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Do you care about spelling (online)?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    I care about spelling in general, and yes, bad spelling on an official website would make me a little suspicious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    hondasam wrote: »
    your secretary type that for you ?:D

    Dear Hondasam,

    Mr. Duffy would like to thank you for your correspondence of 14 July 2011. He will respond to your concerns on his return.

    Yours sincerely

    A. Secretary


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,098 ✭✭✭kiffer


    barbarians wrote: »
    It can't be that hard to get all your spelling and grammar correct even for responding to a boards thread. I think grammatically correct sentences/responses look much better and tidier.

    I would go so far to say a grammatically correct response is taken more seriously or respected more than a grammatically incorrect, hard to comprehend sentence filled with spelling mistakes even if they both made the same point.

    (Where was my spelling mistake ? :P)

    ugh... My spelling is a bit poor so I didn't notice any spelling mistakes, but that space before your question mark burns through my mind like a redhot lead-ball. I guess that wouldn't be a spelling mistake, which is what you asked us to point out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    I like to use proper grammer online.
    *bites lip*

    That....was meant to be ironic right?


  • Posts: 81,308 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Dax Delicious Limb


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    *bites lip*

    That....was meant to be ironic right?

    Nah, he doesn't care about spelling as long as his grammar is fine. :pac:


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  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 18,841 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    Why? There's nothing wrong with his grammar?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    Not spelling because loads of people have issues with it and we don't all have the patience to spellcheck our posts but I really don't like when people don't use capitals and at least halfway decent grammar. And textspeak is just wrong on so many levels.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭J_E


    I guess I'm just overly sensitive when people misspell words like grammar, your/you're, their/there/they're.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Noo


    I can't stand bad spelling and grammar. On facebook and other internet things like that I just tend to ignore it but some of my really close friends are making really bad spelling errors, there/theyre/their, your/you're, are/our (still don't get that one), recked, discusting, jelous etc. which of course I let slide (I don't want to go all grammar Nazi on them) but I'm afraid they're forming bad habits. They have just finished college and are complaining about sending out loads of job applications and not getting anywhere. Next time they complain I'm going to beg them to show me their applications so I can proof read them! I'm sure they'll be appalling.

    Just like a bad spelling on a job application, bad spelling and grammar on a website is just unprofessional.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭FTGFOP


    I never re-check what I've written, sometimes to my detriment. In fact, it's landed me in some pretty embarrassing situations!

    Do tell!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 449 ✭✭Emiko


    bluewolf wrote: »
    "It didn't phase me" would be a good example there.

    That's a stunning error.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,152 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    I like to use proper grammer online.

    But not proper spelling ?

    On a professional site, it's a complete turn-off.

    On boards, facebook, blogs and the like, it's just irritating and makes me ignore them....the odd typo is forgiveable, but if something is written in text speak I just ignore the post because the writer didn't think it important enough to make it readable....therefore it mustn't be important.

    Likewise the "that's not a word / phrase" reaction that kicks in when people make stuff up like "could of" and other such nonsense.......but as others have pointed out above, that's now so commonplace that it makes you wonder where and when it started and why there's such a wide level of illiteracy that people started using it......if it were nipped in the bud from day one (by a supposed "grammar nazi", it wouldn't have spread to infect everything.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    ^ That emotion is more annoying than any spelling mistake.

    Just as well considering you spelt "emoticon" wrong. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,244 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Absolutely. It's one of those things that tells me I'm dealing with someone who pays attention to what they're doing. If they can't spot a spelling mistake, they might not spot an item on an order, an important detail.

    It reminds me of Van Halen's infamous Brown M&M Clause in their concert contracts. It wasn't just to give the promoters a hard time: it was to check that they read the whole thing and did exactly what was requested. If they saw a brown M&M, they'd have crew do additional safety checks on the stage (electrical, rigging etc.), because people could get killed if those things were not right. Details matter.

    Government resting upon the will and universal suffrage of the people has no anchorage except in the people's intelligence.

    — Grover Cleveland



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,696 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    The odd typo on Boards, or spelling error, isn't too much of a problem, as various people have said, not everyone has the same standard of written English. I do hate text-speak, endless sentences with no punctuation, and words that are mixed up so you have no idea which one was meant.

