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Catholic Church claims it is above the law

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 897 ✭✭✭crucamim


    I apologise unreservedly for calling you a big old legendary Troll.
    Im so very very sorry.

    Now will you have the manners and be Christian enough to answer Ghost Busters question.
    Let me paraphrase it:
    The Pope , Bishops, assorted Clergy and religious institutions have been proven beyond a shadow of doubt to be hurtful to catholic children.
    You have stated over and over that innocent little catholic children need protecting from those who hurt them.
    Wouldnt it be safer for non catholics to run schools.
    Discuss....

    That falls a long way short of an apology. I did not describe you or anyone else as a "troll". Nor did I abuse or insult anyone. Nor did I use vulgar language. I did have manners, you did not. And now you have the audacity to lecture me on manners.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭Suzie Sue


    smokingman wrote: »
    What's even sillier is setting up multiple accounts to push your views....

    Why would he do that ? What's his other usernames ? Have you reported him, that is not allowed !


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Suzie Sue wrote: »
    Why would he do that ? What's his other usernames ? Have you reported him, that is not allowed !
    I think he is talking about you!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 187 ✭✭Suzie Sue


    Biggins wrote: »
    I think he is talking about you!

    Now now fess up !


  • Moderators Posts: 52,142 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    crucamim wrote: »
    Anyone who does not want his child educated in a school controlled by the Catholic Church should not send his child to a school owned by the Catholic Church. It is not exactly rocket science.

    Lets start by removing all the teachers who receive their wages from the government and let the RCC source their own teachers.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭jayteecork


    NTMK wrote: »
    AFAIK the law currently is that they are only required to report if children are involved
    Mickeroo wrote: »
    It already is if I'm not mistaken? and rightly so....


    I always thought the doctor/patient confidentiality thing was taken very seriously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    crucamim wrote: »
    Anyone who does not want his child educated in a school controlled by the Catholic Church should not send his child to a school owned by the Catholic Church. It is not exactly rocket science.

    Considering they "run" 99% of primary schools, that would be difficult.
    Easier to remove religion from state funded schools and if you want your child to be catholic, bring them to mass or Sunday school.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    crucamim wrote: »
    Any person who regards the Catholic church as a "sick, twisted, disgusting cult is not a fit person to have power over Catholic.

    Firstly, it's not about having "power" over anyone.

    Secondly, the catholic church has contributed significantly to people having that view of it by acting as it has.

    Any person who has written letters telling others to SFTU about abuse is not a fit person to have power over ANYONE else, and yet those in the catholic church are expected to accept the power and word of the pope.

    How do you square those two opinons of yours ? Objecting to unfit people having power, but still being OK with Rat having power over people ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    crucamim wrote: »
    Another reason why Catholics must keep control over the education of their children. Juat imagine a bigot like this being in control over defenceless Catholic children. Just imagine his anti-Catholic children in the same classroom as the children of Catholics. Any person who regards the Catholic church as a "sick, twisted, disgusting cult is not a fit person to have power over Catholic.

    Fee Fi Fo Fum. I'm highly suspicious of these comments as they seem a bit over the top, I haven't met one person who defends the religion like this, Im not been smart you have every right to your opinion, But I think the majority of open minded educated people don't buy into this bull anymore. We know we can still be good people without it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭yutta


    charlemont wrote: »
    Fee Fi Fo Fum. I'm highly suspicious of these comments as they seem a bit over the top, I haven't met one person who defends the religion like this, Im not been smart you have every right to your opinion, But I think the majority of open minded educated people don't buy into this bull anymore. We know we can still be good people without it.

    Yeah, so open-minded their brains have fallen out.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    charlemont wrote: »
    Fee Fi Fo Fum. I'm highly suspicious of these comments as they seem a bit over the top, I haven't met one person who defends the religion like this, Im not been smart you have every right to your opinion, But I think the majority of open minded educated people don't buy into this bull anymore. We know we can still be good people without it.
    I'll pre-empt the reply:

    "That's anti-catholic. I wouldn't like a bigot like you in control of catholic children"


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,670 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    crucamim wrote: »
    Keeping them out of the clutches of people like you is a more effective protection.
    crucamim wrote: »
    As you have posted anti-Catholic propaganda, you are hardly a fit person to speak on behalf of Catholics.
    crucamim wrote: »
    Can you prove, beyond reasonable doubt, that you would not:-

    a) beat up defenceless Catholic children,
    b) insult defenceless Catholic children,
    c) encourage or allow anti-Catholic pupils to beat up Catholic children,
    d) encourage or permit anti-Catholic pupils to insult Catholic children,
    e) discriminate against Catholic children in disciplinary matters,
    f) encourage other teachers to do any of the above,
    g) cover-up other teachers bullying Catholic children?
    crucamim wrote: »
    Why should any Catholic allow his child to be taught by a person like yourself? Or allow his children to share a classroom or playground with your (presumably) anti-Catholic children?
    crucamim wrote: »
    Nor did I abuse or insult anyone. I did have manners, you did not.

