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Tesco Self Service Tills

  • 16-07-2011 12:47PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭


    Was using them this morning and was wondering what was stopping me not scanning thru half my items and just popping them in my bag. Now being the upstanding honest pillar of the community that I am, I scanned all my items and paid for them accordingly.

    But is it really that easy to steal items using these tills or does scanning them thru also entail removing a security alert from the item which won't set off any alarms.

    Anyone on AH try this before?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    If you try to, you'll have an 'unexpected item in bagging area' woman screaming at you. At my local Tesco, you only have to breathe near the till to set it off.


    There's always a member of staff floating around the self-service checkouts too, I'm sure they'd notice if you tried to drop something into your bag without scanning it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    So you're asking is it easy to steal from Tesco self-service scanners?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    kfallon wrote: »
    Was using them this morning and was wondering what was stopping me not scanning thru half my items and just popping them in my bag. Now being the upstanding honest pillar of the community that I am, I scanned all my items and paid for them accordingly.

    But is it really that easy to steal items using these tills or does scanning them thru also entail removing a security alert from the item which won't set off any alarms.

    Anyone on AH try this before?

    Worked in Tesco for bleeding donkeys' years and there is an alert that flashes up when there's an unexplained weight in the bagging area. Hence the annoying "unexpected item in the bagging area"! That's what stops people being a bit liberal with what they scan and what they don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    The thing you put your items on weighs your shopping. Im sure they have a margin of error so you might get away with a packet of chewing gums


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,036 ✭✭✭✭Giblet


    Well you could just leave without using the scan either I guess?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,701 ✭✭✭✭Tigger


    you scan an item then it looks for that weight on the bagging area then you scan the next item

    thats is all you need if you wanna be theivy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    The thing you put your items on weighs your your shopping. Im sure they have a margin of error so you might get away with a packet of chewing gums

    Nope, no margin of error. That's why they even freak out about bags you put down. Or elbows. Or keys. Or children. God, I hate the self scan checkouts. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭Chris P. Bacon


    I hate using them things,taking peoples jobs is what they are!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,228 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    The way they work is strange, in that the computer knows the weight of everything as well as its price. After you scan something, that weight needs to appear on the scale, and if something appears on the scale that wasn't scanned, it sets off the alarm. That includes any shopping bag you may have: seems to me as if the machines are designed for the UK, where there are no restrictions on plastic bags.

    But to answer your question - sure, you could probably send something straight from your basket in to your bag. It would have to be something cheap, since expensive items are tagged. There are staff around, and cameras, but if you get away with it, they just call it "shrinkage" and write it off. Just how desperate do you have to be to steal from Tesco? :rolleyes:

    In its pure form, fascism is the sum total of all irrational reactions of the average human character.

    ― Wilhelm Reich



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    Or you could just rob it like a normal thief by sticking an expensive item up ones rectum.

    btw I hate self service retards. self service checkouts are around years their not hard to use aaarrrgghhh >:(





    /heads off to ranting and raving forum


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,592 ✭✭✭Ro: maaan!


    Scan light/expensive fruit and veg as heavy/cheap ones instead. Choose potato for your bag of mushrooms.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    TheZohan wrote: »
    So you're asking is it easy to steal from Tesco self-service scanners?

    Well done, you managed to decipher the code of my OP, espcially the bit where I asked, "Is it really that easy to steal items using these tills?"

    We have a genius in our midst!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    btw I hate self service retards. self service checkouts are around years their not hard to use aaarrrgghhh >:(





    /heads off to ranting and raving forum

    Who said they were hard to use :confused:

    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    kfallon wrote: »
    Well done, you managed to decipher the code of my OP, espcially the bit where I asked, "Is it really that easy to steal items using these tills?"

    We have a genius in our midst!

    It was no Da Vinci Code, I'll give you that.:D

    It's great that Boards Ltd is providing people with a platform to share ideas on how to steal from Tesco Ltd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    Or you could just rob it like a normal thief by sticking an expensive item up ones rectum.

    kfallon wrote: »
    Who said they were hard to use :confused:

    :rolleyes:

    I answered the OP first and just added that in. Have you never had the torture of being stuck behind a self service retard:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    I'm not 14 so the shame of being caught thieving a packet of jacks roll or loaf of bread in front of a shop full of people would probably be enough of a deterrent without electronic assistance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    The way the shop looks at it there's a certain percentage that will be robbed through this system but it's still more efficient than employing cashiers. A bank of 12 machines will replace atleast 8 staff as they work many shifts, so if you take an average wage of 25k a year that would be €200,000 worth of theft of nearly €4,000 a week that can be stolen without it impacting on the savings they are making. The machines work 24 hours a day with little downtime, don't need breaks, don't get sick leave, don't get maternity leave, it's starting to look all a bit Terminatoresque :D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    TheZohan wrote: »
    It's great that Boards Ltd is providing people with a platform to share ideas on how to steal from Tesco Ltd.

