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Charity Clothes Collections? @ 4.30am

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  • #32
    landsleaving
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,345 ✭✭✭landsleaving


    Seanbeag1 wrote: »

    Ringing the number isn't always enough. You should make sure it is a properly registered charity if you want to be 100%.

    Good point, the few I've gotten though have been the Irish Cancer Society and Enable when they were (I assume) legit, and when not so much so it was something I didn't recognise so I think, not sure now mind, but I think I got it right!


  • #33
    alwaysadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,554 ✭✭✭✭alwaysadub


    Needler wrote: »
    Dublin or Galway?

    Dublin.
    I live in the middle of nowhere in Galway, don't get anyone going door to door thankfully!


  • #34
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Toby Take a Bow wrote: »



    How does dropping a leaflet allow them to check out houses?

    They leave them hanging out the letterbox, if they are still there after a while they know the owners are away.


  • #35
    Toby Take a Bow
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    They leave them hanging out the letterbox, if they are still there after a while they know the owners are away.

    Very interesting. Thanks!


  • #36
    phasers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    The other day one of these guys was around at about 7AM. He pulled the flap (slat? opening? Letter-door?) from my letterbox off it's hinges and then fcuked it in the porch with a ton of crappy leaflets. One of them was for my Local TD. I sent her an angry email but she didn't reply!

    I had to stick it back on with duct tape and superglue, there was a fierce draft coming through it.


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  • #37
    January
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    They leave them hanging out the letterbox, if they are still there after a while they know the owners are away.

    That or they try the door (especially if it's one of those uPVC doors) handle and see if the door has been left unlocked.


  • #38
    phasers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,159 ✭✭✭✭phasers


    January wrote: »
    That or they try the door (especially if it's one of those uPVC doors) handle and see if the door has been left unlocked.
    They tried this when I was at my Sister's house alone babysitting my Nephew one night at about 1am, I was bloody terrified.


  • #39
    MagicSean
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    You are wrong, I know for a fact the Garda, at least the ones I have dealt with, regard it as theft. Opening someones porch and nicking clothes is theft.

    They are not thrown out.

    Have you ever heard of anyone being prosecuted for it?


  • #40
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    Seanbeag1 wrote: »
    Have you ever heard of anyone being prosecuted for it?
    I know a few have been arrested over it, prosecuted, idk, I'm not involved with the charity anymore.

    They had solicitors advising them over it, and we even had a garda in one of the days to talk to us about it as a group and what to do if we caught someone stealing the stuff (dont confront them, call the Gardaí, take the reg of their vans, and take pictures too if it was safe to do so)


  • #41
    LighterGuy
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    Many of those clothes charity pick-ups are a scam.
    You think you doing something good by getting rid of any old clothes so that perhaps they may help somebody less fortunate.

    In reality, you are only helping scammers or someone of "ill conscience" to put it lightly. But then again all charitries are a business.

    Those plastic envelopes asking to donate your old mobile phone were the best. they were being sold on in african countries.


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  • #42
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    LighterGuy wrote: »
    Many of those clothes charity pick-ups are a scam.
    You think you doing something good by getting rid of any old clothes so that perhaps they may help somebody less fortunate.

    In reality, you are only helping scammers or someone of "ill conscience" to put it lightly. But then again all charitries are a business.

    Those plastic envelopes asking to donate your old mobile phone were the best. they were being sold on in african countries.
    Rule of thumb for "charity" clothing collections:

    If its a sticker, its a scam.


  • #43
    LighterGuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Rule of thumb for "charity" clothing collections:

    If its a sticker, its a scam.

    agreed.
    but sadly, rule of thumb also .. if its a charity... most likely its a con too. I dont want to make a bold statement of saying all charities are a con/money racket etc. But i'd be foolish to say the majority werent at the same time.


  • #44
    Cantona's Collars
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    I know a guy who left his workboots in his porch and caught one of these guys trying to take them at 6.30am,he confronted him and asked for id-cue yer man heading for his van and scarpering.
    The legit guy's by coincidence turned up a few minutes later and said they have huge problems with scam artists stealing clothes that are left out.


  • #45
    LighterGuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    Its definitely a way to make money isnt it :pac: sure, albeit dishonest.
    No wonder they put them in around 5-6ish in the morning. So no one asks questions or sees who.


    No money to be made in recession? .. not exactly lol.


  • #46
    MapForJ
    Closed Accounts Posts: 354 ✭✭MapForJ


    landsleaving wrote: »
    Good point, the few I've gotten though have been the Irish Cancer Society and Enable when they were (I assume) legit, and when not so much so it was something I didn't recognise so I think, not sure now mind, but I think I got it right!
    sometimes the scammers use the name of legit organisations on the bag or sticker. i once got one with a sticker from a dublin based organisation which i cannot recall and on phoning them was told it was a scam and had been reported to gardai


  • #47
    biko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,060 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Most if not all are scammers but they usually don't lie. They don't mention anywhere that they are a charity.
    They just promise "new life" for old clothes. The money goes to "poor people".

