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Is David Norris Toast?

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  • #1352
    northkildare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭northkildare


    david came to many of our meetings in the past and he expressed the same views to the newcomers at our meetings and it wasnt a problem so i dont see why it should be now.

    They consented to come to our meetings and were not forced to do anthing they wernt happy doing.


  • #1353
    Side Show Bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Side Show Bob


    jill_valentine wrote: »
    Whoa, hold on there, I think you're either confused or misrepresenting the story hugely.

    No the poster is completely accurate there, we did doge a bulit there, just try to imagine the chances of Obama or the Queen visiting had the current president been the author of the 3 said letters


  • #1354
    Pompey Magnus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Do you not think 16 and 17 year olds can give consent to sexual relations? Is it WRONG for them to have sex?

    Some of the boys were 15 and I do think its wrong for a rich European man to go to an impoverished country, exploit the power difference between himself and local boys or girls by giving them gifts and then to have sex with them. Do you not think this is wrong?


  • #1355
    jill_valentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Side Show Bob wrote: »
    No the poster is completely accurate there, we did doge a bulit there, just try to imagine the chances of Obama or the Queen visiting had the current president been the author of the 3 said letters

    No, I mean there appears to be some definite confusion over the wrongdoing Norris actually did. The poster seems to be conflating him with O Shearcaigh.


  • #1356
    beagle001
    Closed Accounts Posts: 764 ✭✭✭beagle001


    Side Show Bob wrote: »
    jill_valentine wrote: »
    Whoa, hold on there, I think you're either confused or misrepresenting the story hugely.

    No the poster is completely accurate there, we did doge a bulit there, just try to imagine the chances of Obama or the Queen visiting had the current president been the author of the 3 said letters

    We need to build Irelands reputation abroad and on the world stage we are not doing too good at the moment between bailouts,corruption,cloyne and countless other things we need a person as president that leads by exemplary.
    He is just not the man,sure he has done wanders for he homosexual community but that is not enough and the stakes are too high for Ireland.
    No world leader would feel comfortable with him now after all this seedy scandal.


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  • #1357
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,462 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    beagle001 wrote: »
    Homosexual or gay are both the same thing,it's probably more polite to call him homosexual.
    People don't have a problem with this it's his views on teenage sodomy that his partner was convicted off comitting and now his arrogance to the whole affair.
    An old saying in Ireland tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are.

    Is it impossible for some people to call it anal sex? Many straight couples now have anal sex.


  • #1358
    Side Show Bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Side Show Bob


    jill_valentine wrote: »
    No, I mean there appears to be some definite confusion over the wrongdoing Norris actually did. The poster seems to be conflating him with O Shearcaigh.

    No, I think you are the confused one, the poster refers only to the article and the journalist whom exposed Norris and the letters


  • #1359
    murfa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9 ✭murfa


    Side Show Bob wrote: »
    No, I think you are the confused one, the poster refers only to the article and the journalist whom exposed Norris and the letters
    no that poster quoted a post which referred to the activites of O'Searcaigh


  • #1360
    beagle001
    Closed Accounts Posts: 764 ✭✭✭beagle001


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    beagle001 wrote: »
    Homosexual or gay are both the same thing,it's probably more polite to call him homosexual.
    People don't have a problem with this it's his views on teenage sodomy that his partner was convicted off comitting and now his arrogance to the whole affair.
    An old saying in Ireland tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are.

    Is it impossible for some people to call it anal sex? Many straight couples now have anal sex.

    Why get hyped up on a word it means the same thing and I guess I believe it's appropriate here as his partner forced himself on that young boy and there is nothing sexual about that.


  • #1361
    murfa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9 ✭murfa


    northkildare wrote: »
    david came to many of our meetings in the past and he expressed the same views to the newcomers at our meetings and it wasnt a problem so i dont see why it should be now.

    They consented to come to our meetings and were not forced to do anthing they wernt happy doing.

