Michael D Higgins, a bit to much to the left?

CommuterIE

What is it about Irish Presidential elections that bring out all of the lefties?

Anyway, this is the same Michael D who in the 60's went to America and couldn't comprehend how some people in a nation use the term "white thrash". Maybe he hadn't heard the word "knacker" over here?

It's also the same Michael D who was up in arms about Americas involvement in South America with his outrageously rabid commentary on the whole thing, basically America was propping up dictators to try and prevent leftist and religious nuts toppling them... I'd say was more of Higgins extreme left agenda than anything else...

It is concerning that this guy, as geriatric as he is now, but even so this country is dependent on American investment, they'll see him as President of Ireland spouting leftist gibberish. Even though it is mostly a ceremonial role, Americans in general may see him as some kind of leader and put them off with his rethoric.

Eric Cartman

hes a true representation of the looney left trying to prop up his pension and retire on easy street . Dont know why anyone would vote for him. His left wing socialist agenda can do nothing but negative to the country

FearDark

Ah sure he's likeable...

hatrickpatrick

So wait a second... what exactly is wrong with slamming those who hypocritically support dictators whilst harping on about "freedom" in other parts of the world?

Fair f*cking dues to him I say. We need a president who will "dare" to call people out on their BS when required, unlike MacAleese when Bush was here who had the opportunity to put him on the spot about Rendition and instead only noted "concern" about it.

Do you want a strong spokesman for this country, or a pushover???

Uriel.

Fücking lefties... Let's get 'em

mickrock

He's too short-arsed.

Mike 1972

CommuterIE wrote: »

What is it about Irish Presidential elections that bring out all of the lefties?

You really dont understand the concept of an election do you ?

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Dont know why anyone would vote for him. His left wing socialist agenda can do nothing but negative to the country

:pac: Maybe because they dont actually like his left wing socialist agenda and under the circumstances consider it a smart tactical move to elect him to an office where he wont really be capable of doing much harm with his agenda -namely the Irish presidency

hmmm

I haven't a clue who to vote for now. I know the last thing I need is 7 years of Michael D ranting on about the Palestinians, giving out about America and lecturing us through the medium of crap poetry.

Who are these Davis and Gallagher people?

Revolution9

So we shall elect Presidents based on their opinions on American foreign policy? This will be fun.

Chuck Stone

Presidents?

Why don't they just use one of those ventriloquists to operate a puppet.

I'd vote for that puppet for sure.



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FlutterinBantam

Now this is "Very important"

God help us all if the 'lovable elf' gets elected

Left wing rhetoric coming out our ears.

Extra fuel tanks on the Govt. jet

Every fcuking flyblown cause examined.

Anti-Us stance results in all the multis leaving.

Waffle and discussion and debate to beat the band all resulting in:


fcuk all, except mega expenses for the hot -air blowers in our society.

Keep this gob****e out of the Arus at all costs.


He will break the country

Eve_Dublin

I think he's deadly. He'd most definitely be getting my vote if I was home. I wish he was my dad.

Dirk Gently

Eric Cartman wrote: »

His left wing socialist agenda can do nothing but negative to the country

Why do people (including presidential candidates) believe the president has any input into political policy? He'll cut ribbons and visit schools like all other presidents before him. The race for president basically boils down to who you want to give a golden handshake to. You can give the cheque to the lefty, the christian conservative or the FF dragon but none of them will have any relevance to the political direction of the country.

hmmm

hmmm wrote: »

I haven't a clue who to vote for now. I know the last thing I need is 7 years of Michael D ranting on about the Palestinians, giving out about America and lecturing us through the medium of crap poetry.

Who are these Davis and Gallagher people?

Sean Gallagher is a tool from that tv show Dragon's Den.

Sonnenblumen

hmmm wrote: »

I haven't a clue who to vote for now. I know the last thing I need is 7 years of Michael D ranting on about the Palestinians, giving out about America and lecturing us through the medium of crap poetry.

Who are these Davis and Gallagher people?

Don't be so negative, word has it, a singer is about to enter the competition.

To complete the X-factor looney line up of choice we need one more candidate, a knowall keyboard warrior.

Eric Cartman

hmmm wrote: »

I haven't a clue who to vote for now. I know the last thing I need is 7 years of Michael D ranting on about the Palestinians, giving out about America and lecturing us through the medium of crap poetry.

Who are these Davis and Gallagher people?

