Michael D Higgins, a bit to much to the left?

CommuterIE · 03-08-2011 08:19PM #1

What is it about Irish Presidential elections that bring out all of the lefties?

Anyway, this is the same Michael D who in the 60's went to America and couldn't comprehend how some people in a nation use the term "white thrash". Maybe he hadn't heard the word "knacker" over here?

It's also the same Michael D who was up in arms about Americas involvement in South America with his outrageously rabid commentary on the whole thing, basically America was propping up dictators to try and prevent leftist and religious nuts toppling them... I'd say was more of Higgins extreme left agenda than anything else...

It is concerning that this guy, as geriatric as he is now, but even so this country is dependent on American investment, they'll see him as President of Ireland spouting leftist gibberish. Even though it is mostly a ceremonial role, Americans in general may see him as some kind of leader and put them off with his rethoric.

Eric Cartman · 03-08-2011 08:22PM

hes a true representation of the looney left trying to prop up his pension and retire on easy street . Dont know why anyone would vote for him. His left wing socialist agenda can do nothing but negative to the country

FearDark · 03-08-2011 08:24PM

Ah sure he's likeable...

hatrickpatrick · 03-08-2011 08:25PM

So wait a second... what exactly is wrong with slamming those who hypocritically support dictators whilst harping on about "freedom" in other parts of the world?

Fair f*cking dues to him I say. We need a president who will "dare" to call people out on their BS when required, unlike MacAleese when Bush was here who had the opportunity to put him on the spot about Rendition and instead only noted "concern" about it.

Do you want a strong spokesman for this country, or a pushover???

Uriel. · 03-08-2011 08:26PM

FÃ¼cking lefties... Let's get 'em

mickrock · 03-08-2011 08:27PM

He's too short-arsed.

Mike 1972 · 03-08-2011 08:27PM

CommuterIE wrote: »

What is it about Irish Presidential elections that bring out all of the lefties?

You really dont understand the concept of an election do you ?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Dont know why anyone would vote for him. His left wing socialist agenda can do nothing but negative to the country

:pac: Maybe because they dont actually like his left wing socialist agenda and under the circumstances consider it a smart tactical move to elect him to an office where he wont really be capable of doing much harm with his agenda -namely the Irish presidency

hmmm · 03-08-2011 08:28PM

I haven't a clue who to vote for now. I know the last thing I need is 7 years of Michael D ranting on about the Palestinians, giving out about America and lecturing us through the medium of crap poetry.

Who are these Davis and Gallagher people?

Revolution9 · 03-08-2011 08:28PM

So we shall elect Presidents based on their opinions on American foreign policy? This will be fun.

Chuck Stone · 03-08-2011 08:31PM

Presidents?

Why don't they just use one of those ventriloquists to operate a puppet.

I'd vote for that puppet for sure.

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FlutterinBantam · 03-08-2011 08:34PM

Now this is "Very important"

God help us all if the 'lovable elf' gets elected

Left wing rhetoric coming out our ears.

Extra fuel tanks on the Govt. jet

Every fcuking flyblown cause examined.

Anti-Us stance results in all the multis leaving.

Waffle and discussion and debate to beat the band all resulting in:

fcuk all, except mega expenses for the hot -air blowers in our society.

Keep this gob****e out of the Arus at all costs.

He will break the country

Eve_Dublin · 03-08-2011 08:34PM

I think he's deadly. He'd most definitely be getting my vote if I was home. I wish he was my dad.

Dirk Gently · 03-08-2011 08:34PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

His left wing socialist agenda can do nothing but negative to the country

Why do people (including presidential candidates) believe the president has any input into political policy? He'll cut ribbons and visit schools like all other presidents before him. The race for president basically boils down to who you want to give a golden handshake to. You can give the cheque to the lefty, the christian conservative or the FF dragon but none of them will have any relevance to the political direction of the country.

03-08-2011 08:35PM

hmmm wrote: »

I haven't a clue who to vote for now. I know the last thing I need is 7 years of Michael D ranting on about the Palestinians, giving out about America and lecturing us through the medium of crap poetry.

Who are these Davis and Gallagher people?

Sean Gallagher is a tool from that tv show Dragon's Den.

Sonnenblumen · 03-08-2011 08:35PM

hmmm wrote: »

I haven't a clue who to vote for now. I know the last thing I need is 7 years of Michael D ranting on about the Palestinians, giving out about America and lecturing us through the medium of crap poetry.

Who are these Davis and Gallagher people?

Don't be so negative, word has it, a singer is about to enter the competition.

To complete the X-factor looney line up of choice we need one more candidate, a knowall keyboard warrior.

Eric Cartman · 03-08-2011 08:37PM

hmmm wrote: »

I haven't a clue who to vote for now. I know the last thing I need is 7 years of Michael D ranting on about the Palestinians, giving out about America and lecturing us through the medium of crap poetry.

Who are these Davis and Gallagher people?

Sean Gallagher is a very successful businessman with decent leadership qualities whos running as an independent candidate , hed be a center/right aligned and would really do rather well for Ireland if people would give him a chance, hed be the best for bringing business and jobs into Ireland , which is what we need right now

CommuterIE · 03-08-2011 08:38PM

Dirk Gently wrote: »

Why do people (including presidential candidates) believe the president has any input into political policy? He'll cut ribbons and visit schools like all other presidents before him. The race for president basically boils down to who you want to give a golden handshake to. You can give the cheque to the lefty, the christian conservative or the FF dragon but none of them will have any relevance to the political direction of the country.

