Tesco Self Service Tills

kfallon

Was using them this morning and was wondering what was stopping me not scanning thru half my items and just popping them in my bag. Now being the upstanding honest pillar of the community that I am, I scanned all my items and paid for them accordingly.

But is it really that easy to steal items using these tills or does scanning them thru also entail removing a security alert from the item which won't set off any alarms.

Anyone on AH try this before?

brummytom

If you try to, you'll have an 'unexpected item in bagging area' woman screaming at you. At my local Tesco, you only have to breathe near the till to set it off.


There's always a member of staff floating around the self-service checkouts too, I'm sure they'd notice if you tried to drop something into your bag without scanning it.

TheZohanS

So you're asking is it easy to steal from Tesco self-service scanners?

Millicent

kfallon wrote: »

Was using them this morning and was wondering what was stopping me not scanning thru half my items and just popping them in my bag. Now being the upstanding honest pillar of the community that I am, I scanned all my items and paid for them accordingly.

But is it really that easy to steal items using these tills or does scanning them thru also entail removing a security alert from the item which won't set off any alarms.

Anyone on AH try this before?

Worked in Tesco for bleeding donkeys' years and there is an alert that flashes up when there's an unexplained weight in the bagging area. Hence the annoying "unexpected item in the bagging area"! That's what stops people being a bit liberal with what they scan and what they don't.

Richard Hillman

The thing you put your items on weighs your shopping. Im sure they have a margin of error so you might get away with a packet of chewing gums

Giblet

Well you could just leave without using the scan either I guess?

Tigger

you scan an item then it looks for that weight on the bagging area then you scan the next item

thats is all you need if you wanna be theivy

Millicent

Richard Hillman wrote: »

The thing you put your items on weighs your your shopping. Im sure they have a margin of error so you might get away with a packet of chewing gums

Nope, no margin of error. That's why they even freak out about bags you put down. Or elbows. Or keys. Or children. God, I hate the self scan checkouts.

Chris P. Bacon

I hate using them things,taking peoples jobs is what they are!

bnt

The way they work is strange, in that the computer knows the weight of everything as well as its price. After you scan something, that weight needs to appear on the scale, and if something appears on the scale that wasn't scanned, it sets off the alarm. That includes any shopping bag you may have: seems to me as if the machines are designed for the UK, where there are no restrictions on plastic bags.

But to answer your question - sure, you could probably send something straight from your basket in to your bag. It would have to be something cheap, since expensive items are tagged. There are staff around, and cameras, but if you get away with it, they just call it "shrinkage" and write it off. Just how desperate do you have to be to steal from Tesco? :rolleyes:

questionmark?

Or you could just rob it like a normal thief by sticking an expensive item up ones rectum.

btw I hate self service retards. self service checkouts are around years their not hard to use aaarrrgghhh >:(





/heads off to ranting and raving forum

Ro: maaan!

Scan light/expensive fruit and veg as heavy/cheap ones instead. Choose potato for your bag of mushrooms.

kfallon

TheZohan wrote: »

So you're asking is it easy to steal from Tesco self-service scanners?

Well done, you managed to decipher the code of my OP, espcially the bit where I asked, "Is it really that easy to steal items using these tills?"

We have a genius in our midst!

kfallon

questionmark? wrote: »

btw I hate self service retards. self service checkouts are around years their not hard to use aaarrrgghhh >:(





/heads off to ranting and raving forum

Who said they were hard to use

:rolleyes:

TheZohanS

kfallon wrote: »

Well done, you managed to decipher the code of my OP, espcially the bit where I asked, "Is it really that easy to steal items using these tills?"

We have a genius in our midst!

It was no Da Vinci Code, I'll give you that.:D

It's great that Boards Ltd is providing people with a platform to share ideas on how to steal from Tesco Ltd.

questionmark?

questionmark? wrote: »

Or you could just rob it like a normal thief by sticking an expensive item up ones rectum.

kfallon wrote: »

Who said they were hard to use

:rolleyes:

I answered the OP first and just added that in. Have you never had the torture of being stuck behind a self service retard

stovelid

I'm not 14 so the shame of being caught thieving a packet of jacks roll or loaf of bread in front of a shop full of people would probably be enough of a deterrent without electronic assistance.

Atlantic Dawn

The way the shop looks at it there's a certain percentage that will be robbed through this system but it's still more efficient than employing cashiers. A bank of 12 machines will replace atleast 8 staff as they work many shifts, so if you take an average wage of 25k a year that would be €200,000 worth of theft of nearly €4,000 a week that can be stolen without it impacting on the savings they are making. The machines work 24 hours a day with little downtime, don't need breaks, don't get sick leave, don't get maternity leave, it's starting to look all a bit Terminatoresque .

kfallon

TheZohan wrote: »

It's great that Boards Ltd is providing people with a platform to share ideas on how to steal from Tesco Ltd.