    Apparently they also go around looking for bags for real charities and steal them

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054933493
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=66902598


    How charity clothes line Lithuanian pockets
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1569695/How-charity-clothes-line-Lithuanian-pockets.html
    Bags of used clothes intended as donations to help the needy are instead being shipped to former Eastern bloc countries to be sold at a profit in street markets.

    Beware scam charity clothing collectors
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/sep/21/beware-scam-charity-clothing-collectors


  • #48
    jajjay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭jajjay


    Make sure you lock the cars in your driveway, man told me tonight that he often sees these leaflet dropers checking car doors and ALSO FRONT DOORS...... SO LOCK UP!!!


  • #49
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    I used to deliver these things at around 7am in the morning, its the handiest time to do it at tbf.

    What messages did you deliver at that hour of the morning? :eek:


  • #50
    LighterGuy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,243 ✭✭✭LighterGuy


    Is it really wrong to do this?
    As Biko said, most people doing this never say charitiy. A technicality we know. But is it really wrong?

    If there is money to be made, people are willing to give stuff (lets be honest, foolishly) .. is it really that wrong?

    dog eat dog world.
    get what you can.
    life aint fair.
    etc.


  • #51
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    efb wrote: »
    What messages did you deliver at that hour of the morning? :eek:
    Charity clothing collection bags


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  • #52
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    Charity clothing collection bags

    What Charity?


  • #53
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    efb wrote: »
    What Charity?
    I'm not going to say, but it is a legit charity with a large number of shops.


  • #54
    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    throw in a couple of ink bombs, or better yet a few dirty nappies.


  • #55
    Oh_Noes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    Seems like I'm in a minority but I completely agree with you OP. I don't want these people banging my letterbox at 4:30 am either. It seems to be a weekly occurance and usually starts my dogs off as well as giving me the odd fright. It's not the same as milkmen and binmen because those people are providing an essential service and they aren't banging on your letterbox.

    There should definitely be legislation brought in to combat these really unsavoury practices.


  • #56
    aligator_am
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭aligator_am


    krudler wrote: »
    save up your jocks and leave them unwashed, then give em those, keep the change you filthy animals.

    I doubt they give a fook, I think think stuff is sold by the tonne to Africa.

    You'll also hear stories of Roma squads dropping small kids (of their own ilk, not randomers lol) into clothes bins / skips to push back out the bags, sounds like an urban legend to me, have never seen it first hand.


  • #57
    aligator_am
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭aligator_am


    Something I have heard of though, from several differnt sources is that there's usually a running battle between the travellers, the eastern europeans and lately the roma to collect the bags of clothes in the early hours of the morning.

    Must be like the royal rumble, only with slash hooks and hunting knives!


  • #58
    Wolfe Tone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭Wolfe Tone


    aligator_am wrote: »
    I doubt they give a fook, I think think stuff is sold by the tonne to Africa.

    You'll also hear stories of Roma squads dropping small kids (of their own ilk, not randomers lol) into clothes bins / skips to push back out the bags, sounds like an urban legend to me, have never seen it first hand.
    100% true, personally I have discovered roma kids in clothes banks with their folks waiting outside getting clothes handed up to them. Most clothes banks these days are designed to stop this, which also means you cant fit decent sized bags in.


  • #59
    aligator_am
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭aligator_am


    jajjay wrote: »
    Make sure you lock the cars in your driveway, man told me tonight that he often sees these leaflet dropers checking car doors and ALSO FRONT DOORS...... SO LOCK UP!!!

    Funny you say that, got an email from the neighbourhood watch a while back about that, where, handle on doors without letterboxes were being tried (they had mailbox on the wall beside door).

    Only a couple of weeks back I got up and was unlocking door for work and the key kept spinning, opened door and the front half of the lock was gone! in my own stupidity I'd forgotten to arm the alarm, but be on the lookout, the part where the key goes in was completely missing, looks like they snapped the barrell in half.

    Out of interest, I'm guessing it's illegal to own a flamethrower in Ireland?


  • #60
    aligator_am
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,598 ✭✭✭aligator_am


    Wolfe Tone wrote: »
    100% true, personally I have discovered roma kids in clothes banks with their folks waiting outside getting clothes handed up to them. Most clothes banks these days are designed to stop this, which also means you cant fit decent sized bags in.

    Can you fit a grenade in? just wondering ;)


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  • #61
    starlit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    It must be a hoax, a scam I say. Most places like that wouldn't want stuff till late in the morning or early in the afternoon and its usually at a certain place not send it off to a unknown postbox and send it off!? If its a genuine charity collection then it be no problem but the time, place and other details doesn't sound so good OP. If it states a genuine charity ya but if it doesn't and that it doesn't sound legit don't give your stuff away! Go to a charity shop if you are any bit doubtful about those collections!


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