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Rise of the Planet of the Apes [** SPOILERS FROM POST 185 ONWARD **]

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    pixelburp wrote: »
    A pretty pointless inclusion in a franchise nobody really cares about.

    uh, speak for yourself


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    KerranJast wrote: »
    The whole premise of the film seems badly thought out. Unless the apes start breeding like rabbits us barbarous humans with a gun on every second block (in the US anyway) would come out on top.
    Are the armed forces not supposed to notice a load of apes running around major cities? :confused:

    thats why I liked conquest's explanation where humans excessively overbreed apes and put them in our cities to be used as slaves. The end result is naturally a massive army waiting on our doorstop.

    obviously that wouldnt work in our current society so I am curious how they'll do it. If it sticks close to the original series then:
    At the end of conquest the apes dont take over, instead they leave the humans to form their own society, and it has been stated since the first film that humans destroyed themselves, the apes just inherited the earth after the nuclear war. Battle reinforces this by showing ape and human survivors trying to co-habit. I say Rise will go with the same apes leaving to form their own intelligent society somewhere in africa or south america or something and big hint is dropped at the self destructive nature of humans (less nuclear cause its not the go to armeggedon anymore and probably more man made virus)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    indough wrote: »
    uh, speak for yourself
    uh, obviously?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,078 ✭✭✭conorhal


    KerranJast wrote: »
    The whole premise of the film seems badly thought out. Unless the apes start breeding like rabbits us barbarous humans with a gun on every second block (in the US anyway) would come out on top.
    Are the armed forces not supposed to notice a load of apes running around major cities? :confused:


    That's exactly the same plot-fail irritant that's bugging me, that and the fact that those egg-heads scientists have clearly learned nothing from that time they tried to cure cancer by breeding super intelligent sharks, that little mishap went and cost us Samuel L. Jackson damnit! :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 90 ✭✭HerbSimpson


    Looking forward to this, I think it will be an entertaining popcorn movie. I'm surprised about the CGI comments, I think it looks very good.

    What's an example of realistic CGI ? I can't think of any


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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    PunkFreud wrote: »
    Hmmmm... the CGI looks terrible (by today's standards) in that trailer. I know, I shouldn't be looking at CGI and judging a movie on it, but (as has been said) it's very cartoony looking.

    I doubt that they are finished the effects work on it, plenty of films with great CGI features very poor CGI work in the trailers, the early ones for How To Train Your Dragon made them look unrendered only for the finished film to feature some truly amazing CGI.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    pixelburp wrote: »
    uh, obviously?

    uh, pretty much the exact opposite of speaking for yourself when you say nobody cares about it, obviously?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,711 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    indough wrote: »
    uh, pretty much the exact opposite of speaking for yourself when you say nobody cares about it, obviously?
    Not really, should be taken as given I'm only giving my opinion on what the general feedback has been on the film so far; the consensus as I see it being "ok, whatever?" - you're the one taking the huff at the suggestion the "Apes" series isn't exactly crying out for another sequel, or that people are giddy in anticipation at the prospect :) If anything, the average punter's more likely to associate this movie with the awful Tim Burton remake, than the original series in any case.

    To me, the "...Apes" franchise started with a lightning-in-a-bottle film that was topical, exciting, thoughtful & had it all going for it. Instant pop culture status. Since then it's just been the law of diminished returns; this new movie seems like its mining the tired "science and fooking with genes is wrong" trope & just jumping on the nostalgia bandwagon with an arbitrary franchise title


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭Goldstein




    To me that looks like a totally different movie to the impression given by earlier trailers. Looks much more promising now imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,712 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Is that Tom Felton playing another evil kid? He obviously doesn't mind being typecast.


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,600 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Goldstein wrote: »
    YgCzQWoBKvA

    To me that looks like a totally different movie to the impression given by earlier trailers. Looks much more promising now imo.

    If the film focuses on the relationship between Caesar and Franco's family the way that trailer did then I'll happily go see it, some of the stuff in it actually looks brilliant.

    I'm still dubious as to how the hell they'll manage to place enough apes in north america to overthrow humanity though.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭DVD-Lots


    New "sizzle-reel" to be shown at comic con.......



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Are they just trying to show this entire film before it get released?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 205 ✭✭MiniSquish


    I'm actually looking forward to this film despite not being a major fan of the franchise. I think it's more the James Franco's family and the ape storyline that appeals to me- in otherwords the mush ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,276 ✭✭✭Ridley


    krudler wrote: »
    Are they just trying to show this entire film before it get released?

    Wondering the same. Still, the third trailer has made me more interested in actually seeing the film (and watching the original again) despite the distinct feeling of

    images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSOcj4LosAG3BAABFzd4QWRQtP5rve99hh5jswX93DvVzJPbLD_Cg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭Goldstein


    Yip, it's getting a tad ridiculous when you begin to need spoiler tags on every trailer. A concise well considered 30-45 second trailer which whets the appetite should be all that's needed for any film.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭Corkfeen


    James Franco seems to be going a bit mad and is already insulting the film :D
    LOS ANGELES (TheWrap) - Remember that disastrous Academy Awards show back in February?

    Well, it wasn't James Franco's fault that he was a lousy host. In fact, he didn't even want the gig and acted dull on purpose.

    Four months after a brief Twitter-fueled tiff in which he criticized Oscar writer Bruce Vilanch (and then made up with Vilanch the next day), Franco is in the August issue of Playboy magazine with his first in-depth comments about what was widely seen as a debacle of an Oscar show, with Franco's listless performance drawing near-unanimous scorn.

    And there's nary a mea culpa to be found in Franco's comments, which repeatedly circle back to the same theme: I didn't write that stuff, and I did what I could with substandard material.