Sean Gallagher is a very successful businessman with decent leadership qualities whos running as an independent candidate , hed be a center/right aligned and would really do rather well for Ireland if people would give him a chance, hed be the best for bringing business and jobs into Ireland , which is what we need right now

CommuterIE

Dirk Gently wrote: »

Why do people (including presidential candidates) believe the president has any input into political policy? He'll cut ribbons and visit schools like all other presidents before him. The race for president basically boils down to who you want to give a golden handshake to. You can give the cheque to the lefty, the christian conservative or the FF dragon but none of them will have any relevance to the political direction of the country.

It's the image he portrays abroad that matters...

Imagine David Norris was able to continue his campaign, with the world knowing he pleaded clemency for a convicted child rapist (on senate paper, effectively what he did was put your name on it)? In this day and age, with all that we know now about the buggering by the priests in this country, this guy shouldn't have even been let run for it due to his previous controversial remarks...

steddyeddy

The left and right are two political terms that should be done away with. Can anyone give me exact definitions of what they consider to be left or right?

Eric Cartman

steddyeddy wrote: »

The left and right are two political terms that should be done away with. Can anyone give me exact definitions of what they consider to be left or right?

political compass can be of assistance ,

Who you should vote for

Eve_Dublin

CommuterIE wrote: »

It's the image he portrays abroad that matters...

Imagine David Norris was able to continue his campaign, with the world knowing he pleaded clemency for a convicted child rapist (on senate paper, effectively what he did was put your name on it)? In this day and age, with all that we know now about the buggering by the priests in this country, this guy shouldn't have even been let run for it due to his previous controversial remarks...

Ehhh.....we're talking about someone else here...what dirt have you dug up about Michael D?

pragmatic1

Hes getting my vote anyway. Bosco for president.

staker

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Sean Gallagher is a very successful businessman with decent leadership qualities whos running as an independent candidate , hed be a center/right aligned and would really do rather well for Ireland if people would give him a chance, hed be the best for bringing business and jobs into Ireland , which is what we need right now

I'd agree with the potential investment aspect he could bring to the table,but when he entered the fray I winced.
Too much a case of the best of a bad lot though..

FlutterinBantam

steddyeddy wrote: »

The left and right are two political terms that should be done away with. Can anyone give me exact definitions of what they consider to be left or right?

Maggie Thatcher =right

Arthur Scargill= left.

Now for fcuks sake don't say you don't understand that?

Sonnenblumen

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Sean Gallagher is a very successful businessman with decent leadership qualities whos running as an independent candidate , hed be a center/right aligned and would really do rather well for Ireland if people would give him a chance, hed be the best for bringing business and jobs into Ireland , which is what we need right now

A nice piece of believe it or not but most definitely not.

I'd like to know more of the success (hardly Smarthomes?), decent leadership qualities (again some examples) and independent candidate, you've got to be joking. SG has a long allegiance with Fianna Fail. He failed to get a FF nomination at the last election.

Hi sposition is subject to change (to suit his agenda). I've no idea of his home or recent record for creating jobs. I guess it would help the already very well resourced state organizations tasked with this key objective.

The office of President is much wider than an RTE celeb, and poor SG is utterly lacking when it would come to the wider cultural demands/challenges of the Office.

steddyeddy

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Maggie Thatcher =right

Arthur Scargill= left.

Now for fcuks sake don't say you don't understand that?

I understand what your saying but right and left doesnt cover the political ideals of these two at all. You have given my people who are right and left can you explain how they are right and left?

RayM

I'll be voting for Michael D. Higgins. He's a very impressive orator, and I usually find myself agreeing with what he says. The fact that (as seen on this thread) he really seems to irritate a certain type of right-winger is just the icing on the cake.

charlemont

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

Maggie Thatcher =right

Arthur Scargill= left.

Now for fcuks sake don't say you don't understand that?

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00745/SNF04MAG04_380_745755a.jpg
I think she must have got confused herself here.

Mike 1972

RayM wrote: »

The fact that (as seen on this thread) he really seems to irritate a certain type of right-winger is just the icing on the cake.

TBH Ive never been a massive fan of the guy but "The fact that (as seen on this thread) he really seems to irritate a certain type of right-winger" might well yet bring me around :pac:

Biggins

Dirk Gently wrote: »

Why do people (including presidential candidates) believe the president has any input into political policy? He'll cut ribbons and visit schools like all other presidents before him. The race for president basically boils down to who you want to give a golden handshake to. You can give the cheque to the lefty, the christian conservative or the FF dragon but none of them will have any relevance to the political direction of the country.

