Oslo bombed

MagicMarker · 23-07-2011 09:10AM

I wake up to see over 80 people killed on that Island, it looks like the bomb was planted just for a distraction, to confuse. BBC are saying it took police about an hour and a half to get to the island, absolutely crazy.

temply · 23-07-2011 09:10AM

Those poor kids.

ironingbored · 23-07-2011 09:12AM

This is a very plausible take on the motives:

http://tinyurl.com/4y879vt

A lot of people criticizing the news organisations for speculating on the perpetrators. As well as taking the focus from the victims, this is completely normal as Islamic terrorism is to the fore in these times. In the 70s/80s, any bomb or gun attack in the UK, and the speculation was IRA/Irish involvement.

Was it right? No. Was it to be expected? Yes

In the scheme of things, is it that important? No.

Thoughts go out to the families of the victims.

SharpshooterTom · 23-07-2011 09:15AM

From Sky News ticker:

"Suspect Breivik expresses sympathies for Winston Churchill and Norwegian anti-Nazi World War II hero Max Manus on his alleged Facebook profile."

Gets more confusing doesn't it?

MagicSean · 23-07-2011 09:20AM

Crazy stuff. Seems to be no reason for it.

Blueboyd · 23-07-2011 09:20AM

@Gnobe

Palin said only the shooter was resposible but I disagree. We all have something to do with it as there are not just rights towards the society but we all have also resposibilities even there not might be a seperate Bill of Resposibilities like there is a Bill of Rights.

If you know anything about Nordic countries there has traditionaly been quite strong approval of responsibilities by the people towards the society from left to right.

temply · 23-07-2011 09:28AM

Shocking photograph on the Independent website:

http://www.independent.ie/

Heartbreaking.

homerjay2005 · 23-07-2011 09:30AM

just gets worse and worse....i expected a big death toll, but 90+ is huge. this is horrific, nothing else to describe it now...

Blueboyd · 23-07-2011 09:41AM

This was on VG during the night - Google translation:

Anders Behring Breivik (32) who has been arrested for the bomb in the city center, and mass killing of victims, has lived in Oslo's West End in his life, before he announced relocation of Hedmark for a month.

VG has received confirmation from several independent sources that it was Anders Behring Breivik, who was arrested by armed police after the mass killings of Utøya Friday.

VG was also present when the emergency squad took action against the flat 32-year-old susceptible west of Oslo. Several foreign media have also named Breivik as the perpetrator.

Unknown to the police

Arrested: Anders Behring Breivik (32). Photo: PRIVATE
From what VG has reported Breivik is unknown to the police before. He should have been convicted of minor traffic matters for over 10 years ago. He has no background in the military, apart from regular military service.

A childhood friend of Breivik says to VG Nett that he should have been right-wing in the late 20's, and posted a series of controversial opinions on Facebook. His profile was deaktiviert after a while. He later created a new profile where it mainly is posted links to music videos.

Shortly before midnight police went into action against the apartment as a 32-year-old susceptible west of Oslo.

- I put the TV at home and read newspapers. Suddenly the police came to the door and we were asked to leave the apartment immediately. I have not met in person, but saw him when he visits his mother, said a neighbor who lives on the same floor.

Critical of Islam

In online debates he makes his mark as a well-read, and one with strong opinions about Norwegian politics. He promotes a very conservative opinions, which he also called nationalist. He expresses himself strongly opposed to multiculturalism - that cultural differences can live together in a community.

He has had many posts on the site Document.no, an Islam-critical site that publishes news and commentary.

In one of the posts he states that politics today no longer revolves around socialism against capitalism, but that the fight is between nationalism and internationalism. He expressed clear support for the nationalist mindset.

He also commented on the Swedish news articles, where he makes it clear that he believes the media have failed by not being "NOK" Islam-critical.

Created Twitter account

Six days ago he released his first and only message on the social networking site Twitter, where he laid out a famous quote by British philosopher John Stuart Mill sosialliberalisten.

On Facebook, report the man to be president of his own company. He claims he has an education in finance and religion, but does not disclose what universities he should have studied at. The only school he gives are Oslo Handel.

Ran his own company

In spring 2009, created 32-year-old a separate company that would engage in the cultivation of vegetables, root crops and bright. The company in this industry you can get access to large amounts of fertilizer.

