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When did the Stab City phrase first get coined?

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  • #32
    Itsdacraic
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    veryangryman wrote: »
    The phrase? Or the city?

    Better question for our more (ahem) mature boardsies.. How long back can you remember the first knifing in Limerick?

    1690 when Patrick Sarsfield stabbed the king of the baddies in the brain with a sword made out of hash.


  • #33
    cruiser178
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    Itsdacraic wrote: »
    No they didn't.

    Gerry Stenbridge was on the radio just last Friday evening where he said that Stab City existed long before he used it in the sketch.

    Afaik the whole "stab city" b/s nick name that limerick got was because of a few stabings in the late 70's earily 80's. The most famous one (for the want of a better word) was in the earily 80's when two feuding familys were drinking in the same pub in the city. Michael kelly (who later went on to be alderman mike kelly would you fcuking believe) was attacked by 2 of the McCarthy brothers who had knives. The story goes, he managed to get the knives from the brothers and then stabed both of them to death.

    I cant find a link to the story, if someone can find one throw it up. As for the whole stembridge and morgan thing thats a first i've heard.


  • #34
    jimthemental
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    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    Gerry Stembridge & Dermot Morgan coined the phrase for a sketch not realising that idiots around the country would exaggerate it out of all proportions and use it as a cheap, ill-informed slur.

    I know, completely inaccurate. They all switched to gun crime when they found they couldn't buy any more ammo for their knives.


  • #35
    cruiser178
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    Found one

    http://www.tribune.ie/archive/article/2004/may/16/the-rise-and-fall-of-a-limerick-hard-man/


  • #36
    Blobby George
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    Liam Byrne wrote: »
    Gerry Stembridge & Dermot Morgan coined the phrase for a sketch not realising that idiots around the country would exaggerate it out of all proportions and use it as a cheap, ill-informed slur.

    I think you'll find that it is in fact very well informed. Limerick has a serious problem with stabbing incidents, maybe not as bad as when the phrase was coined, but still prevalent.


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  • #37
    Ponster
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    Nicknames of places: origins and meanings of the alternate and secondary names, sobriquets, titles, epithets and slogans for 4600 places worldwide
    But any negativity stemming from [Frank Mc- Court's novel] Angela's Ashes is benign compared to the "Stab City" nickname, which appears to stem from Christmas 1982, when there were three unconnected murders in Limerick


  • #38
    Sonnenblumen
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    veryangryman wrote: »
    Someone told me recently that this started on Scrap Saturday...Is this true?

    I first heard it around '99 but I was a late bloomer (17 at the time)

    I know "why" its called it, but whats the earliest recollection of it that you can find.

    Something i found funny - if you type stab city into google, it just finds Limerick, despite the fact that there is no mention of the phrase within the article...

    Back in the Middle Ages, there were major festivals one of which was organised on behalf of the Guild of Silversmiths. As the name suggests, cutlery in those days was made with various precious metals, eg Sterling silver, gold coated etc. However after somebody developed a cheaper and alternative design, ie stainless steel, such producers were excluded from participating/promoting their wares in traditional old Guild events. Forced to find another means, the new producers staged their own events in Limerick, which was subsequently referred to as Stab city, so as to avoid any confusion with the more traditional and solubrious wares offered by Old Guild members.


  • #39
    Dangerous Man
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    Zebra3 wrote: »
    I think Rimlick is funnier than calling it Stabbers. :pac:


    STABBERS! FANTASTIC! Oh, that's so what I'm calling Limerick from now on!


  • #40
    Doyler92
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    easyeason3 wrote: »
    Who ever came up with 'coined the phrase'?
    Does it mean the first person to come up with it gets paid? In coins?


    Who coined the phrase "coined the phrase"?


  • #41
    gbee
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    I'd say to goes back to the late sixties or early seventies and was the sole property of a Limerick Lady.

    Over the years the title moved around and was even won by Cork for a while until we deported them back to Limerick. Dublin has had a few cracks at the title but Limerick keeps winning it back.


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  • #42
    mikemac
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    Didn't some Limerick Major try to change it to "Fab City"
    And then there was an incident and the Limerick Leader reported "Man fabbed"

    That could be an urban myth, Pat Kenny told that joke once


  • #43
    landsleaving
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    Mr. Denton wrote: »
    In a way I'm glad Limerick moved on from knives to guns. Otherwise this guy might still be alive.

    I come back to that story occasionally as it always gives me a good laugh.
    Gardaí believe Mr Collopy was showing a friend how to kill someone when he put the gun to his own head without realising there was a round in the breech

    He was stupid to shoot himself, but dear god, how stupid was the guy he was demonstrating his murder technique to... 'Yeah that's it, you just put it to the guys head and pull the trigger... No, no, like this!'

    Faith in humanity 0 - 500040233049 Stupidity


  • #44
    landsleaving
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    mikemac wrote: »
    Didn't some Limerick Major try to change it to "Fab City"
    And then there was an incident and the Limerick Leader reported "Man fabbed"

    That could be an urban myth, Pat Kenny told that joke once

    Pat Kenny rocks.


  • #45
    Grizzly 45
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    Christmas 1982..
    The Mc Carthy murders in the now gone Treaty bar,by the Kelly bros.
    A Lybian student also got stabbed in the now gone Lucky lamp bar in Ellen street with a screwdriver on Xmas eve..Now pretty much forgotton,and a bunch of hooligans going up O Connell st and William st with a golf club and putting in every shop window on Xmas day night.
    Somone got either batterd or poked but not fatally in that as well.

