy


    Fremen wrote: »
    This is why private prisons are a shít idea.

    Not just private.

    You lock a young lad up for possesion of something people want like weed and he's just been enrolled in the university of 'crime'.

    Aslo, he has a stain on his character that will exclude him from many jobs so he hs less choices when it comes to future employment.

    just sayin

    are you suggesting that if there is a demand for something then if should be decriminalised? I'm sure there are a few peadophiles out there who'd relish that prospect.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭SuperInfinity


    Not just private.

    You lock a young lad up for possesion of something people want like weed and he's just been enrolled in the university of 'crime'.

    Aslo, he has a stain on his character that will exclude him from many jobs so he hs less choices when it comes to future employment.

    just sayin

    I think that criminal records should not be publically available to employers like that. It's bs. And worse are the employers who would pay attention to such a thing even if it's really minor.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    Bosco boy wrote: »
    are you suggesting that if there is a demand for something then if should be decriminalised? I'm sure there are a few peadophiles out there who'd relish that prospect.

    Can you tell the difference between the demand for a plant and the demand for a child to rape?


    Can you?


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