    Oscar observers could be forgiven for thinking that Franco in fact did what he could to sabotage lackluster material by appearing dazed and confused while co-host Anne Hathaway was unnervingly chipper.

    After the show, one staffer told TheWrap that Franco had been even more lethargic during rehearsals, leading staff members to hope that he was "saving it for the show" -- while others said that the actor's performance was the object of some serious 11th-hour discussions among top show staffers, who knew his detached style presented a huge problem.

    To read Franco's comments in Playboy, though, he was simply a victim of bad writing, and a loyal deckhand who figured there was nothing to do but go down with the ship.

    In fact, he uses that exact metaphor at one point, after saying that he considered himself "trapped" by the material.

    "I felt, this is not my boat," he told Playboy's Stephen Rebello. "I'm just a passenger, but I'm going down and there's no way out."

    Other tidbits from Franco's interview:

    * He didn't want to do the show, but he thought it'd take some of the pressure off Fox Searchlight's push to get him a Best Actor Oscar for "127 Hours," because "at the time I thought no one had won an Oscar the year they hosted the show." (He was mistaken: David Niven had.)

    * He figured he could handle the gig even though he was attending Yale and couldn't show up in L.A. until a few days before the show, because the Oscar host doesn't really have all that much to do. "They knew I could rehearse only on weekends because of school, but how much do you have to rehearse?"

    * After first seeing the material, he told the show's producers, Bruce Cohen and Don Mischer, "I don't know why you hired me, because you haven't given me anything. I just don't think this stuff's going to be good."

    * He acted blase on purpose. "I thought, Okay, Anne is going the enthusiastic route. I've been trained as an actor to respond to circumstances, to people I'm working with, and not to force anything. So I thought I would be the straight man and she could be the other, and that's how I was trying to do those lines."

    * He tweeted during the show as a "cutting-edge" way of reminding people that he didn't write the stuff he was saying.

    * Contrary to rumor, he wasn't high.

    * He didn't want to come onstage in drag, and in fact was so mad about that that he once planned to deliberately trip and fall when he came onstage. "Me in drag is not funny," he said.

    * When it comes to the writing staff, "there were a lot of cooks who shouldn't have been cooking." And Judd Apatow wrote some funny stuff for the show that wasn't used.

    * But afterwards, Cohen told him that Steven Spielberg had called it "the best Oscars ever!"

    That last comment reminded me of Allan Carr, who produced the even-more-disastrous 1989 Oscar show, and afterwards defended his own debacle by announcing that Ronald Reagan had called it "the best television show I've ever seen."

    But the scariest part of the Franco interview isn't the Oscar material -- which, after all, is old news at this point.

    The unsettling thing is that Franco starts hitting many of the same notes when he talks about his upcoming film "Rise of the Planet of the Apes."

    He says he "doesn't feel the same way" about the film that he feels about "Milk" or "127 Hours"...that he doesn't think of "Apes" as showing off his creativity...and that reshoots pushed the film in the direction of more action and less character development.

    "I was just doing my job," he says, and later adds, "I was an actor for hire."

    And then he adds, "critics will be out to kill this movie and blame me for it."

    Hear that, critics? "Rise of the Planet of the Apes," it seems, belongs in the same category as the last Oscar show: if it isn't good, it isn't James Franco's fault.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/21/us-jamesfranco-idUSTRE76K7FW20110721

    I sort of lost a little bit of respect for him as a person after this to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,712 ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I'm tired of all the Franco bashing in the media. He was just the host ffs! Of all the problems with this year's Oscars, he was the least of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    "I was just doing my job," he says, and later adds, "I was an actor for hire."

    FINALLY someone knows what their job is!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I just saw an ad for this and it looked absolutely fúcking ridiculous, and not in a good way.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,072 ✭✭✭Tipsy McSwagger


    Looks really bad. The only thing that could save it is a surprise cameo from Steven Seagal as a bad ass army guy who while sympathizing with the apes still takes them all to the bank.............the blood bank.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,925 ✭✭✭Otis Driftwood


    Echo the sentiments of the above posters.Saw the trailer last night and it looks horrible,like really,really horrible.

    Doesnt matter though,it will likely make a bundle of money because of morons that are impressed by CGI.

    Ohhhh lookit da munkey!
    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,419 ✭✭✭allanb49


    Reviews coming in,

    they're overall....

    Very Positive...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,689 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    the problem with the look of it is, it seems quite conventional compared to the old films.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,600 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    allanb49 wrote: »
    Reviews coming in,

    they're overall....

    Very Positive...

    Yea i was looking at RT there, there's only 6 up yet but 5 are positive and from what they're saying I'm actually starting to look forward to this as I felt the trailer that showed Caesar's relationship with Franco's family showed a lot of promise.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,551 ✭✭✭Goldstein


    There looks to be a thoughtful movie in there somewhere focusing on the early life of Cesar and the increasing intelligence of the apes but I fear it's in danger of being overshadowed and remembered only for CGI Gorillas jumping into helicopters and Magneto, I mean Caesar, leading the mutants, I mean apes, across the Golden Gate bridge in a climactic scene. I really hope they haven't ruined what looks to be a good story with Michael Bay-eske OTT action crap. Fingers crossed.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,862 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I have a hat ready to eat if this turns out to be anything but rubbish, I genuinely don't think I've ever seen a trailer as bad as the one for this. Those early reviews are alarmingly positive though - we'll see what the more trusted voices have to say!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,698 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    Can I choose the hat?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,862 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    Can I choose the hat?

    If it's not top or any others with large surface areas.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Reviews are looking good, at least it seems to be better than Burton's attempt.

    The marketing seems to be just focusing on the action rather than the story for which it's getting points for.


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