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Polar bear kills young British adventurer in Norway.

  • 05-08-2011 04:29PM
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    "A British adventurer has been killed by a polar bear that attacked an expedition organised by the British Schools Exploring Society.

    Four other people were injured by the animal, which the group then shot dead, at the Von Postbreen glacier on the island of Spitsbergen, part of the Svalbard archipelago.

    The party of around 80 were on a five-week expedition in the Arctic run by the BSES, a youth development charity.
    "

    What kind of irresponsible idiots were running this expedition?

    Polar Bears are perhaps the most deadliest of all mammals on the face of the planet and will think nothing of attacking and tearing a person apart if hungry or if their cubs or territory are in any threatened.

    Teddy bears must have given these people the false pretence that they were dealing with cuddly creatures when in fact in reality they were confronting one of the most deadliest mammals on earth.

    In the light of all this teddy bears should now be banned or at least come with a government warning stating that real bears are deadly.

    RIP to the victim in this case.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2022778/Polar-bear-mauls-death-British-tourist-Norway.html


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,037 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    Is the bear okay?

    edit:
    They killed the bear?
    Bastards get no sympathy from me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,975 ✭✭✭W.Shakes-Beer


    Read this earlier.

    Cruel fúckers for killing the bear. They were after all rambling into the bear's environment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    "A British adventurer has been killed by a polar bear that attacked an expedition organised by the British Schools Exploring Society.

    Four other people were injured by the animal, which the group then shot dead, at the Von Postbreen glacier on the island of Spitsbergen, part of the Svalbard archipelago.

    The party of around 80 were on a five-week expedition in the Arctic run by the BSES, a youth development charity.
    "

    What kind of irresponsible idiots were running this expedition?

    Polar Bears are perhaps the most deadliest of all mammals on the face of the planet and will think nothing of attacking and tearing a person apart if hungry or if their cubs or territory are in any threatened.

    Teddy bears must have given these people the false pretence that they were dealing with cuddly creatures when in fact in reality they were confronting one of the most deadliest mammals on earth.

    In the light of all this teddy bears should now be banned or at least come with a government warning stating that real bears are deadly.

    RIP to the victim in this case.


    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2022778/Polar-bear-mauls-death-British-tourist-Norway.html

    Yes. They are a threat to society as we know it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,274 ✭✭✭flas


    dont think they were right to kill the bear, it was its environment and terroritery and was doing what was natural to it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭FetchTheGin


    It's like a friggin bear jamberoo around here.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Proper Planning and Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance

    No detection system as recommended by the locals

    http://kho.unis.no/doc/Polar_bears_Svalbard.pdf

    RIP to the victim, what a way to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,938 ✭✭✭mackg


    It's not the bears it's the immigants


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    More proof that bears are soulless, godless, rampaging killing machines.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Poor bear, just looking for a bit of dinner :(


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,098 ✭✭✭Stinicker


    Anders Bearvik strikes again!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 872 ✭✭✭Sofa King Great


    I know they were on the bear's patch and all that but what do people expect them to have done once the bear began attacking them? They had to kill it!

    If a bear was after tearing my mate apart and was about to turn to me I wouldn't think twice about turning it into an ornament


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,645 ✭✭✭Daemos


    Bloody Norway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 232 ✭✭Angeles


    Whats with all the bear sympathy? I know its a beautiful and endangered animal and all but if it killed a friend of mine and/or came at me? The last thing on my mind while holding a gun aimed at it would be, awe but its cute and endangered!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    Rightfully so they killed the bear. Are people saying it is OK for something to kill a human-being and get away with it?

    If an animal in Ireland (mostly dogs and cats) bit or clawed a person more often than not it would get put down, need I say the penalty for killing a human. Plus there was also the fact that at that second the Bear killed injured 5 others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    CorkMan wrote: »
    Rightfully so they killed the bear. Are people saying it is OK for something to kill a human-being and get away with it?
    Uh...yes? Otherwise all you're doing is getting revenge against a creature which is incapable of understanding the concept.

    You're projecting human morality onto animals. I don't need to explain to you how utterly pointless and barbaric that is. Do you think that other polar bears will see what happened and be afraid? Do you think any purpose is served by killing an animal just because it's killed someone?

    Should we put them on trial too?

    Self-defence, I don't have a problem with. But clearly the idiots in charge of this expedition didn't take the necessary precautions in regards to detection and protection against polar bears. And now one guy is dead, 4 of his friends injured and one endangered animal destroyed.

    All because someone morons didn't plan correctly. An animal just does what it does. It can't be held accountable for its actions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    [Run_to_da_Hills]Obviously a false flag operation, say goodbye to any civil liberties you have left, all the prints of Mossad...[/Run_to_da_Hills]


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 449 ✭✭stephen_k


    Shoulda brought a pic-a-nic basket....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    flas wrote: »
    dont think they were right to kill the bear, it was its environment and terroritery and was doing what was natural to it

    the bear opened fire first...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Sytems fail even if they had taken adequate precautions. That's why firearms are necessary around dangerous animals. Some precautions were taken in terms of deterrent flares, but that, a system, failed, which is why there's a lethal option. Christ, if there were any opportunity, it should have been shot before it killed someone. After it killed a person, and the argument is that they shouldn't have been there? I'm going to wander where I want on this planet, and if I find myself in a situation where I have to kill dangerous animals to get home, I'm going to kill them, pretty, endangered, or no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 sunssocks


    would be left because this HUUUge g lobal w arming ...that all bears are drowned and starved because they choose not to hunt on land ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    I believe the argument for killing a wild animal after a fatal attack on a human is that that animal has then proven itself as a "maneater" that has the taste for human blood (does it taste different) and has proven itself as a danger to other humans...but in somewhere like svalbaard, how many humans are wandering around the ice-sheet at any one time?
    If this group and their minders were properly trained and had decent guides this should never have happened...few warning shots from a rifle or hit with a tranq dart and get the group moving.
    Are dangerous environments like this an apt place for novice explorers on a school/college trip?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Wertz wrote: »
    I believe the argument for killing a wild animal after a fatal attack on a human is that that animal has then proven itself as a "maneater" that has the taste for human blood (does it taste different) and has proven itself as a danger to other humans...but in somewhere like svalbaard, how many humans are wandering around the ice-sheet at any one time?
    If this group and their minders were properly trained and had decent guides this should never have happened...few warning shots from a rifle or hit with a tranq dart and get the group moving.
    Are dangerous environments like this an apt place for novice explorers on a school/college trip?