    What meetings are you referring to? What view are you refering to?


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  • #1362
    beagle001
    Closed Accounts Posts: 764 ✭✭✭beagle001


    murfa wrote: »
    Side Show Bob wrote: »
    No, I think you are the confused one, the poster refers only to the article and the journalist whom exposed Norris and the letters
    no that poster quoted a post which referred to the activites of O'Searcaigh
    No I made mention of o sharcaigh,I was referring to Norris partner.


  • #1363
    Pompey Magnus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    Side Show Bob wrote: »
    No, I think you are the confused one, the poster refers only to the article and the journalist whom exposed Norris and the letters

    My post about O Searcaigh had been quoted and it did look as if the implication was that it was Norris who committed it (he only defended it).


  • #1364
    jill_valentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    Right. Let's review.

    Pompey Magnus said this:
    Pompey Magnus wrote: »
    He is an Irish citizen who went abroad having sex with boys under the Irish age of consent, even though the act was committed abroad and was legal in Nepal it is still a crime in Ireland and can be prosecuted here so it does have something to do with us.

    About Cathal O Shearcaigh. Which beagle001 quoted, and furthered that:
    beagle001 wrote: »
    Fair play to that journalist for bringing all this to light,could you imagine the embarrassment if he was elected and it came out after he was in the Aras.
    We dodged a bullet on this guy,we need a clean living person as our president not some predator lusting at every young teenage male that enters Aras an uachtarain.

    O Shearcaigh is not running for president, and Norris, to my knowledge, has not been to Nepal. This is clearly confusing what Cathal O Shearcaigh and David Norris did wrong, respectively.

    Lads, regardless of whether you were ever going to vote for Norris or not, these distinctions matter.


  • #1365
    murfa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9 ✭murfa


    beagle001 wrote: »
    No I made mention of o sharcaigh,I was referring to Norris partner.
    Norris doesn't have partner????


  • #1366
    Side Show Bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Side Show Bob


    murfa wrote: »
    Norris doesn't have partner????

    No he left him for a 15 year old


  • #1367
    northkildare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭northkildare


    david norris is still seen as a legend and i believe this lad set him up, the media twisted the story.

    David came to our meeting a few years ago and explained how it all happened so i dont understand why its only coming up now, nobody at the meeting had a problem then so why now.

    this is the problem, when you try explain it to straight people you get trashed for something that is natural within the gay community.


  • #1368
    beagle001
    Closed Accounts Posts: 764 ✭✭✭beagle001


    jill_valentine wrote: »
    Right. Let's review.

    Pompey Magnus said this:
    Pompey Magnus wrote: »
    He is an Irish citizen who went abroad having sex with boys under the Irish age of consent, even though the act was committed abroad and was legal in Nepal it is still a crime in Ireland and can be prosecuted here so it does have something to do with us.

    About Cathal O Shearcaigh. Which beagle001 quoted, and furthered that:
    beagle001 wrote: »
    Fair play to that journalist for bringing all this to light,could you imagine the embarrassment if he was elected and it came out after he was in the Aras.
    We dodged a bullet on this guy,we need a clean living person as our president not some predator lusting at every young teenage male that enters Aras an uachtarain.

    O Shearcaigh is not running for president, and Norris, to my knowledge, has not been to Nepal. This is clearly confusing what Cathal O Shearcaigh and David Norris did wrong, respectively.

    Lads, regardless of whether you were ever going to vote for Norris or not, these distinctions matter.

    Your totally confused on that dear,
    I made no mention of cathal o searcaigh I was talking about norrises partner,I am not aware Norris has had homosexual relations with o searcaigh and he was defending his partner.
    I have never had a problem with Norris before in fact he is a good scholar but on this subject he is well wrong and has not the character to be the president of this country.


  • #1369
    murfa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9 ✭murfa


    northkildare wrote: »
    david norris is still seen as a legend and i believe this lad set him up, the media twisted the story.