    You've insulted plenty of people along with their hypothetical children.

    If it's any consolation I don't think you're a troll.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭yutta


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    You've insulted plenty of people along with their hypothetical children.

    If it's any consolation I don't think you're a troll.

    In fairness, I wouldn't say he's insulted anyone. Not much evidence there tbqh. If you're insulted by someone's opinion, that's your problem AFAIC.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,670 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    yutta wrote: »
    In fairness, I wouldn't say he's insulted anyone. Not much evidence there tbqh. If you're insulted by someone's opinion, that's your problem AFAIC.

    All insults are a matter of opinion.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    yutta wrote: »
    In fairness, I wouldn't say he's insulted anyone.
    crucamim wrote: »
    He's certainly pushing it!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭optogirl


    I hope you will appreciate that Catholics have a right to refuse to allow their children to share a classroom or playground with the children of a person who hates their church. Or to let such a person teach their dear little children.

    A rumpus about nothing - probably an attempt by members of the government to divert attention from broken promises about Roscommon hospital and lies told about a second referendum on the Treaty of Lisbon.


    That just sums you up - a rumpus about nothing?? Nice

    And as for your poor defenceless catholic parents and children - what about the rest of us who have little choice but to send our children to catholic schools when we abhor everything it stands for?
    By the way, your dear little children are encountering people every day who hate the RCC. If you want to know who to blame for that, it's the RCC.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,670 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    jayteecork wrote: »
    I always thought the doctor/patient confidentiality thing was taken very seriously.

    It is, but if the patient declares they're going to harm someone then I think they have to come forward. I could be wrong now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    This thread has become troll bait.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,395 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    philologos wrote: »
    This thread has become troll bait.

    Every religious v non religious thread on the internethas some form of trolling on it


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 273 ✭✭Tehachapi


    philologos wrote: »
    This thread has become troll bait.

    Roughly translated: "The religious side are losing, let's close the thread".


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    yutta wrote: »
    In fairness, I wouldn't say he's insulted anyone. Not much evidence there tbqh. If you're insulted by someone's opinion, that's your problem AFAIC.
    If I told you I wanted children out of the clutches of Catholics (with 1000 re-reg accounts) because I feared they were at a greater risk of being beaten and demeaned, would you be insulted?

    Crucanim is a troll, in any case - a parody of Catholics with a massive sense of self-entitlement playing the victimised minority.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,725 ✭✭✭charlemont


    yutta wrote: »
    Yeah, so open-minded their brains have fallen out.

    It leaves plenty of space for the Devil to creep in..:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,479 ✭✭✭✭philologos


    Tehachapi wrote: »
    Roughly translated: "The religious side are losing, let's close the thread".

    This is for you.

    What "religious side"? Have you read any of my posts thus far before you lump me in a side?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭yutta


    Pace2008 wrote: »
    If I told you I wanted children out of the clutches of Catholics (with 1000 re-reg accounts) because I feared they were at a greater risk of being beaten and demeaned, would you be insulted?

    Crucanim is a troll, in any case - a parody of Catholics with a massive sense of self-entitlement playing the victimised minority.

    Wha? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    philologos wrote: »
    This thread has become troll bait.
    It's called splitting hairs to keep on track


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭yutta


    Catholics in 2011 are the new Jews of the 1930s.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,190 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    yutta wrote: »
    Catholics in 2011 are the new Jews of the 1930s.
    Sweeping generalisations wouldn't fit that discrption but Walter Mitty springs to mind .


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,670 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    yutta wrote: »
    Catholics in 2011 are the new Jews of the 1930s.

    __?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 429 ✭✭yutta


    Latchy wrote: »
    Sweeping generalisations wouldn't fit that discrption but Walter Mitty springs to mind .

    Why do you put a space before your full stops? Is that how it's done in Uranus?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,587 ✭✭✭Pace2008


    yutta wrote: »
    Catholics in 2011 are the new Jews of the 1930s.
    http://i628.photobucket.com/albums/uu6/meimichan/21j7neh.gif?t=1258049302


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