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Is David Norris Toast?

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  • #1262
    zuroph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,102 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    zuroph wrote: »
    I meant for personal opinion. in the grander scheme of things, regardless of facts, this is death to the campaign, yes. I'm just keeping an open mind myself as to my opinion of the man, until I have more facts.

    I could launch into conjecture and speculation at this point, but I'm not going to launch into a blind defence. I will weigh it up on facts, others are free to weigh it up how they wish, such is democracy.
    tayto lover wrote: »
    Well do you think my bias is worse than yours then because i don't. You have shown your colours on this from the start and can't seem to take any criticism of D.N. at all. But go on and laugh at others and accuse them of telling lies. Where are the lies i told by the way ?

    one example lie. I'm not going back through all your posts.


  • #1263
    zuroph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,102 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Very unfair comments. I never said "fact" anywhere either. Anything i did say was an honest comment but you want to twist everything to support your side. If i said some moderators were better than others too it might be "fact".

    I never said you said fact anywhere. I said that people down the line are getting second and third hand information from posts like yours and through chinese whispers are getting confused and thinking its fact. we've seen this time and time again when people arrived into the thread.


  • #1264
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,009 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    zuroph wrote: »
    one example lie. I'm not going back through all your posts.

    "can't seem" is a personal opinion. Personal opinions are not lies. So its not an example at all.


  • #1265
    zuroph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,102 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    fine. "lies" withdrawn.


  • #1266
    tayto lover
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,009 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    zuroph wrote: »
    fine. "lies" withdrawn.

    Thank you.


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  • #1267
    northkildare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭northkildare


    I had little fate in mick wallace and now i have none, He still supports David Norris and dosnt seem to care about the young boy.


  • #1268
    anymore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭anymore


    zuroph wrote: »
    If it was consensual, theres no difference. the biology of the act makes no difference. Plenty of straight couples have anal sex regularily.
    I didnt actually think you would as far as to say something like that. Very sad.


  • #1269
    oppenheimer1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,733 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    Back to what we're meant to be talking about. Norris has lost three members of the Oireachtas so far in the past hour, McGrath, Halligan and Pringle. How many more will go before midnight? Crown is tweeting that he will stand by his man.


  • #1270
    murraykil
    Closed Accounts Posts: 460 ✭✭murraykil


    bin-laden-toast.jpg


  • #1271
    zuroph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,102 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    anymore wrote: »
    I didnt actually think you would as far as to say something like that. Very sad.

    how so?


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  • #1272
    beagle001
    Closed Accounts Posts: 764 ✭✭✭beagle001


    oppenheimer1 wrote: »
    Back to what we're meant to be talking about. Norris has lost three members of the Oireachtas so far in the past hour, McGrath, Halligan and Pringle. How many more will go before midnight? Crown is tweeting that he will stand by his man.

    He is gone big time and I for one am glad,maybe mr.norris will think next time before he associates with people who exploit children.


  • #1273
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,460 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    northkildare wrote: »
    I had little fate in mick wallace and now i have none, He still supports David Norris and dosnt seem to care about the young boy.

    This is another problem I have with this issue. People claiming to care about child abuse all of a sudden, when I get the impression many of them couldn't give a toss about it and just personally dislike Norris and his campness.


  • #1274
    zuroph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,102 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    This is another problem I have with this issue. People claiming to care about child abuse all of a sudden, when I get the impression many of them couldn't give a toss about it and just personally dislike Norris and his campness.

    that account was over the top support of norris yesterday, insinuating the older gay males help "guide" the young guys. I suspect a troll.


  • #1275
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    I think at this point he needs to consider his position as a senator, let alone as a presidential candidate.


  • #1276
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    This is another problem I have with this issue. People claiming to care about child abuse all of a sudden, when I get the impression many of them couldn't give a toss about it and just personally dislike Norris and his campness.

    Oh yeh? Well Norris has just found out that the Irish are no longer ambivalent to 'perpetrators of' and 'apologists for' child abuse. Let his imminent resignation from the campaign be a lesson. Sling yer hook and good riddance.


  • #1277
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,460 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    zuroph wrote: »
    that account was over the top support of norris yesterday, insinuating the older gay males help "guide" the young guys. I suspect a troll.

    Which account?


  • #1278
    zuroph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,102 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    northkildare.


  • #1279
    HarryPotter41
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭HarryPotter41


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    This is another problem I have with this issue. People claiming to care about child abuse all of a sudden, when I get the impression many of them couldn't give a toss about it and just personally dislike Norris and his campness.


    Well you would be wrong, my opinions are not based in the least on your very narrow assumptions. I am sure I am not the only one either.