Maybe I've brought it up here in the hope that people who are employed by Tesco will read this thread and will improve security on these tills to stop pilfering. I didn't see a store manager there this morn to pass on my concerns.

Interesting tho the way both our minds work in a completely different way

TheZohanS

kfallon wrote: »

Maybe I've brought it up here in the hope that people who are employed by Tesco will read this thread and will improve security on these tills to stop pilfering. I didn't see a store manager there this morn to pass on my concerns.

Interesting tho the way both our minds work in a completely different way

I have competition for the 2011 "Heart of Gold Award" so.


On a slightly related note, does anyone know how to get multiroom UPC for free? Just so people who are employed by UPC will read this thread etc.

hondasam

kfallon wrote: »

Was using them this morning and was wondering what was stopping me not scanning thru half my items and just popping them in my bag. Now being the upstanding honest pillar of the community that I am, I scanned all my items and paid for them accordingly.

But is it really that easy to steal items using these tills or does scanning them thru also entail removing a security alert from the item which won't set off any alarms.

Anyone on AH try this before?

Next time scan half your items and let us know what happened.

If you get away with it we will all try it.

you should shop in M&S.

kfallon

hondasam wrote: »

you should shop in M&S.

Normally I do because I'm posh....and worth it!

Still you can't beat Tesco or SuperValu for the essentials!

Millicent

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

The way the shop looks at it there's a certain percentage that will be robbed through this system but it's still more efficient than employing cashiers. A bank of 12 machines will replace atleast 8 staff as they work many shifts, so if you take an average wage of 25k a year that would be €200,000 worth of theft of nearly €4,000 a week that can be stolen without it impacting on the savings they are making. The machines work 24 hours a day with little downtime, don't need breaks, don't get sick leave, don't get maternity leave, it's starting to look all a bit Terminatoresque .

An average wage of 25K! Lololololololol! Did you ever wonder why so many retail staff look so pissed off? It's definitely not because they're on 25K. :P

hondasam

kfallon wrote: »

Normally I do because I'm posh....and worth it!

you might be posh, no man is worth it:D

kfallon

hondasam wrote: »

you might be posh, no man is worth it:D

Oh I am

questionmark? wrote: »

I answered the OP first and just added that in. Have you never had the torture of being stuck behind a self service retard

I have a little thing called patience, it's great

The Jammy dodger

Its no wonder we have so many people on the dole. we are being replaced by robots now. Seems like tesco just took this thing in and nobody gave out about it. Gotta love the Irish, we just let people away with murder.

stovelid

The Jammy dodger wrote: »

Its no wonder we have so many people on the dole. we are being replaced by robots now. Seems like tesco just took this thing in and nobody gave out about it. Gotta love the Irish, we just let people away with murder.

You can't run drink through the self-service tills so the dread grip of the retail apocalypse is not yet fully upon us.

2 stroke

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

The way the shop looks at it there's a certain percentage that will be robbed through this system but it's still more efficient than employing cashiers. A bank of 12 machines will replace atleast 8 staff as they work many shifts, so if you take an average wage of 25k a year that would be €200,000 worth of theft of nearly €4,000 a week that can be stolen without it impacting on the savings they are making. The machines work 24 hours a day with little downtime, don't need breaks, don't get sick leave, don't get maternity leave, it's starting to look all a bit Terminatoresque .

25k working for tesco? Whatever they do spend on wages is largely regurgitated in store in weekly shopping, so the true cost is much less.

I avoid shopping in tesco due to these machines replacing staff. However sometimes I get caught having to do a late night shop and insist on using the normal till. One night recently a staff member insisted on putting my items through the self service till for me, I let her, then I refused to produce my credit card saying I thought she was going to pay too.

looksee

The self scan machines are ok for up to about a dozen items then it gets too complicated with stuff piling up at one end while you are still putting stuff through. And you have to wait for tags to be taken off. And do not go in and just buy their €12 meal deal - the number of things that can go wrong...this isn't in the deal, thats the wrong wine...much easier to sort at a checkout.

admiralofthefleet

i hate at the end when it says 'please take your items' while your packing the bag. all its short of saying is 'there is more people behind you who we want money off, please take your items and fuck off'

im invisible

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

The way the shop looks at it there's a certain percentage that will be robbed through this system but it's still more efficient than employing cashiers. A bank of 12 machines will replace atleast 8 staff as they work many shifts, so if you take an average wage of 25k a year that would be 200,000 worth of theft of nearly 4,000 a week that can be stolen without it impacting on the savings they are making.

