Enda Kenny's Speech today

flahavaj · 20-07-2011 08:55PM #1

Best speech I've heard given by an Irish politician in my lifetime, brought a little tearto my eye. Hard hitting and direct where it should have been, but sensitive to the plight of the victims at the same time. We have had little to be proud of in Ireland in recent times, but I was proud to be Irish today and to have a leader with the balls to stand up and for once put the Vatican in their place.

A monumental day in Irish politics. I do some work with victims of abuse and I think this will have meant so much to them. Maith thú Enda.

Tusky · 20-07-2011 08:56PM

I had little faith in him but I must say I was impressed with it also, and not for the first time since he took over.

RosyLily · 20-07-2011 09:01PM

Really impressed with the speech. Very passionate and composed. Good to see Enda show everyone he's got teeth!
Quite proud of him. Should have been said years ago!

SeaFields · 20-07-2011 09:02PM

Fair play to him. There was an american lawyer (who represents abuse victims) on matt cooper saying the Vatican will have never heard anything like it.

El_Drago · 20-07-2011 09:03PM

for anyone who hasn't seen it :

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0720/cloyne.html#video

Fair play to him for telling it like it is.

Morag · 20-07-2011 09:03PM

If he had not used the name for the HSE's new polcies on child protection in his speech and to close his speech I would have been more impressed.
The new 'Children First' guidelines are over zealous to say the least.

Also at this stage deeds are needed not just words, expel the papal ambassador, look at removing the tax statuses of the church.

EverEvolving · 20-07-2011 09:06PM

Ya, I was in shock when I first heard it, he didn't hold back or sugar coat it fair play to him.

My name is URL · 20-07-2011 09:06PM

Words come easy.. I wonder if he has the same testicular fortitude to demand the names of those complicit in perverting the course of justice in this country, and to hold them to account over it.

Seriously, if this was a case of a MNC ordering employees not to cooperate with Gardai, somebody high up in the chain of command would have to answer for it.

Latchy · 20-07-2011 09:07PM

flahavaj wrote: »

Best speech I've heard given by an Irish politician in my lifetime, brought a little tearto my eye. Hard hitting and direct where it should have been, but sensitive to the plight of the victims at the same time. We have had little to be proud of in Ireland in recent times, but I was proud to be Irish today and to have a leader with the balls to stand up and for once put the Vatican in their place.

A monumental day in Irish politics. I do some work with victims of abuse and I think this will have meant so much to them. Maith thú Enda.

RosyLily wrote: »

Really impressed with the speech. Very passionate and composed. Good to see Enda show everyone he's got teeth!
Quite proud of him. Should have been said years ago!

SeaFields wrote: »

Fair play to him. There was an american lawyer (who represents abuse victims) on matt cooper saying the Vatican will have never heard anything like it.

^ Was listening to it live and must say I thought he spoke volumes in his direct and to the point approach .A historic day in Ireland indeed .

Micky Dolenz · 20-07-2011 09:10PM

I think he represented the mood of the nation.

MungBean · 20-07-2011 09:11PM

It needs to be backed up. Papal Nuncio needs to be booted out. Impressive speech all the same and fair play to Enda.

clerk · 20-07-2011 09:12PM

It was an excellent speech, fair play to him.

Dont be at yourself · 20-07-2011 09:13PM

He's certainly won some respect from me. Can't ever remember an Irish politician, let alone a Taoiseach, taking the Church to task over their flaws in such a manner. I hope this does signal the end of Rome's influence on Irish policy, and I hope our politicians are no longer afraid to pull them up when they clearly need to be.

tayto lover · 20-07-2011 09:13PM

A hypocrite. Soundbites imo. He allowed all the citizens of the country to bail out his friends in the banks etc and pay the Bondholders at the expense of the citizens. This is another form of abuse so he is a hypocrite.

Notorious97 · 20-07-2011 09:15PM

it was a good speech, i was glad he stood up for irish victims, enough is enough at this stage! It was long over due.

I believe in Christian faith, but how anybody can cover up or deny any wrong doing is absolutely beyond me, they should be made explain themselves, and if guilty locked up! I certainly wouldnt get away with that behaviour, if i signed up to the church maybe i would!