    The whole thing was reported in the usual" Scumday World" newspaper factual and fair manner and a journalist Kevin Marrion[decesead] coined the phrase "Stab City" for the headline.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • #46
    veryangryman
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    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    Christmas 1982..
    The Mc Carthy murders in the now gone Treaty bar,by the Kelly bros.
    A Lybian student also got stabbed in the now gone Lucky lamp bar in Ellen street with a screwdriver on Xmas eve..Now pretty much forgotton,and a bunch of hooligans going up O Connell st and William st with a golf club and putting in every shop window on Xmas day night.
    Somone got either batterd or poked but not fatally in that as well.

    The whole thing was reported in the usual" Scumday World" newspaper factual and fair manner and a journalist Kevin Marrion[decesead] coined the phrase "Stab City" for the headline.

    Fair play to the Sunday World. A quality newspaper if ever there was one*

    The stab thing would be funny if it werent so tragically true

    * to wipe ones backside with


  • #47
    Downlinz
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    Seloth wrote: »
    Live in Cork but go to College in Limerick and I'd be far more afraid of Knives in Cork and Dublin then I would Limerick.

    Agree, always felt very safe in Limerick. Always felt very un-safe in Dublin. What people don't seem to appreciate is violence in Limerick is gang-motivated, its gangs targeting other gangs. In Dublin violence tends to be direct far moreso at random people so the average joe is in far greater danger.


  • #48
    --Kaiser--
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    The official motto for Limerick is:
    Urbs Antiqua Fuit Studiisque Asperrima Belli
    Meaning "an ancient city very fierce in the skills of war"

    Apt!


  • #49
    SarahBeep!
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    Seloth wrote: »
    Live in Cork but go to College in Limerick and I'd be far more afraid of Knives in Cork and Dublin then I would Limerick.

    The only time students get beaten up in Limerick is when they act the c*nt and p*ss odd other students!! Sure students wouldn't be near ANY of the dangerous ares in Limerick.


  • #50
    megafan
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    Dunno when the term "Stab city first used but Limerick in the early 70's was well known as "Stab city" or "Skanger town" and a town to be avoided or passed through as quick as possible!! 8-(


  • #51
    kilburn
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    Ah yeah make fun and mock fierce Limerick, they were glad LImerick was fierce when Cromwell and his buddies came a calling. And ye will be glad of us again next time we get colonised :p


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  • #52
    gbee
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    kilburn wrote: »
    Ah yeah make fun and mock fierce Limerick, they were glad LImerick was fierce when Cromwell and his buddies came a calling. And ye will be glad of us again next time we get colonised :p

    I'm just glad that beedin cronnie has stopped singing the " .... you're a lady" song. I'm glad of that already. :)


  • #53
    jimthemental
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    SarahBeep! wrote: »
    The only time students get beaten up in Limerick is when they act the c*nt and p*ss odd other students!! Sure students wouldn't be near ANY of the dangerous ares in Limerick.

    LIT is spitting distance from Moyross!


  • #54
    veryangryman
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    jimthemental wrote: »
    LIT is spitting distance from Moyross!

    Only as the crow flies (spits)

    4 years there and never had a problem around Moylish,Caherdavin nor Thomondgate.

    It really is just the families feuding. Can anyone here honestly say theyve had trouble in stab?


  • #55
    lil'bug
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    i used to work near moyross and I never got stabbed, now that i think of it ive always lived in limerick and i've never been stabbed


  • #56
    YFlyer
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    mikemac wrote: »
    Didn't some Limerick Major try to change it to "Fab City"
    And then there was an incident and the Limerick Leader reported "Man fabbed"

    That could be an urban myth, Pat Kenny told that joke once

    Pat Kenny jokes. Get out of here :D


  • #57
    grenache
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    SarahBeep! wrote:

    The only time students get beaten up in Limerick is when they act the c*nt and p*ss odd other students!! Sure students wouldn't be near ANY of the dangerous ares in Limerick.
    :confused: You do realise that LIT is in Moylish, which borders Moyross?! Two friends of mine have both been attacked and had wallets and phones stolen while walking down Old Cratloe Road to the student villages, both of which over-look Moyross. I wouldn't walk down that road at night if you paid me, there are so many knackers hanging around it and causing hassle.


  • #58
    Straight Talker
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    Limerick is not as bad as people would have you believe but i do think Cork and Dublin have a better vibe.Limerick's main problem is that it just has this very grimey feeling.There's also seem's be a lot of graffiti with the slogan bullitz limerick life!

    Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions



  • #59
    grenache
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    Straight Talker wrote: »
    Limerick is not as bad as people would have you believe but i do think Cork and Dublin have a better vibe.
    Having worked and lived there i think it is as bad and worse than people think. It's just dead and I've never come across so many undesirables in my life. I feel sorry for the decent majority who have to put up with all the crap that goes on.


  • #60
    CHealy
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    Its a pretty depressing and boring place, but id feel safer going out there than in Cork, only last Saturday night a pal got a knife showed to him on Grand Parade and told to quickly f**k off.


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  • #61
    super_furry
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    As a Dublin native who has experienced the outrage and anger of our country breatheren from time to time on After Hours, can I just be the first to say.....LIMERICK FORUM?

    Ahhh that felt good. No wonder you lot are always at it.


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