Well, when you put it like that, it'd be rude not to steal at least a few things

hoodwinked

stovelid wrote: »

You can't run drink through the self-service tills so the dread grip of the retail apocalypse is not yet fully upon us.

yes you can! although it always pisses me off because the assistant comes up scans their barcode thing and tap's "yes the customer looks over 25" i look well under 25 thank you ID ME!!! :mad:

2 stroke

If you want to remove items from tesco, pay for them, then compare your till receipt against shelf prices. Any item you are overcharged on, they give you for free.

johngalway

hondasam wrote: »

you should shop in M&S.

I was in M&S in Galway recently, the amount of items there that come directly from the UK is awful, there's no supporting the Irish economy in that place. Tesco isn't a lot better.

The thing I like about self service check outs is you don't get delayed by a couple of wagons chattering away holding up the line.

Mickeroo

Meh, if you really feel you want to steal food from tescos the trick is not to bring it to the til.

knird evol

You gotta do surveillance first. Know where all the cameras are and where they look. The positioning of security guards. All entry and exit points.

You'll need a good brief.

During your first spell in prison it's important that on the first day you take out the toughest motherfxcker in the place, send out a message.

The most important thing On the street you wanna be makin' roves, you don't put anything in your life you can't walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you spot heat around the corner.

silvine

I shop in Lidl. Problem solved.

cosanostra

razor blades are the thinks to not scan there expensive and not bulky but make sure you have the money to cover the entire bag of shopping just incase you get caught

OutlawPete

I love them.

Superquinn is where I use them most (but Tesco in Parnell St now also). No minimum charge when you use Credit or Debit cards, no twat telling you to enter your pin and the machines don't start chatting to each other either, bliss.

CorkMan

I stole from a tesco once, well I was sorta coerced. I was with a scumbag whom my friend new. My friend had to leave in town and I was stuck with the man. I had to stay with him a bit due to the occasion, but there was a Tesco's around half way to where I would stay with my friend for the night.

The scumbag came up with the idea of stealing some wine, "I'm a professional robber, bruv", he said. Anyway I went into the store with him and he told me to keep an eye out for security, which I did. He obviously knew what he was doing, I had no idea, I never robbed before. In the end we both snuck a bottle of wine into our jackets and walked out of the place. I never robbed since, but I hear ya man is in prison for violent robbery.

You wouldn't mind, the bottles were only €10 each, I could have paid for them no problem, but I didn't want to have to show my wallet to him.

Conor108

I always have to try not say thanks to it as I walk off.

onion rings

they are great for getting rid of spare change, they start making odd noises when you throw too much in though.

mikemac

2 stroke wrote: »

If you want to remove items from tesco, pay for them, then compare your till receipt against shelf prices. Any item you are overcharged on, they give you for free.

Not anymore, that policy has changed

Naikon

I hate when those "assistants" come over. Not much point investing in a self service system when realiability is compromised. Leave me the fcuk alone. Lordy.

jack presley

brummytom wrote: »

'unexpected item in bagging area'

Frank Skinner had a good rant about this on his radio show. He put his bag there and it went off and his argument to the woman was if there was one thing you'd expect to find in a bagging area, surely it was a bag?

nitromaster

One time, was buying like 3 cans of bulmers + 2 cans of druids.

The self service assistant scanned a can of druids and entered 5 for quantity :pac: (druids = 1.25, bulmers = like double that)

Would have only bought the one can of druids and maybe a couple more bulmers if knew that was gonna happen :pac:


Might have pointed out the mistake if she had scanned the bulmers......:cool:

ShadowGal

Ive had many a hissy fit at the self service tills.

Please wait for assistance

unauthorized item on tray (or whatever)

Ahhhhhhrrggh

Liam Byrne

bnt wrote: »

The way they work is strange, in that the computer knows the weight of everything as well as its price. After you scan something, that weight needs to appear on the scale, and if something appears on the scale that wasn't scanned, it sets off the alarm.

All well and good, but presumably the OP's point is that you simply DON'T scan it and DON'T put it on the scale ?

Standman

Do a Christopher Multisanti on it and jam a wedge of paper under the weighing scales

harry21

Standman wrote: »

Do a Christopher Multisanti on it and jam a wedge of paper under the weighing scales

Ha. Now your talking?

Just shop in Lidl, no need to rob then!!

efb

I wish people who have difficulty using the service tills would just go to the checkout so those who can use them aren't unduly inconvenienced.