I think it makes an absolute mockery out of anybody who ever had faith in what they claim to stand for. I am glad it was our leader that stood up to the Vatican, they need to be told in no uncertain terms that those days are long gone, and we will put anybody guilty of these crimes on trial, we have to look after our own and not bow to a cover up.

Fair play Enda, im not a FG man but definitely have alot of repsect for Enda as i have on a few occasions lately surprisingly!

Now Enda, be consistent and tell the EU to fu*k off with this disaster of a bailout!

Spread · 20-07-2011 09:21PM

A powerful speech. Well done Kenny. Rome will try and spin something, remember the vatican is News Corp in clerical garb. It's PR people will need to be at their Machiavellian best to lighten this. There is no holding back now. Ireland has a new political hero.

Mance Rayder · 20-07-2011 09:24PM

Where can I see/Hear this? any links?

randylonghorn · 20-07-2011 09:25PM

Appropriate words, in fairness.

The proof of the pudding will be in the eating though, will be good to see how his Minister for Children performs.

KeithAFC · 20-07-2011 09:26PM

Well done to him.

Spread · 20-07-2011 09:27PM

CiscoStudent wrote: »

Where can I see/Hear this? any links?

Go to RTE NEWS and it's up there.

karma_ · 20-07-2011 09:30PM

I'd echo the sentiment already expressed, words are cheap. Let's get the fúckers prosecuted.

tayto lover · 20-07-2011 09:34PM

karma_ wrote: »

I'd echo the sentiment already expressed, words are cheap. Let's get the fúckers prosecuted.

Exactly. Will he take back control of all the schools from the Catholic Church or is it all, as i expect, just soundbites ?

Wolfe Tone · 20-07-2011 09:36PM

Just words... watch him do feck all.

Although this whole catholic thing is a nice distraction for him to deflect attention away from his govts lies, backtracking on promises, cuts directed at the most vunerable, etc etc.

Monty Burnz · 20-07-2011 09:39PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

cuts directed at the most vunerable, etc etc.

That's just rhetoric. The 'less vulnerable' - the poor PAYE donkeys who have to pay for everyone else - are being taxed and cut into oblivion. The pensioners especially, and those on the dole have got off very lightly.

There is just no money. That's not the fault of the present government.

Wolfe Tone · 20-07-2011 09:40PM

Monty Burnz wrote: »

That's just rhetoric. The 'less vulnerable' - the poor PAYE donkeys who have to pay for everyone else - are being taxed and cut into oblivion. The pensioners especially, and those on the dole have got off very lightly.

There is just no money. That's not the fault of the present government.

The most vulnerable, this countries lowest earners, are getting a very raw deal.

Monty Burnz · 20-07-2011 09:41PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

The most vulnerable, this countries lowest earners, are getting a very raw deal.

They have lost much less than middle and high earners. Who is really getting the raw deal?

And what makes low earners 'vulnerable'?

Bosco boy · 20-07-2011 09:43PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Just words... watch him do feck all.

Although this whole catholic thing is a nice distraction for him to deflect attention away from his govts lies, backtracking on promises, cuts directed at the most vunerable, etc etc.

He'll be in the front seat at mass on Sunday as usual, if it's anything like his election promise on Roscommon A + E he'll deny he ever said what he did! I'd like to think it was genuine but they are all hyprociates. As someone else said it's actions rather than words that impress me!

Wolfe Tone · 20-07-2011 09:46PM

Superbus wrote: »

I'd say his priorities are in order - the government lies didn't rape children.

The Irish govt has never given a fcuk about kids, who put them in these religious run bodies anyway and never did any checks or investigations?

Monty Burnz · 20-07-2011 09:49PM

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

The Irish govt has never given a fcuk about kids, who put them in these religious run bodies anyway and never did any checks or investigations?

Their parents, among others.

Mance Rayder · 20-07-2011 09:52PM

Monty Burnz wrote: »

They have lost much less than middle and high earners. Who is really getting the raw deal?

They have less to lose!

Monty Burnz wrote: »

And what makes low earners 'vulnerable'?

Food costs money, therefore if you cut the income of low earners who are barely getting by, they may not be able to afford to eat. Thats one example.

KeithAFC · 20-07-2011 09:55PM

Will be interesting to see what he will say when the Pope visits next year.

Enda Kenny's Speech today

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