Your right a great deal in what you say.
There is one big problem however.
The person that we elect is supposed to be representing as such, the people of Ireland and perhaps our combined outlook and attitude, to the rest of the world.
We then by that thinking might have to be careful (to keep doors open to us more so) not to go electing any extremes* that might be portraying us as such in follow-up.


* I'm still open minded as to how extreme Higgins is, as some put say he is.
I'm personally not saying Higgins IS extreme.

The above is just random thoughts and open to be off-base, wrong etc.

FlutterinBantam

steddyeddy wrote: »

I understand what your saying but right and left doesnt cover the political ideals of these two at all. You have given my people who are right and left can you explain how they are right and left?

In what way Sir.

Dirk Gently

RayM wrote: »

The fact that (as seen on this thread) he really seems to irritate a certain type of right-winger is just the icing on the cake.

best reason to vote for him tbh.

dvpower

CommuterIE wrote: »

What is it about Irish Presidential elections that bring out all of the lefties?

Anyway, this is the same Michael D who in the 60's went to America and couldn't comprehend how some people in a nation use the term "white thrash". Maybe he hadn't heard the word "knacker" over here?

He said something stupid in the 60s:eek: - put him the pile with Norris.

pappyodaniel

Who cares what his leaning is. What has your cock and balls hangin to the left in your trousers got to do with how good he'd be as President. Gee has been king in Aras now for too long.

FlutterinBantam

pappyodaniel wrote: »

Who cares what his leaning is. What has your cock and balls hangin to the left in your trousers got to do with how good he's be as President. Gee has been king in Aras now for too long.

Agreed.

Gay Mitchell is your man then.

Richard Hillman

he is too far to the left and too old for the job

Mike 1972

Richard Hillman wrote: »

too old for the job

Its never struck me as a job which might be considered particularly demanding TBH

Phill Ewinn

All politics in Ireland has come down to two headings. Pro-traitor and non-traitor. Since he doesn't belong to the FF/FG party I'll be putting him down as non-traitor for now.

Might as well vote for him so. Geriatric lefty in a posh suit. Well he might just fit in with this pointless office.

RayM

Biggins wrote: »

* I'm still open minded as to how extreme Higgins is, as some put say he is.
I'm personally not saying Higgins IS extreme.

You only have to look through this thread to see that the type of people who scream about him being 'extreme'... aren't exactly 'middle of the road' themselves.

For instance, the idea - as shat out by FlutterinBantam - that a (hypothetical) President Higgins will lead US multinationals to relocate is frankly laughable. Preposterous nonsense altogether. They're here, not because we allowed torture victims to be transported through Shannon Airport, but because they don't like paying tax.

Eviledna

You'd think at his age he'd be taking it easier given his age, but last winter during the freezing cold days of the General Election campaign he was the only politican to call to my door, not send a lacky, and he was campaigning for his sucessor! He stayed a while and answered my (challenging) questions honestly and genuinely.

He's an intellegent and well educated gentleman. I hope he gets it.

Biggins

charlemont wrote: »

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00745/SNF04MAG04_380_745755a.jpg
I think she must have got confused herself here.

She saw the light eventually.

(Sorry - couldn't resist.)

Eric Cartman

RayM wrote: »

You only have to look through this thread to see that the type of people who scream about him being 'extreme'... aren't exactly 'middle of the road' themselves.

For instance, the idea - as shat out by FlutterinBantam - that a (hypothetical) President Higgins will lead US multinationals to relocate is frankly laughable. Preposterous nonsense altogether. They're here, not because we allowed torture victims to be transported through Shannon Airport, but because they don't like paying tax.

but the ideals of right wing economics are low tax, small goverment and low spending (i.e. decreased welfare and the privatization of services), as pointless as the office of the president is , its the left that have caused those companies to leave with the ever increasing tax needs , so the last thing we need is more of them with a voice

Sir Gallagher

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Sean Gallagher is a very successful businessman with decent leadership qualities whos running as an independent candidate , hed be a center/right aligned and would really do rather well for Ireland if people would give him a chance, hed be the best for bringing business and jobs into Ireland , which is what we need right now

He should be disqualified purely because he has no neck, eyes and is from Cavan.