  • #1280
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,460 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Oh yeh? Well Norris has just found out that the Irish are no longer ambivalent to 'perpetrators of' and 'apologists for' child abuse. Let his imminent resignation from the campaign be a lesson. Sling yer hook and good riddance.


    What sort of tone is that? Did you dislike Norris before this came out?


  • #1281
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,460 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Oh yeh? Well Norris has just found out that the Irish are no longer ambivalent to 'perpetrators of' and 'apologists for' child abuse. Let his imminent resignation from the campaign be a lesson. Sling yer hook and good riddance.
    HarryPotter41 wrote: »
    Well you would be wrong, my opinions are not based in the least on your very narrow assumptions. I am sure I am not the only one either.

    Some people couldn't give a toss about child sexual abuse, perhaps not all of course. But I do sense them using this as an excuse to complain about Norris, when really his gayness irritates them.


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  • #1282
    zuroph
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,102 ✭✭✭✭zuroph


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Some people couldn't give a toss about child sexual abuse, perhaps not all of course. But I do sense them using this as an excuse to complain about Norris, when really his gayness irritates them.

    Its a bit more effective than giving out about his accent :p


  • #1283
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,460 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    zuroph wrote: »
    Its a bit more effective than giving out about his accent :p

    And he's a Protestant too, a LOT people get bothered about that.


  • #1284
    northkildare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭northkildare


    David Norris withdraws from presenting spot on TV3′s Vincent Browne show

    DAVID NORRIS HAS withdrawn from a guest spot on TV3′s Tonight with Vincent Brown show.

    Norris was due to present the show tomorrow night. A TV3 spokesperson has confirmed to TheJournal.ie that he has withdrawn.

    The spokesperson said:

    While we are disappointed we are not surprised due to the controversy surrounding the campaign.
    The spokesperson also said that a member of the senator’s presidential campaign informed TV3 today that due to the circumstances they did not feel it would be appropriate for him to go ahead with the guest presenting slot.

    Several of David Norris’ campaign staff resigned over the weekend after it emerged that he wrote a letter, using Senate headed paper, seeking clemency for his friend and former partner Ezra Yizhak Nawi who was convicted of the statutory rape of a 15-year-old boy in the Israeli courts in 1997.

    Independent TD Mick Wallace confirmed earlier that he is still supporting Norris’ campaign, reports RTÉ. Five of the 15 Oireachtas members who pledged their support have confirmed that they are still on board. Others are considering the matter while some remain uncontactable.


  • #1285
    anymore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,672 ✭✭✭anymore


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    This is another problem I have with this issue. People claiming to care about child abuse all of a sudden, when I get the impression many of them couldn't give a toss about it and just personally dislike Norris and his campness.
    The issue of child sex abuse has been part of the Irish agenda for at least ten years, did you not know that ? Just heard about it lately ?


  • #1286
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Some people couldn't give a toss about child sexual abuse,

    The ones that matter do! As DN has realised.

    The desperation to see this man elected is amazing. He is egotistical, opinionated, out of touch with the ordinary person and desperate for the office of president.
    I stopped supporting him, when early in his campaign he said, 'that he would not have a partner if he was elected', a deliberate and cynical attempt to appeal to conservative Ireland and turning his back on all that has been achieved for Gay rights. Self aggrandising, I think is the word.
    He has no qualities that the Presidency requires.


  • #1287
    HarryPotter41
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭HarryPotter41


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Some people couldn't give a toss about child sexual abuse, perhaps not all of course. But I do sense them using this as an excuse to complain about Norris, when really his gayness irritates them.


    Be careful when you leap to those conclusions, you often find there is nowhere to land after the leap


  • #1288
    HarryPotter41
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭HarryPotter41


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    And he's a Protestant too, a LOT people get bothered about that.


    Get a grip ffs


  • #1289
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,460 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    The ones that matter do! As DN has realised.

    The desperation to see this man elected is amazing. He is egotistical, opinionated, out of touch with the ordinary person and desperate for the office of president.
    I stopped supporting him, when early in his campaign he said, 'that he would not have a partner if he was elected', a deliberate and cynical attempt to appeal to conservative Ireland and turning his back on all that has been achieved for Gay rights. Self aggrandising, I think is the word.
    He has no qualities that the Presidency requires.

    I actually agree with you on that regarding playing for the conservative vote, turning back on some of his beliefs lately or downplaying them. He's made sure to be vocal about his love of the GAA as well. Aw well, all politicians engage in this type of crap.


  • #1290
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,460 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    HarryPotter41 wrote: »
    Be careful when you leap to those conclusions, you often find there is nowhere to land after the leap

    It's called an opinion.

    You can safely say his gayness didn't bother some people?


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  • #1291
    northkildare
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46 ✭northkildare


    to dislike gay is a lifestlye choice just as it is to be gay


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