    No, it's that the animal is still there, still posing a threat. You don't fire warning shots. There's no such thing. They won't deter animals and they're a waste of ammo you might need. Tranquilisers? They take a long time to work, while the animal is meanwhile confused and enraged.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    Is the bear okay?

    edit:
    They killed the bear?
    Bastards get no sympathy from me.

    What if you lived in Montana in the states, and you look out your back window and see a bear in your back yard. Do you ring the Gardaí and wait 20 minutes for them to call round or do you arm yourself with a rifle?

    It's people like you who are glad scumbags get off scot free are kicking 10 different colours of **** out of an innocent person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Wertz wrote: »
    I believe the argument for killing a wild animal after a fatal attack on a human is that that animal has then proven itself as a "maneater" that has the taste for human blood (does it taste different) and has proven itself as a danger to other humans...but in somewhere like svalbaard, how many humans are wandering around the ice-sheet at any one time?
    All large carnivores are maneaters. It's a myth about "taste for human blood", it all pretty much tastes the same.

    Polar bears are notoriously dangerous because food is hard to come by when they live in such isolation. They've evolved massive strength and bulk so that they can attack and kill pretty much any living thing they encounter because they need to do so in order to survive.

    This is why anyone going exploring that far North needs to be ultra-prepared.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Stinicker wrote: »
    Anders Bearvik strikes again!
    They should send him up to this place and make him play with the bears.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    Teddy bears must have given these people the false pretence that they were dealing with cuddly creatures when in fact in reality they were confronting one of the most deadliest mammals on earth.

    In the light of all this teddy bears should now be banned or at least come with a government warning stating that real bears are deadly.
    The starving animal attacked the group of 13 young explorers at 7.30am today as they were sleeping on the Norwegian island of Svalbard on a dream wildlife trip.

    Because if they knew they were dangerous they wouldnt have been sleeping at 7.30am ? They didnt walk up to play with the fukin thing it tore through the tent while they were asleep.

    And I agree if the the bear is still a threat you kill it. I dont like seeing animals getting killed when they are just doing what they do and looking for a bit of grub but after killin one kid you dont try shoo it away, you put a bullet in its head.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Mr. Denton


    The Bearfaced cheek of it all!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,003 ✭✭✭CorkMan


    seamus wrote: »
    Uh...yes? Otherwise all you're doing is getting revenge against a creature which is incapable of understanding the concept.

    You're projecting human morality onto animals. I don't need to explain to you how utterly pointless and barbaric that is. Do you think that other polar bears will see what happened and be afraid? Do you think any purpose is served by killing an animal just because it's killed someone?

    Should we put them on trial too?

    Self-defence, I don't have a problem with. But clearly the idiots in charge of this expedition didn't take the necessary precautions in regards to detection and protection against polar bears. And now one guy is dead, 4 of his friends injured and one endangered animal destroyed.

    All because someone morons didn't plan correctly. An animal just does what it does. It can't be held accountable for its actions.

    All I know is that the Polar Bear killed 1 Human and injured 5 others. The bear more than likely chased them down and then attacked. Just because he "didn't have morality" about what happened doesn't mean it is alright for it to happen. The man who killed the bear won't be charged and rightfully so. He will get a nice medal that he will wear on his top.

    And yes I do think the polar bears would be afraid if they saw fellow Polar Bears being slain at ease, they would hesitate to go near humans in the future, regardless of whether a human has a gun or not. (Though I am not advocating Polar Bear hunting.) As for being putting bears on trial, large segments of the human world don't have trials for their human population so why an animal? (Plus who would bear the blunt of the costs of charging the said bear 0_o)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,909 ✭✭✭✭Wertz


    Fair point on the polar bear's lack of available prey. Not really the same as a big cat or a land based bear that shares some of it's environment with us and has other feeding opportunities. I know the taste of human blood thing is rubbish...but the fear an animal, that lives in proximity to us, should have of attacking a human is lessened when it has gotten away with it, thus one that has a proven track record for attacking/killing has to be prevented from doing so again...that probably doesn't apply to the polar bear in this case. Any attack is instinctual...but any action by humans to deter such an attack is just as instinctual...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭beks101


    seamus wrote: »
    Uh...yes? Otherwise all you're doing is getting revenge against a creature which is incapable of understanding the concept.

    You're projecting human morality onto animals. I don't need to explain to you how utterly pointless and barbaric that is. Do you think that other polar bears will see what happened and be afraid? Do you think any purpose is served by killing an animal just because it's killed someone?

    Should we put them on trial too?

    I don't think they shot the bear to 'teach it a lesson' in fairness...regardless of how retarded the expedition organisers were, here you had a camp of teenagers, one dead and four seriously injured versus a 1,000 lb vicious predator and one of nature's most dangerous on a feeding rampage, I think morality was fairly low down on the list of priorities.

    Seriously not getting how people think there was any other option but to shoot the animal? Seriously??


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