Why don't smokers regard cig' butts as litter

zenno · 13-07-2011 05:41PM

Knasher wrote: »

Whenever my flatmates girlfriend comes over she covers the balcony in butts. I can kinda understand why people do it on the street, it's an asshole move but, you quickly move on and blend into the crowd. But when you're a guest in somebodies home and the only one there who smokes, it doesn't take a genius to realise that your littering my apartment.

she is just an idiot with no respect for her surroundings or her flatmates I mean that's why they invented ashtrays. does she even know what an ashtray is ? ask her next time.

13-07-2011 05:45PM

Id never throw litter on the ground but when I smoked I always flicked butts on the ground or out the window of the car, just never thought of it as litter (although it obviously is) as its so common for people to do it.

Mike 1972 · 13-07-2011 05:46PM

cursai wrote: »

Why don't non smokers regard Supermacs wrappers as litter

Non Smokers > Supermacs Clientelle

latenia · 13-07-2011 05:51PM

We pay over €1 billion a year in excise duty with nothing in return except cancer and heart disease so I think this little misdemeanour is allowable. If there's no bin around I'll look for a shore to flick it into, otherwise it'll go in the gutter.

I await being called filthy littering scum...

Pace2008 · 13-07-2011 05:56PM

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Wha?

I'm guessing he was trying to say "I don't use tips," by which I'd say he means he smokes rollies with no filter, in which case the cigarette would be completely biodegradable.

Ghost Buster · 13-07-2011 05:57PM

latenia wrote: »

We pay over €1 billion a year in excise duty with nothing in return except cancer and heart disease so I think this little misdemeanour is allowable. If there's no bin around I'll look for a shore to flick it into, otherwise it'll go in the gutter.

I await being called filthy littering scum...

I dont. :rolleyes:

NoDice · 13-07-2011 05:57PM

It infuriates me.

I actually regard it to be as bad as spitting. Disgusting walking through a nice park and there are cig butts everywhere despite there being bins every couple of feet. Or even worse, where I wait for the bus it seems the smokers there have a secret competition running to see how far they can flick their cigarette. Really disgusts me.

Ha ha, actually (and I laugh because I think my dog is part jack russel, part king charles and part rtard) I was walking my dog the other day. She has a habit, when she gets tired, of letting her tongue hang out when she's walking. She has a pretty long tongue and very short legs.. Anyway, it acts like a spoon when she's dragging it along. She turned around at one point and had about 2 or 3 cig butts stuck to it. Puke. Poor doggy! :pac:

By the way I'm a smoker.

Mike 1972 · 13-07-2011 06:01PM

latenia wrote: »

We pay over €1 billion a year in excise duty.

Motorists pay even more.

So I can now drive/park like an antisocial pr1ck with complete impunity ?

pablomakaveli · 13-07-2011 06:02PM

I used to work in a railway station for a summer job and had to sweep up all the hundreds fag butts around the outside of the station.

Funnily enough none of the smokers ever threw the butts on the ground when i was sweeping a few metres from them.

cursai · 13-07-2011 06:03PM

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Well what?

Seriously! Per size of litter. This report is telling me that if we put all the cig butts into one heap and any other litter into another heap. The fag heap would be almost equal less 5%.

Come on now. Get up owwa that garden!

Ghost Buster · 13-07-2011 06:03PM

Pace2008 wrote: »

I'm guessing he was trying to say "I don't use tips," by which I'd say he means he smokes rollies with no filter, in which case the cigarette would be completely biodegradable.

So? Fruit and veg and paper is biodegradeable so is it ok to chuck that on the streets?

TheZohanS · 13-07-2011 06:07PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Motorists pay even more.

So I can now drive/park like an antisocial pr1ck with complete impunity ?

Only if you smoke and drive.

cursai · 13-07-2011 06:12PM

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Motorists pay even more.

So I can now drive/park like an antisocial pr1ck with complete impunity ?

I just flicked a fag butt at your username in disgust!:)

Anyways i found proof to the contrary.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2003/aug/07/shopping.health

Ghost Buster · 13-07-2011 06:14PM

cursai wrote: »

Seriously! Per size of litter. This report is telling me that if we put all the cig butts into one heap and any other litter into another heap. The fag heap would be almost equal less 5%.

Come on now. Get up owwa that garden!

Ah well if its relative scale that you are hung up on then what is the ratio between smokers and non smokers i wonder....
Then take a peek outside any hospital entrance, pub door way or such and compare smokers litter to any other. Shucks theres even as many butts as burger boxes out side of Supermacs and they dont sell cigs!

Seachmall · 13-07-2011 06:17PM

cowzerp wrote: »

You have to be a moron to smoke so maybe thats your answer.

Smoking is evolutionarily novel which would suggest intelligent people are more likely to smoke than others.

The more ya' know.

Ghost Buster · 13-07-2011 06:19PM

Seachmall wrote: »

Smoking is evolutionarily novel which would suggest intelligent people are more likely to smoke than others.

The more ya' know.

Once upon a time........ back in the days when Camels were the cigarette of choice amongst American Doctors etc
The more ya know indeed.

Emiko · 13-07-2011 06:25PM

I was reading recently that just one cigarette butt will toxify a litre of water, and kill half the species contained therein.

So don't put your cigarettes out in your goldfish bowl.

3ndahalfof6 · 13-07-2011 06:44PM

As a smoker myself, I think its A disgrace, to think all of the new laws introduced to try to wipe us out, flicking a cigarette butt when just finished smoking your latest coffin nail (some people say) is the completion act,

it is one of the last few connections we have to the Irishness of the past, trying to take this away from us is a human rights violation,

if this was an native American tradition there would be people crawling from every corner to shout, scream, chain themselves to stuff,

but nooooooooo not in good ould Ireland, lets get rid of our heritage with closed eyes.