It's the image he portrays abroad that matters...

Imagine David Norris was able to continue his campaign, with the world knowing he pleaded clemency for a convicted child rapist (on senate paper, effectively what he did was put your name on it)? In this day and age, with all that we know now about the buggering by the priests in this country, this guy shouldn't have even been let run for it due to his previous controversial remarks...

steddyeddy · 03-08-2011 08:40PM

The left and right are two political terms that should be done away with. Can anyone give me exact definitions of what they consider to be left or right?

Eric Cartman · 03-08-2011 08:43PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

The left and right are two political terms that should be done away with. Can anyone give me exact definitions of what they consider to be left or right?

political compass can be of assistance ,

Who you should vote for

Eve_Dublin · 03-08-2011 08:43PM

CommuterIE wrote: »

It's the image he portrays abroad that matters...

Imagine David Norris was able to continue his campaign, with the world knowing he pleaded clemency for a convicted child rapist (on senate paper, effectively what he did was put your name on it)? In this day and age, with all that we know now about the buggering by the priests in this country, this guy shouldn't have even been let run for it due to his previous controversial remarks...

Ehhh.....we're talking about someone else here...what dirt have you dug up about Michael D?

pragmatic1 · 03-08-2011 08:44PM

Hes getting my vote anyway. Bosco for president.

staker · 03-08-2011 08:44PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Sean Gallagher is a very successful businessman with decent leadership qualities whos running as an independent candidate , hed be a center/right aligned and would really do rather well for Ireland if people would give him a chance, hed be the best for bringing business and jobs into Ireland , which is what we need right now

I'd agree with the potential investment aspect he could bring to the table,but when he entered the fray I winced.
Too much a case of the best of a bad lot though..

FlutterinBantam · 03-08-2011 08:44PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

The left and right are two political terms that should be done away with. Can anyone give me exact definitions of what they consider to be left or right?

Maggie Thatcher =right

Arthur Scargill= left.

Now for fcuks sake don't say you don't understand that?

Sonnenblumen · 03-08-2011 08:46PM

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Sean Gallagher is a very successful businessman with decent leadership qualities whos running as an independent candidate , hed be a center/right aligned and would really do rather well for Ireland if people would give him a chance, hed be the best for bringing business and jobs into Ireland , which is what we need right now

A nice piece of believe it or not but most definitely not.

I'd like to know more of the success (hardly Smarthomes?), decent leadership qualities (again some examples) and independent candidate, you've got to be joking. SG has a long allegiance with Fianna Fail. He failed to get a FF nomination at the last election.

Hi sposition is subject to change (to suit his agenda). I've no idea of his home or recent record for creating jobs. I guess it would help the already very well resourced state organizations tasked with this key objective.

The office of President is much wider than an RTE celeb, and poor SG is utterly lacking when it would come to the wider cultural demands/challenges of the Office.

steddyeddy · 03-08-2011 08:46PM

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Maggie Thatcher =right

Arthur Scargill= left.

Now for fcuks sake don't say you don't understand that?

I understand what your saying but right and left doesnt cover the political ideals of these two at all. You have given my people who are right and left can you explain how they are right and left?

RayM · 03-08-2011 08:53PM

I'll be voting for Michael D. Higgins. He's a very impressive orator, and I usually find myself agreeing with what he says. The fact that (as seen on this thread) he really seems to irritate a certain type of right-winger is just the icing on the cake.

charlemont · 03-08-2011 08:55PM

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Maggie Thatcher =right

Arthur Scargill= left.

Now for fcuks sake don't say you don't understand that?

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00745/SNF04MAG04_380_745755a.jpg
I think she must have got confused herself here.

Mike 1972 · 03-08-2011 08:56PM

RayM wrote: »

The fact that (as seen on this thread) he really seems to irritate a certain type of right-winger is just the icing on the cake.

TBH Ive never been a massive fan of the guy but "The fact that (as seen on this thread) he really seems to irritate a certain type of right-winger" might well yet bring me around :pac:

Biggins · 03-08-2011 09:00PM

Dirk Gently wrote: »

Why do people (including presidential candidates) believe the president has any input into political policy? He'll cut ribbons and visit schools like all other presidents before him. The race for president basically boils down to who you want to give a golden handshake to. You can give the cheque to the lefty, the christian conservative or the FF dragon but none of them will have any relevance to the political direction of the country.

Your right a great deal in what you say.
There is one big problem however.
The person that we elect is supposed to be representing as such, the people of Ireland and perhaps our combined outlook and attitude, to the rest of the world.
We then by that thinking might have to be careful (to keep doors open to us more so) not to go electing any extremes* that might be portraying us as such in follow-up.

* I'm still open minded as to how extreme Higgins is, as some put say he is.
I'm personally not saying Higgins IS extreme.

The above is just random thoughts and open to be off-base, wrong etc.

FlutterinBantam · 03-08-2011 09:01PM

steddyeddy wrote: »

I understand what your saying but right and left doesnt cover the political ideals of these two at all. You have given my people who are right and left can you explain how they are right and left?

In what way Sir.

Dirk Gently · 03-08-2011 09:02PM

RayM wrote: »

The fact that (as seen on this thread) he really seems to irritate a certain type of right-winger is just the icing on the cake.

best reason to vote for him tbh.

Michael D Higgins, a bit to much to the left?

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