    David came to our meeting a few years ago and explained how it all happened so i dont understand why its only coming up now, nobody at the meeting had a problem then so why now.

    this is the problem, when you try explain it to straight people you get trashed for something that is natural within the gay community.
    Again what meetings?


  • #1370
    jill_valentine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,090 ✭✭✭jill_valentine


    beagle001 wrote: »
    Your totally confused on that dear,
    I made no mention of cathal o searcaigh I was talking about norrises partner,I am not aware Norris has had homosexual relations with o searcaigh and he was defending his partner.
    I have never had a problem with Norris before in fact he is a good scholar but on this subject he is well wrong and has not the character to be the president of this country.

    I think it's pretty clear you've gotten the wrong end of the stick on this.
    northkildare wrote: »
    david norris is still seen as a legend and i believe this lad set him up, the media twisted the story.

    David came to our meeting a few years ago and explained how it all happened so i dont understand why its only coming up now, nobody at the meeting had a problem then so why now.

    this is the problem, when you try explain it to straight people you get trashed for something that is natural within the gay community.

    Would you ever piss off and stop trolling. It's not by any means natural within the gay community, and it's a transparent bit of stirring to suggest it is. Meetings. :rolleyes:


  • #1371
    Side Show Bob
    Closed Accounts Posts: 981 ✭✭✭Side Show Bob


    northkildare wrote: »
    david norris is still seen as a legend and i believe this lad set him up, the media twisted the story.

    David came to our meeting a few years ago and explained how it all happened so i dont understand why its only coming up now, nobody at the meeting had a problem then so why now.

    this is the problem, when you try explain it to straight people you get trashed for something that is natural within the gay community.

    Hi I would like to attend your next meeting, could you state here the time, date and venue of your next meeting, if you have minutes from the last meeting maybe you could post them too, thanks


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  • #1372
    beagle001
    Closed Accounts Posts: 764 ✭✭✭beagle001


    jill_valentine wrote: »
    beagle001 wrote: »
    Your totally confused on that dear,
    I made no mention of cathal o searcaigh I was talking about norrises partner,I am not aware Norris has had homosexual relations with o searcaigh and he was defending his partner.
    I have never had a problem with Norris before in fact he is a good scholar but on this subject he is well wrong and has not the character to be the president of this country.

    I think it's pretty clear you've gotten the wrong end of the stick on this.
    northkildare wrote: »
    david norris is still seen as a legend and i believe this lad set him up, the media twisted the story.

    David came to our meeting a few years ago and explained how it all happened so i dont understand why its only coming up now, nobody at the meeting had a problem then so why now.

    this is the problem, when you try explain it to straight people you get trashed for something that is natural within the gay community.

    Would you ever piss off and stop trolling. It's not by any means natural within the gay community, and it's a transparent bit of stirring to suggest it is. Meetings. :rolleyes:

    Nope fairly sure you are not reading my posts correctly,didn't he defend his ex partner.yes
    I am also interested to hear about these meetings I have heard urban myths that a groups from the gay communities meet in secret to get up to all sorts but I cannot see why they need to meet in groups like this as there are clubs pubs for them and it's surely not like AA.
    Ireland does not care whether a person is a homosexual or not it seems to me it's the other way around.


  • #1373
    murfa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9 ✭murfa


    Harry Angstrom wrote: »
    northkildare is trolling. Don't even acknowledge him.

    He must be if he thinks O'Searcaigh ever did anything near fight for the right for gay adoption. O'Searcaigh is no hero in any community.


  • #1374
    northkildare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭northkildare


    jill_valentine wrote: »
    I think it's pretty clear you've gotten the wrong end of the stick on this.