FlutterinBantam

RayM wrote: »

You only have to look through this thread to see that the type of people who scream about him being 'extreme'... aren't exactly 'middle of the road' themselves.

For instance, the idea - as shat out by FlutterinBantam - that a (hypothetical) President Higgins will lead US multinationals to relocate is frankly laughable. Preposterous nonsense altogether. They're here, not because we allowed torture victims to be transported through Shannon Airport, but because they don't like paying tax.

:eek:

my golden bollix pal!!

This geezer got his degree, if I am correct from an American University, Oklahoma possibly, and once he has used the system, he hasn't stopped critisising the US ant every hands turn.

This guy pays more attention to Iraqi/Palestinian politics because it generates more travel and expenses,rather than the Gort floods a few years back when he was nowhere to be seen.

Amongst his own people friend.


Go figure that one out mate.

humberklog

A pious, unctuous little bollix whose vanity knows no bounds.

And far too old.

Biggins

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Sean Gallagher is a very successful businessman with decent leadership qualities whos running as an independent candidate , hed be a center/right aligned and would really do rather well for Ireland if people would give him a chance, hed be the best for bringing business and jobs into Ireland , which is what we need right now

* Leadership qualities? What has he previously lead politically? I ask because being a president is not the same as running a business as far as I know.
* Independent candidate? Thats debatable too.
* "He'd be a center/right aligned" - Aye Fianna Fail again in all but name.
* "If people would give him a chance... - Gawd I hope not.
* "He'd be the best for bringing business and jobs into Ireland, which is what we need right now" - Now this to his credit MIGHT be true but at what additional cost to the country in respect of the above previous and perhaps more that others might point out?

FlutterinBantam

humberklog wrote: »

A pious, unctuous little bollix whose vanity knows no bounds.

And far too old.

So much hate in so few words!

Kudos Humber, I'm jealous:mad:

humberklog

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

So much hate in so few words!

Kudos Humber, I'm jealous:mad:

, now I'm proud. Or as Micky Twee himself might say- "My pride was bursting, like the clouds pregnant with rain."

squod

Eric Cartman wrote: »

Sean Gallagher is a very successful businessman with decent leadership qualities whos running as an independent candidate , hed be a center/right aligned and would really do rather well for Ireland if people would give him a chance, hed be the best for bringing business and jobs into Ireland , which is what we need right now

Sean Gallagher is as independent a a back bench Fianna Fail TD. Really hope he falls off the earth with the rest of them. If there was anything I could reasonably do to convince the general public not to vote for him I'd do it.

Eric Cartman

squod wrote: »

Sean Gallagher is as independent a a back bench Fianna Fail TD. Really hope he falls off the earth with the rest of them. If there was anything I could reasonably do to convince the general public not to vote for him I'd do it.

AH really has to get this chip off their shoulder about FF , they didnt cause it all , and not everyone in FF is bad, biffo was shíte , a lot of the ministers were shíte politicians , sean gallagher has never been proved to be taking backhanders or corrupt in any way , if this is the reason you wouldnt vote for him then its a bit pathetic really

Biggins

Eric Cartman wrote: »

AH really has to get this chip off their shoulder about FF , they didnt cause it all , and not everyone in FF is bad, biffo was shíte , a lot of the ministers were shíte politicians , sean gallagher has never been proved to be taking backhanders or corrupt in any way , if this is the reason you wouldnt vote for him then its a bit pathetic really

Well personally, seeing as FF have shown themselves to be into one thing - and thats themselves and looking after their fans mostly, I want nothing more to do with them. Be they as open FF or as quiet hidden ones.

If that makes me 'pathetic' so be it - rather that then let them back in any way shape or form, big or small, into political office.
I can live with myself.

CommuterIE

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

So wait a second... what exactly is wrong with slamming those who hypocritically support dictators whilst harping on about "freedom" in other parts of the world?

Fair f*cking dues to him I say. We need a president who will "dare" to call people out on their BS when required, unlike MacAleese when Bush was here who had the opportunity to put him on the spot about Rendition and instead only noted "concern" about it.

Do you want a strong spokesman for this country, or a pushover???

What about those who would denounce freedom in light of their left wing, socialist politics which can only lead, as history has proven time and time again to collapse?

His views aren't worth the steam off my piss tbh, if society gave into his marxist way of thinking, his precious society wouldn't last half a century! He'd also have to open gulags and the like to keep it going even that long