In the end of June / July, he moved well out of the apartment in Oslo west and rural Rena in Hedmark.

Among other interests he expresses his admiration for Winston Churcill, classical music and Max Manus.

The 32-year-old man has been active in video games and has been involved in the online game World of Warcraft. In connection with this game, he posted a picture of a pistolløp.

AudreyHepburn · 23-07-2011 09:48AM

Truely horrific. RIP to all who died and my sympathies to all those injured and the families of all involved.

Is it asking too much to leave the conspiracy theory style speculating and anti islamic stuff out of it? This is not the time.

Crazy Horse 6 · 23-07-2011 09:49AM

AudreyHepburn wrote: »

Truely horrific. RIP to all who died and my sympathies to all those injured and the families of all involved.

Is it asking too much to leave the conspiracy theory style speculating and anti islamic stuff out of it? This is not the time.

Open forum i thought?

280special · 23-07-2011 09:49AM

Gnobe wrote: »

From Sky News ticker:

"Suspect Breivik expresses sympathies for Winston Churchill and Norwegian anti-Nazi World War II hero Max Manus on his alleged Facebook profile."

Gets more confusing doesn't it?

Its either a dis-information ploy that seems particularily popular amongst some of these head cases or on the other hand they can on occasion actually beleive that in reality these men would have supported "their " view of the world, their particular system of beleifs.

This is one man but there are plenty more like him I am afraid and this lunitic will now be a hero to those who beleive his kind of warped neo-nazi BS.

I am truely sickened by what has happened and by what I am seeing on TV this morning. My thoughts are with those who have died,their families and friends, and the decent people of Norway who i am sure are in shock after all of this.

Tabnabs · 23-07-2011 09:50AM

Max Manus is one of many Norwegian's who fought as part of the reistance during WW2. Max Manus had a high profile and there was movie made about him recently.

What the American's would call - a real Norwegian hero.

Sgt. Sensible · 23-07-2011 09:50AM

Gnobe wrote: »

From Sky News ticker:

"Suspect Breivik expresses sympathies for Winston Churchill and Norwegian anti-Nazi World War II hero Max Manus on his alleged Facebook profile."

Gets more confusing doesn't it?

It's normal muddleheaded politically illiterate frustrated loon stuff. If he's anything like some of the right wing Scandy types I've come across and unfortunately it appears more and more likely that he is, then he's probably of the opinion that the nazis were left wing.

The hospitals are full with the injured, we can only hope as many as possible are saved.

AudreyHepburn · 23-07-2011 09:50AM

Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »

Open forum i thought?

There has to be limits sometimes. Innocent children have died, a little tact is called for.

Sunnyisland · 23-07-2011 09:50AM

RIP to all those that have died.

Run_to_da_hills · 23-07-2011 09:50AM

MagicMarker wrote: »

I wake up to see over 80 people killed on that Island, it looks like the bomb was planted just for a distraction, to confuse. BBC are saying it took police about an hour and a half to get to the island, absolutely crazy.

15 minutes it would have taken in a Helicopter.

Listening to the initial reports coming in when there was talk of road transport taking over an hour. WTF. Some questions will be raised.

Pompey Magnus · 23-07-2011 09:51AM

Blueboyd wrote: »

This was on VG during the night - Google translation:

Anders Behring Breivik (32) who has been arrested for the bomb in the city center, and mass killing of vermin, has lived in Oslo's West End in his life, before he announced relocation of Hedmark for a month.

NapoleonInRags · 23-07-2011 09:51AM

Blueboyd wrote: »

This was on VG during the night - Google translation:

Anders Behring Breivik (32) who has been arrested for the bomb in the city center, and mass killing of vermin, has lived in Oslo's West End in his life, before he announced relocation of Hedmark for a month.

VG has received confirmation from several independent sources that it was Anders Behring Breivik, who was arrested by armed police after the mass killings of Utøya Friday.

VG was also present when the emergency squad took action against the flat 32-year-old susceptible west of Oslo. Several foreign media have also named Breivik as the perpetrator.

Unknown to the police

Arrested: Anders Behring Breivik (32). Photo: PRIVATE
From what VG has reported Breivik is unknown to the police before. He should have been convicted of minor traffic matters for over 10 years ago. He has no background in the military, apart from regular military service.