    Some of these have gone into general use, lose seems to have disappeared in favour of loose, does has become dose, to and too are interchangeable, taught and thought, and lots of others. As they creep into newspapers and magazines it is going to become more and more difficult to establish what the author is trying to say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    People misusing "their", "there" and "they're" as well as "your" and "you're".

    Always makes me wonder are they idiots or just lazy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭Elba101


    My pet hate is text speak. Can't stand it!!! I can understand people using 2m, 2n and 2d to save character space but when poeple spell of 'ov' i just can't handle it. Why would you do this??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    People misusing "their", "there" and "they're" as well as "your" and "you're".

    Always makes me wonder are they idiots or just lazy.

    Maybe they're neither of the above, have you considered that perhaps?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Maybe they're neither of the above, have you considered that perhaps?

    What else could they be? :confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 449 ✭✭Emiko


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    What else could they be? :confused:

    Dare.

    Yore.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    there's a lot more important things in our lives to worry about than grammar and spelling online!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Noo


    Emiko wrote: »
    Dare.

    Yore.

    Hahahaha love it. "Dare" I understand but I really hope that anyone using "yore" in a sentence will have the ability to spell the word and others correctly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,418 ✭✭✭✭hondasam


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    People misusing "their", "there" and "they're" as well as "your" and "you're".

    Always makes me wonder are they idiots or just lazy.

    give us some examples on how to use these word correctly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 433 ✭✭raveni


    I would care about spelling if it was on a site that I was buying something off, when you come across scams, so often they have spelling mistakes or it's in broken english, so it would make me question the legitimacy more of a site than if the spelling was fine. But perfect spelling and grammar is no guarantee that the site is above board. Even if everything is perfect about the site, if it's one I haven't used before/heard of, I'd look for reviews, etc.

    If it's online, I wouldn't be too bothered. If it's in a newspaper, essay, or book, then of course you expect perfect/near perfect (typos happen) spelling and grammar. But I don't get why people get so uptight about it when it's online and by people they've never met in their lives. Not to mention you don't know their circumstances, the person could have difficulties, be dyslexic, English might not be their first language, or just not absolutely perfect at spelling and grammar, which isn't the end of the world. But there is a point where you know if they're doing it on purpose...I don't like text speak, especially when it's thick it's like trying to decipher hieroglyphs. You want to be able to comprehend a sentence at least, however, perfect spelling and grammar aren't necessary to be able to do that.

    Some good points here:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    Back to the gist of the OP, from the BBC today:
    Spelling mistakes 'cost millions' in lost online sales

    By Sean Coughlan BBC News education correspondent

    An online entrepreneur says that poor spelling is costing the UK millions of pounds in lost revenue for internet businesses. Charles Duncombe says an analysis of website figures shows a single spelling mistake can cut online sales in half.
    Mr Duncombe says when recruiting staff he has been "shocked at the poor quality of written English". Sales figures suggest misspellings put off consumers who could have concerns about a website's credibility, he says.
    The concerns were echoed by the Confederation of British Industry (CBI), whose head of education and skills warned that too many employers were having to invest in remedial literacy lessons for their staff.

