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Sellafield's Mox fuel plant to close

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  • #32
    Chuck Stone
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    Biggins wrote: »
    Now bend over! :p:D

    Run awayyyyyyyyyyyyyy

    http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3101/3154521722_8b5f2ab674.jpg


  • #33
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Biggins wrote: »
    Sellafield?

    O' ...you mean "Windscale" as it was called when things got so bad with fires and leaks that they did a PR job - and renamed it so the masses of sheep in Ireland could forget about it with their short memories the politicians hoped they would have!
    Sellafield?

    renamed :confused:


    Ah, you mean Calder Hall ;)


  • #34
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    Sellafield?

    renamed :confused:

    Ah, you mean Calder Hall ;)
    Now you'll get them all confused! :pac:

    We can't be having that - we best leave that to those that are doing the constant renaming.
    Good little chaps that they are. They wouldn't be doing it to confuse the public of course! :D


  • #35
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Einhard wrote: »

    The death toll from Fukushima is 0.
    .
    Early days yet, deaths and deformities from the Chernobyl incident did not appear night, in fact they went on for decades. Radiation exposure and the follow up cancer is a horrible thing and can effect the unborn.


  • #36
    imitation
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭imitation


    Like it or not, Nuclear power is here to stay (unless something better is found) as it is a far more sustainable fuel source than fossil fuels. Its very easy to get rid of Nuclear power now as a political statement and as a panacea, but when the oil is all gone people will have a simple choice between living in the dark or living with the boogyman.

    Wind and solar are all well and good, but in a power grid they can only be the minority, they can't replace fossil or Nuclear fuel.


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  • #37
    stimpson
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    Gunmonkey wrote: »

    B) got hit by the 4th largest earthquake recorded on Earth and then the subsequent tsunami, and then only 1 of the 4 reactors was crippled, and still didnt go into full meltdown. Oh and it was a 40 year old plant, so didnt have a lot of the safety protocols that modern plants do. Worst you could level at the Fukushima disaster was the piss-poor placing (by the sea to use the water to cool the reactor easier).



    Sorry, but this is a gross oversimplification. Off the top of my head, they can be accused of:

    * adapting one reactor to run on MOX fuel which contains plutonium 239. One of the most toxic substances known to man. It has a half life of 24,000 years. Not even the Russians were that stupid.

    * storing used fuel rods above the reactors

    * "re racking" the fuel storage so it could hold more rods than originally designed for

    * not doing sufficient (any?) modeling on what would happen if a monster earthquake happened

    * insufficient failsafes

    * lying about the severity of the accident early on

    The MOX thing is super scary. If that gets out into the environment you can kiss goodbye to Tokyo.

    Now think of how many badly run stations there are around the world and the consequences of a major disaster in one every 25 years.


  • #38
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    stimpson wrote: »

    The MOX thing is super scary. If that gets out into the environment you can kiss goodbye to Tokyo.
    It has already been spewing out of reactor 3 for weeks while people were foolishly led to believe that it was the same material that was spewing out of the other three.


  • #39
    Eoin_Sheehy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 274 ✭✭Eoin_Sheehy


    FatherLen wrote: »
    oh good. remember the iodine tablets??? no need for them now!!!

    They expired in 2008 I think, pointless.


  • #40
    lemd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭lemd


    There is an episode of BBC Horizon called "Nuclear Nightmares" about the effects of radiation and how it may not be as bad as we think and even beneficial at lower doses.
    I don't think links to copyrighted material are allowed here but a quick google would turn it up. Just thought some of you might find it interesting.


  • #41
    LighterGuy
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    I remember around 10-15 years ago when I was a kid, each home was given emergency tablets in case of an "accident" with sellafield.

    being older and looking back, what on earth could those tablets do if nuclear radiation is blowing over?!?


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  • #42
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    FatherLen wrote: »
    oh good. remember the iodine tablets??? no need for them now!!!
    Apparently they are suppose to turn hallucinogenic after 9 years. :)


  • #43
    lemd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭lemd


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    I remember around 10-15 years ago when I was a kid, each home was given emergency tablets in case of an "accident" with sellafield.

    being older and looking back, what on earth could those tablets do if nuclear radiation is blowing over?!?

    They were iodine tablets. Certain radioactive isotopes collect in the thyroid gland and cause thyroid cancer. The iodine in the tablets also collects in the same gland and stops the radioactive material from being absorbed.

    More info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potassium_iodide


  • #44
    AlmightyCushion
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,351 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    I remember around 10-15 years ago when I was a kid, each home was given emergency tablets in case of an "accident" with sellafield.

    being older and looking back, what on earth could those tablets do if nuclear radiation is blowing over?!?

    It helps to prevent thyroid cancer. They fill your thyroid full of non-radioactive iodine, stopping the radioactive iodine released by the nuclear accident from being stored there.


  • #45
    LighterGuy
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    AlmightyCushion wrote: »
    It helps to prevent thyroid cancer. They fill your thyroid full of non-radioactive iodine, stopping the radioactive iodine released by the nuclear accident from being stored there.

    But you would still die from other things knowing the event of nuclear radiation, right?


  • #46
    Chuck Stone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    But you would still die from other things knowing the event of nuclear radiation, right?

    I guess it depends on the doseage and which toxin it is.

    I was watching a program (I think it was Coast) and there was a radioative leak from a power station yonks ago on the north coast of Scotchland which contaminated a, now off limits, beach.

    I can't remember exactly what toxin it was (plutonium or sezium if forced to guess) but he said that ingesting one tiny particles was almost certain death.

    He said it was akin to having a tiny little bit of glowing coal cooking your insides. Those particles will be fatally radioactive for decades.

    Scary stuff.


  • #47
    AlmightyCushion
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    LighterGuy wrote: »
    But you would still die from other things knowing the event of nuclear radiation, right?

    Depends. If there was enough other radioactive elements released from the accident then yes. Look at Chernobyl though, there was no increase in the rates of cancer apart from thyroid cancer.


  • #48
    papu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭papu


    Its Good to see the Mox plan close , there are better and safer ways of harnessing the power of Nuclear energy with modern plants,Which when compared to Fossil Fuel is much more efficent , safe and Less poluting to the environment as a whole. As our energy demand increases we're eventually going to run out of things to burn


  • #49
    lemd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭lemd


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    But you would still die from other things knowing the event of nuclear radiation, right?

    Depends, it takes massive doses for radiation to kill directly, moderate to high increase the risk of cancer and there are studies that show low doses may actually make you more resistant. The effects of low radiation doses (<100 mS) are poorly researched.

    Here is a link to a pdf about the risks of radiation: http://www.rpii.ie/CMSPages/GetFile.aspx?nodeguid=5155fafc-fb01-4702-a196-f0ca1329039c&PublicationID=1583

    And here is a link to the RPII (Radiological Protection Institute of Ireland): http://www.rpii.ie/.aspx
    Interesting website, well worth a look.


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