A childhood friend of Breivik says to VG Nett that he should have been right-wing in the late 20's, and posted a series of controversial opinions on Facebook. His profile was deaktiviert after a while. He later created a new profile where it mainly is posted links to music videos.

Shortly before midnight police went into action against the apartment as a 32-year-old susceptible west of Oslo.

- I put the TV at home and read newspapers. Suddenly the police came to the door and we were asked to leave the apartment immediately. I have not met in person, but saw him when he visits his mother, said a neighbor who lives on the same floor.

Critical of Islam

In online debates he makes his mark as a well-read, and one with strong opinions about Norwegian politics. He promotes a very conservative opinions, which he also called nationalist. He expresses himself strongly opposed to multiculturalism - that cultural differences can live together in a community.

He has had many posts on the site Document.no, an Islam-critical site that publishes news and commentary.

In one of the posts he states that politics today no longer revolves around socialism against capitalism, but that the fight is between nationalism and internationalism. He expressed clear support for the nationalist mindset.

He also commented on the Swedish news articles, where he makes it clear that he believes the media have failed by not being "NOK" Islam-critical.

Created Twitter account

Six days ago he released his first and only message on the social networking site Twitter, where he laid out a famous quote by British philosopher John Stuart Mill sosialliberalisten.

On Facebook, report the man to be president of his own company. He claims he has an education in finance and religion, but does not disclose what universities he should have studied at. The only school he gives are Oslo Handel.

Ran his own company

In spring 2009, created 32-year-old a separate company that would engage in the cultivation of vegetables, root crops and bright. The company in this industry you can get access to large amounts of fertilizer.

In the end of June / July, he moved well out of the apartment in Oslo west and rural Rena in Hedmark.

Among other interests he expresses his admiration for Winston Churcill, classical music and Max Manus.

The 32-year-old man has been active in video games and has been involved in the online game World of Warcraft. In connection with this game, he posted a picture of a pistolløp.

That's a really unfortunate translation - a quirk of google translation I presume.

MagicSean · 23-07-2011 09:52AM

Interesting they mentioned his gaming. One could draw parallels to the airport scene in call of duty.

AudreyHepburn · 23-07-2011 09:53AM

Pompey Magnus wrote: »

A mistranslation......I hope!

MagicSean · 23-07-2011 09:54AM

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

15 minutes it would have taken in a Helicopter.

Listening to the initial reports coming in when there was talk of road transport taking over an hour. WTF. Some questions will be raised.

Most police forces dont have access to helicopter transport. In addition the attention would have been on the bombing.

Sir Oxman · 23-07-2011 09:55AM

Can't believe the death toll is 91, just woke up to read and hear it.

I admit my first private thought on hearing about the bomb blast yesterday in Oslo was maybe that's something to do with Al Qaeda/Middle East but I really despair at the 24hr 'news' channels (esp. Sky receivable in this country)

So desperate to make a story and add to it rather than report it - they were still pushing the alqaeda thing well into the early morning even after the arrest of Breivik.
Sure look at the British Sun's headline this morning - even for that rag, a shocking indictment of that kind of whoring media - I despise them, I really do.
They appear to have a ready made audience though looking at some of the posts on here and elsewhere.

Tabnabs · 23-07-2011 09:56AM

Seanbeag1 wrote: »

Interesting they mentioned his gaming. One could draw parallels to the airport scene in call of duty.

Apparently he was heavily into WoW also

23-07-2011 09:57AM

wow.. what are all those jerks screaming HATE MUSLIMS (or at least pointing at them) going to say now? It was one of their own rightwing idiots!

p.s Im not muslim

Absurdum · 23-07-2011 09:58AM

Seanbeag1 wrote: »

Most police forces dont have access to helicopter transport. In addition the attention would have been on the bombing.

indeed, it's easy to criticise how it panned out in hindsight, truth is that nothing can prepare civilian forces for things like this

Itsdacraic · 23-07-2011 09:58AM

What is the headline on the Sun?

Sgt. Sensible · 23-07-2011 10:01AM

Itsdacraic wrote: »

What is the headline on the Sun?

'Al Qaeda massacre', 'Norway's 9/11'.

ffs

Sir Oxman · 23-07-2011 10:02AM

Itsdacraic wrote: »

What is the headline on the Sun?

http://twitpic.com/5u6n2l

23-07-2011 10:02AM

....

94?

Christ.

Oslo bombed

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