    Written word

    Mr Duncombe, who runs travel, mobile phones and clothing websites, says that poor spelling is a serious problem for the online economy.
    "Often these cutting-edge companies depend upon old-fashioned skills," says Mr Duncombe. And he says that the struggle to recruit enough staff who can spell means that this sector of the economy is not as efficient as it might be.
    Figures from the Office for National Statistics published last month showed internet sales in the UK running at £527m per week.
    "I know that industry bemoaning the education system is nothing new but it is becoming more and more of a problem with more companies going online.
    "This is because when you sell or communicate on the internet, 99% of the time it is done by the written word."
    Mr Duncombe says that it is possible to identify the specific impact of a spelling mistake on sales.
    He says he measured the revenue per visitor to the tightsplease.co.uk website and found that the revenue was twice as high after an error was corrected.
    "If you project this across the whole of internet retail, then millions of pounds worth of business is probably being lost each week due to simple spelling mistakes," says Mr Duncombe, director of the Just Say Please group.
    Spelling is important to the credibility of a website, he says. When there are underlying concerns about fraud and safety, then getting the basics right is essential.
    "You get about six seconds to capture the attention on a website."
    When recruiting school and university leavers, Mr Duncombe says too many applications have contained spelling mistakes or poor grammar.
    "Some people even used text speak in their cover letter," he says.
    Even among those who appeared to be able to spell, he says that a written test, without access to a computer spellchecker, revealed further problems with spelling.
    William Dutton, director of the Oxford Internet Institute at Oxford University, says that in some informal parts of the internet, such as Facebook, there is greater tolerance towards spelling and grammar.
    "However, there are other aspects, such as a home page or commercial offering that are not among friends and which raise concerns over trust and credibility," said Professor Dutton.
    "In these instances, when a consumer might be wary of spam or phishing efforts, a misspelt word could be a killer issue."
    James Fothergill, the CBI's head of education and skills, said: "Our recent research shows that 42% of employers are not satisfied with the basic reading and writing skills of school and college leavers and almost half have had to invest in remedial training to get their staff's skills up to scratch.
    "This situation is a real concern and the government must make the improvement of basic literacy and numeracy skills of all school and college leavers a top priority."
    Seriously, putting textspeak in a job application? University grads who do that don't deserve jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 32,687 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    Text speak, bad grammar and spelling mistakes annoy me in that order.

    Text speak is just being lazy.

    Understanding the difference between "there" and "their" is not that hard.

    Honestly, does collage actually look or sound correct when you are talking about college?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,696 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    there's a lot more important things in our lives to worry about than grammar and spelling online!

    Well that is true, you can always say that about any discussion on Boards. It is also true that language is changing faster than anything since the great vowel shift, yes we survived that, but the written word has never been so important at any time in history as it is now.

    We seem to be attempting to go through a phase that will be identified in the future something like this: (back translation)

    'In the early 21st century the phenomenon occurred which ultimately destroyed written English. It is thought that the word 'txtspk' was associated with this fast decline. There is a theory that this is a corruption of 'text speak', but it is not clear why the vowels were eliminated, or what the two words together imply.

    The culmination of this decline occurred after the London Crisis; millions had died as a result of misinterpreted information relating to the development of clean power, and the consequent destruction of a large section of the European coastline.

    The problem was traced to the use of mid-London (Midlun) interpretations of instructions which had been written in Midlands (Midlan) English but translated by a South Coast (Soco) speaker who was not aware of the significance of the difference between the 'a' and the 'u' in the two language variations.

    The World Power ruled that since English was no longer reliable, all future written communication would be through the medium of Chinese.'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭seanbmc


    Wouldn't call myself a Grammar Nazi, but I do think "Some1 dat typs like dis" is a complete and utter half wit.

    If I see someone's post riddled with text speak or grammar mistakes, I can't take them seriously at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭Cottontail


    Cydoniac wrote: »
    I guess I'm just overly sensitive when people misspell words like grammar, your/you're, their/there/they're.

    Me too. Another common mistake I've noticed a lot recently is when people write 'could of' instead of 'could have'.

    If people thought more about what they were writing instead of just spilling out all their thoughts and pressing 'send' it would make reading it a lot easier. I work a lot with email queries and incorrect spelling and grammar just annoy me. As mentioned previously, it just smacks of carelessness and unprofessionalism.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,029 ✭✭✭✭Chuck Stone


    However I'd never be a grammar Nazi and point the mistakes out, unless the person making the mistakes were trying to be a grammar Nazi themselves.

    This^^.

    I've corrected spelling maybe once in the 1600 posts I have and it was only after someone pulled me up on a spelling mistake (I returned the favour with interest).

    The thing about me is that, when I type, my thoughts race ahead so itsasif the wurds are tryingg tocatch upwith thhe thoughtsfpij gf;ojlknhgleq;hgqih£g/'lreoh$gorj@dmoiu@#gdcfvjtyfghie74#69872hrn#flkhvbnd.

    *Puff* *pant* *puff* *pant*


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