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Famous "Britons"?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,808 ✭✭✭✭smash


    They always claim U2.

    And ffs, topgear claimed the MX-5 was a British sports car!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 647 ✭✭✭DingChavez


    British Isles innit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Perhaps the big loan wasn't a loan at all, and was a payment for the counties listed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,110 ✭✭✭Aodan83


    DingChavez wrote: »
    British Isles innit.
    Was thinking that too. This site definitely means UK British, not British Isles British.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Technically the ones born before 1921? (whenever state was founded) were British citizens. 1948? we leave the commonwealth so that is dubious. Anybody born after then is no more a "Briton" than Julius Caesar was a Mayo man. If "Briton" = born in British Isles, they're spot on. However that logic would make Cliff Richard an Indian.

    edit: and I personally don't give a toss.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,332 ✭✭✭Guill


    Briton is an centuries old German word used to describe people from the Islands now known as Uk and Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    The nmajority of those come from Dublin, so those would count as (West) British anyway....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    The ongoing determination to excavate increasingly arcane micro-instances of Brit offense needs a formal name. Something witty, like a nationalistic pun on data mining perhaps.

    We could even nominate a new forum for it so normal people wouldn't have to see it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,152 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Well considering that M&S's website doesn't list Irish stores under "international stores", I'm not surprised.

    http://corporate.marksandspencer.com/aboutus/where/international_stores

    Basically the UK schools mustn't do geography particularly well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    smash wrote: »
    They always claim U2.

    And ffs, topgear claimed the MX-5 was a British sports car!

    U2 is 50% British so they can make a fair claim (if they really want to!)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,018 ✭✭✭Badgermonkey


    I was preparing myself to be incensed at this ignorant slight, then I saw the website.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,968 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    The charms of web 1.0 are lost on some ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    hen I saw the website.

    Needs more marquee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭jum4


    who gives a crap, site looks like it was made on geocities cira 1996,


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 16,057 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    Guill wrote: »
    Briton is an centuries old German word used to describe people from the Islands now known as Uk and Ireland.

    Eh, no it's not. Britanni or Brittanni has a Latin origin


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 36,496 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    stovelid wrote: »
    The ongoing determination to excavate increasingly arcane micro-instances of Brit offense needs a formal name. Something witty, like a nationalistic pun on data mining perhaps.

    We could even nominate a new forum for it so normal people wouldn't have to see it.

    Octocensitivity


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    stovelid wrote: »
    The ongoing determination to excavate increasingly arcane micro-instances of Brit offense needs a formal name. Something witty, like a nationalistic pun on data mining perhaps.

    We could even nominate a new forum for it so normal people wouldn't have to see it.

    I've never seen a persecution thread as good as this one though, thanks for dropping in.:P





    :pac:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Batsy


    ejmaztec wrote: »
    Am I missing something here, am I having a "thick" day?:confused:

    http://www.information-britain.co.uk/famousbritons.php?county=121

    In amongst links to the counties and other links you'd expect to see on the site, there seem to be some counties that you don't expect to see. Some of the people are historical figures, like the Duke of Wellington (a grey area), and then you have alive and kicking Daniel O'Donnell, who no way is a Briton.

    The Duke of Wellington was British. Apart from the fact that he lived when the whole of Ireland was part of Britain - which made him British - he didn't even consider himself to be Irish.

    When told he is Irish he often used to reply: "Just because one is born in a stable does not make one a horse."


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,341 ✭✭✭Batsy


    smash wrote: »
    They always claim U2.

    And ffs, topgear claimed the MX-5 was a British sports car!

    The MX-5 is based on the classic British sports car and the first prototype was made in Worthing, West Sussex.
    I quote:

    In 1976, Bob Hall, a (American) journalist at Motor Trend magazine who was an expert in Japanese cars and fluent in the language, met Kenichi Yamamoto and Gai Arai, head of Research and Development at Mazda. Yamamoto and Gai Arai asked Hall what kind of car Mazda should make in the future:

    "I babbled [...] how the [...] simple, bugs-in-the-teeth, wind-in-the-hair, classically-British sports car doesn't exist anymore. I told Mr. Yamamoto that somebody should build one [...] inexpensive roadster."