    Maybe I've brought it up here in the hope that people who are employed by Tesco will read this thread and will improve security on these tills to stop pilfering. I didn't see a store manager there this morn to pass on my concerns.

    Interesting tho the way both our minds work in a completely different way ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,581 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    kfallon wrote: »
    Maybe I've brought it up here in the hope that people who are employed by Tesco will read this thread and will improve security on these tills to stop pilfering. I didn't see a store manager there this morn to pass on my concerns.

    Interesting tho the way both our minds work in a completely different way ;)

    I have competition for the 2011 "Heart of Gold Award" so. ;)


    On a slightly related note, does anyone know how to get multiroom UPC for free? Just so people who are employed by UPC will read this thread etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    kfallon wrote: »
    Was using them this morning and was wondering what was stopping me not scanning thru half my items and just popping them in my bag. Now being the upstanding honest pillar of the community that I am, I scanned all my items and paid for them accordingly.

    But is it really that easy to steal items using these tills or does scanning them thru also entail removing a security alert from the item which won't set off any alarms.

    Anyone on AH try this before?

    Next time scan half your items and let us know what happened.

    If you get away with it we will all try it.

    you should shop in M&S.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    hondasam wrote: »
    you should shop in M&S.

    Normally I do because I'm posh....and worth it! :D

    Still you can't beat Tesco or SuperValu for the essentials!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭Millicent


    The way the shop looks at it there's a certain percentage that will be robbed through this system but it's still more efficient than employing cashiers. A bank of 12 machines will replace atleast 8 staff as they work many shifts, so if you take an average wage of 25k a year that would be €200,000 worth of theft of nearly €4,000 a week that can be stolen without it impacting on the savings they are making. The machines work 24 hours a day with little downtime, don't need breaks, don't get sick leave, don't get maternity leave, it's starting to look all a bit Terminatoresque :D.

    An average wage of 25K! Lololololololol! Did you ever wonder why so many retail staff look so pissed off? It's definitely not because they're on 25K. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    kfallon wrote: »
    Normally I do because I'm posh....and worth it! :D

    you might be posh, no man is worth it:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,775 ✭✭✭✭kfallon


    hondasam wrote: »
    you might be posh, no man is worth it:D

    Oh I am :D
    I answered the OP first and just added that in. Have you never had the torture of being stuck behind a self service retard:confused:

    I have a little thing called patience, it's great :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 658 ✭✭✭The Jammy dodger


    Its no wonder we have so many people on the dole. we are being replaced by robots now. Seems like tesco just took this thing in and nobody gave out about it. Gotta love the Irish, we just let people away with murder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Its no wonder we have so many people on the dole. we are being replaced by robots now. Seems like tesco just took this thing in and nobody gave out about it. Gotta love the Irish, we just let people away with murder.

    You can't run drink through the self-service tills so the dread grip of the retail apocalypse is not yet fully upon us.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭2 stroke


    The way the shop looks at it there's a certain percentage that will be robbed through this system but it's still more efficient than employing cashiers. A bank of 12 machines will replace atleast 8 staff as they work many shifts, so if you take an average wage of 25k a year that would be €200,000 worth of theft of nearly €4,000 a week that can be stolen without it impacting on the savings they are making. The machines work 24 hours a day with little downtime, don't need breaks, don't get sick leave, don't get maternity leave, it's starting to look all a bit Terminatoresque :D.

    25k working for tesco? Whatever they do spend on wages is largely regurgitated in store in weekly shopping, so the true cost is much less.

    I avoid shopping in tesco due to these machines replacing staff. However sometimes I get caught having to do a late night shop and insist on using the normal till. One night recently a staff member insisted on putting my items through the self service till for me, I let her, then I refused to produce my credit card saying I thought she was going to pay too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,303 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    The self scan machines are ok for up to about a dozen items then it gets too complicated with stuff piling up at one end while you are still putting stuff through. And you have to wait for tags to be taken off. And do not go in and just buy their €12 meal deal - the number of things that can go wrong...this isn't in the deal, thats the wrong wine...much easier to sort at a checkout.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    i hate at the end when it says 'please take your items' while your packing the bag. all its short of saying is 'there is more people behind you who we want money off, please take your items and fuck off'


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    The way the shop looks at it there's a certain percentage that will be robbed through this system but it's still more efficient than employing cashiers. A bank of 12 machines will replace atleast 8 staff as they work many shifts, so if you take an average wage of 25k a year that would be 200,000 worth of theft of nearly 4,000 a week that can be stolen without it impacting on the savings they are making.
    Well, when you put it like that, it'd be rude not to steal at least a few things


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