    Would you ever piss off and stop trolling. It's not by any means natural within the gay community, and it's a transparent bit of stirring to suggest it is. Meetings. :rolleyes:

    just cos i speak of what i see and what others try cover up what goes on within the community is not trollin.

    people are also shock because its only coming to light now what goes on behind the lines. you know it and i know it


  • #1375
    murfa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9 ✭murfa


    beagle001 wrote: »
    Nope fairly sure you are not reading my posts correctly,didn't he defend his ex partner.yes
    I am also interested to hear about these meetings I have heard urban myths that a groups from the gay communities meet in secret to get up to all sorts but I cannot see why they need to meet in groups like this as there are clubs pubs for them and it's surely not like AA.
    Ireland does not care whether a person is a homosexual or not it seems to me it's the other way around.

    Yes gays meet in groups all over the country, it's hardly a secret. If you are in Tipp or Kerry where are you going to meet other gay people, there is no gay bar locally. Therefore you attend LGB meet ups to make friends or for support.

    I am interested in what meetings in particular northkildare is mentioning that would have Norris present at them all the same.


  • #1376
    beagle001
    Closed Accounts Posts: 764 ✭✭✭beagle001


    northkildare wrote: »
    jill_valentine wrote: »
    I think it's pretty clear you've gotten the wrong end of the stick on this.



    Would you ever piss off and stop trolling. It's not by any means natural within the gay community, and it's a transparent bit of stirring to suggest it is. Meetings. :rolleyes:

    just cos i speak of what i see and what others try cover up what goes on within the community is not trollin.

    people are also shock because its only coming to light now what goes on behind the lines. you know it and i know it

    I have to call BS on this man


  • #1377
    beagle001
    Closed Accounts Posts: 764 ✭✭✭beagle001


    murfa wrote: »
    beagle001 wrote: »
    Nope fairly sure you are not reading my posts correctly,didn't he defend his ex partner.yes
    I am also interested to hear about these meetings I have heard urban myths that a groups from the gay communities meet in secret to get up to all sorts but I cannot see why they need to meet in groups like this as there are clubs pubs for them and it's surely not like AA.
    Ireland does not care whether a person is a homosexual or not it seems to me it's the other way around.

    Yes gays meet in groups all over the country, it's hardly a secret. If you are in Tipp or Kerry where are you going to meet other gay people, there is no gay bar locally. Therefore you attend LGB meet ups to make friends or for support.

    I am interested in what meetings in particular northkildare is mentioning that would have Norris present at them all the same.

    That's fairly sad to be honest in all seriousness maybe it's why so many enjoy city life better.
    I always thought it was a wind up.
    I stand corrected on that


  • #1378
    northkildare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭northkildare


    i have been to many meetings in the past and when i bring up the subject of the meetings i get run down on boards.

    we try to let on we express ourselfs yet what happens at the meetings is hush hush.

    OMG i could never understand why that is but i understand now.


  • #1379
    murfa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9 ✭murfa


    beagle001 wrote: »
    That's fairly sad to be honest in all seriousness maybe it's why so many enjoy city life better.
    I always thought it was a wind up.
    I stand corrected on that

    No it's not sad to be honest, it's fine. It usually ends up in some pub or cafe anyway. It's an outlet for meeting people. Yes city life is of course better.


  • #1380
    ResearchWill
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,111 ✭✭✭ResearchWill


    Picture of guy who broke the story, a graduate of Griffith College http://thesystemworks.wordpress.com/2011/02/page/2/

    A pic taken of YFG person in Griffith College Last year http://www.flickr.com/photos/lordmayor/5030647830/in/photostream/

    Im trying to figure out are they same guy.


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  • #1381
    murfa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9 ✭murfa


    northkildare wrote: »
    i have been to many meetings in the past and when i bring up the subject of the meetings i get run down on boards.

    we try to let on we express ourselfs yet what happens at the meetings is hush hush.

    OMG i could never understand why that is but i understand now.

    Look if you are part of any LGB group (and none that I know of are hush hush) that perpetuates the idea that older men having sex with underage kids is the norm your group is a disgrace.


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