    In 1981, Hall moved to a product planning position with Mazda US and again met Yamamoto, now chairman of Mazda Motors, who remembered their conversation about a roadster and in 1982 gave Hall the go-ahead to research the idea further. At this time Hall hired designer Mark Jordan to join the newly formed Mazda design studio in Southern California. There, Hall and Jordan collaborated on the parameters of the initial image, proportion and visualization of the "light-weight sports" concept. In 1983, the idea turned concept was approved under the "Offline 55" program, an internal Mazda initiative that sought to change the way new models were developed. Thus, under head of project Masakatsu, the concept development was turned into a competition between the Mazda design teams in Tokyo and California.

    The Californian team proposed a front-engine, rear-wheel drive layout, codenamed Duo 101, in line with the British roadster ancestry, but their Japanese counterparts favored the more common front-engine, front-wheel drive layout or the rear mid-engine, rear-wheel drive layout.

    The first round of judging the competing designs was held in April 1984. At this stage, designs were presented solely on paper. The mid-engined car appeared the most impressive, although it was known at the time that such a layout would struggle to meet the noise, vibration and harshness (NVH) requirements of the project. It was only at the second round of the competition in August 1984, when full-scale clay models were presented, that the Duo 101 won the competition and was selected as the basis for Mazda's new light-weight sports car.

    The Duo 101, so named as either a soft top or hard top could be used, incorporated many key stylistic cues inspired by the Lotus Elan, a 1960s roadster. International Automotive Design (IAD) in Worthing, England was commissioned to develop a running prototype, codenamed V705. It was built with a fiberglass body, a 1.4 L (85 cu in) engine from a Mazda Familia and components from a variety of early Mazda models. The V705 was completed in August 1985 and taken to the U.S.A. where it rolled on the roads around Santa Barbara and got positive reactions.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mx5


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    They probably do it to wind up a certain type of Irish person – it seems to work as well.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,566 ✭✭✭✭Fratton Fred


    Batsy wrote: »
    The Duke of Wellington was British. Apart from the fact that he lived when the whole of Ireland was part of Britain - which made him British - he didn't even consider himself to be Irish.

    When told he is Irish he often used to reply: "Just because one is born in a stable does not make one a horse."

    That's actually a modern myth. Wellesley was referred to as being Irish and Daniel O'Connell said that about him.

    There was a thread on this subject on the history forum a while back and the OP posted up pretty good supporting material.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,152 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    They probably do it to wind up a certain type of Irish person – it seems to work as well.

    What "certain type of Irish person" ?

    One that likes websites and surveys to be - well - factually accurate ?

    Try setting up a website listing the regions of Canada as being from the USA and see how you get on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Batsy wrote: »
    The Duke of Wellington was British. Apart from the fact that he lived when the whole of Ireland was part of Britain - which made him British - he didn't even consider himself to be Irish.

    When told he is Irish he often used to reply: "Just because one is born in a stable does not make one a horse."

    That's what Daniel O'Connell once said about Wellington.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    Liam Byrne wrote: »

    Try setting up a website listing the regions of Canada as being from the USA and see how you get on.


    Now why would I want to do a crazy thing like that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 797 ✭✭✭parc


    They have barry mcguigan as a "briton"

    :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,152 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    Now why would I want to do a crazy thing like that?

    Any chance you'd answer my question first ? What "certain type of Irish person" did you conclusion-jump to when you posted ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,369 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    Any chance you'd answer my question first ? What "certain type of Irish person" did you conclusion-jump to when you posted ?

    Probably one like me who wasn't even born here.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 30,774 ✭✭✭✭Quazzie


    parc wrote: »
    They have barry mcguigan as a "briton"

    :confused:

    He represented Northern Ireland in the commonwealth games which I suppose means he's a briton


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    Any chance you'd answer my question first ? What "certain type of Irish person" did you conclusion-jump to when you posted ?

    Would have thought that was quite obvious.
    The type that get’s really annoyed whenever some British person or institution describes an Irish person as being British. I stopped letting this annoy me years ago.
    Ironically it often the same people who passionately support an English football team and frequently refer to them as ‘we’.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 18,183 ✭✭✭✭Lapin


    What about Ballybrit ?



    ..................................:pac:


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