I am so annoyed right now, when will the Irish pull together and save what little we have left.

Knasher · 13-07-2011 07:01PM

3ndahalfof6 wrote: »

As a smoker myself, I think its A disgrace, to think all of the new laws introduced to try to wipe us out, flicking a cigarette butt when just finished smoking your latest coffin nail (some people say) is the completion act,

it is one of the last few connections we have to the Irishness of the past, trying to take this away from us is a human rights violation,

if this was an native American tradition there would be people crawling from every corner to shout, scream, chain themselves to stuff,

but nooooooooo not in good ould Ireland, lets get rid of our heritage with closed eyes.

I am so annoyed right now, when will the Irish pull together and save what little we have left.

Smoking part of our Irish heritage??? Being told to not litter is a human rights violation??? I strongly suspect you're only having a laugh so I won't rise to the bait and argue against that. Because seriously, that's just silly.

pablomakaveli · 13-07-2011 07:38PM

3ndahalfof6 wrote: »

As a smoker myself, I think its A disgrace, to think all of the new laws introduced to try to wipe us out, flicking a cigarette butt when just finished smoking your latest coffin nail (some people say) is the completion act,

it is one of the last few connections we have to the Irishness of the past, trying to take this away from us is a human rights violation,

if this was an native American tradition there would be people crawling from every corner to shout, scream, chain themselves to stuff,

but nooooooooo not in good ould Ireland, lets get rid of our heritage with closed eyes.

I am so annoyed right now, when will the Irish pull together and save what little we have left.

Ya screw the poor sods that have to clean up after you. I'm sure knowing they're preserving your "heritage" will be adequate consolation.

Irish Guitarist · 13-07-2011 07:50PM

Maybe they do regard them as litter but they don't give a crap. I often see smokers unwrapping a new packet of cigarettes and dropping the plastic on the ground.

A while ago I saw someone standing around smoking in the doorway of a pub. There was one of those cigarette disposal bins on the wall right beside him. Rather than throwing his cigarette butt into this bin that was within arms reach he walked about ten feet into the middle of the path, dropped his cigarette butt there and then went back to where he had been standing.

Esoteric_ · 13-07-2011 08:00PM

pablomakaveli wrote: »

Ya screw the poor sods that have to clean up after you. I'm sure knowing they're preserving your "heritage" will be adequate consolation.

So what you're saying is, us smokers are providing people with jobs (albeit cleaning jobs)? So really, smokers are saving the Irish economy! HELL YES! REJOICE! THROW YOUR BUTTS ON THE ROAD!

Chuck Stone · 13-07-2011 08:13PM

Nicotine addiction is bloody hard to break.

I just wanted to say that.

Hank Scorpio · 13-07-2011 08:35PM

Last time I put a butt in a bin it went on fire, true story.

BTW, anyone saying only morons smoke etc, boo-hoo, chances are you`ll end up with cancer anyway

This thread has been done to death(pun), and the same big headed smugness still remains

The King of Moo · 13-07-2011 08:37PM

3ndahalfof6 wrote: »

As a smoker myself, I think its A disgrace, to think all of the new laws introduced to try to wipe us out, flicking a cigarette butt when just finished smoking your latest coffin nail (some people say) is the completion act,

it is one of the last few connections we have to the Irishness of the past, trying to take this away from us is a human rights violation,

if this was an native American tradition there would be people crawling from every corner to shout, scream, chain themselves to stuff,

but nooooooooo not in good ould Ireland, lets get rid of our heritage with closed eyes.

I am so annoyed right now, when will the Irish pull together and save what little we have left.

Ah yes, our heritage, comely maidens dancing at the crossroads, flicking their fag butts on the ground as they do so

.

How is it part of our heritage? You know they also smoke in other countries, don't you?
I really hope you were just joking.

nessy382 · 13-07-2011 08:40PM

Temptamperu wrote: »

i would never dream of flicking a but on the ground, I have a system where i twist the mickey off and wait till i find a bin to discard the butt.

sure where would we put the butt in our pocket.. stop out that. hardly able to carry an ashtray around lol

nessy382 · 13-07-2011 08:41PM

LyndaMcL wrote: »

So what you're saying is, us smokers are providing people with jobs (albeit cleaning jobs)? So really, smokers are saving the Irish economy! HELL YES! REJOICE! THROW YOUR BUTTS ON THE ROAD!

hahaha thats it.. like seriously your hardly able to carry a butt around in your pocket haha

dev100 · 13-07-2011 08:55PM

I detest seeing anyone dumping fag butts out of a car. It absolutely sickens me seeing this usually flash the lights at them :mad: and they know theyve done wrong. Lesson theyll soon learn its quite easy if you see this happening Jot down the reg number of car time and details ring council for litter wardens number and complain. Im told what happens is they get a fine in post. Most people will pay this so that they wont want to go to court .

Hmmm must start doing this

Knasher · 13-07-2011 09:39PM

nessy382 wrote: »

hahaha thats it.. like seriously your hardly able to carry a butt around in your pocket haha

You can get little metal airtight containers that you can put the fag butts into.

Yes, I'm basing this totally off the loading sceen of Metal Gear Solid 3.

Tayla · 13-07-2011 09:50PM

dev100 wrote: »

Jot down the reg number of car time and details ring council for litter wardens number and complain. Im told what happens is they get a fine in post. Most people will pay this so that they wont want to go to court .

Hmmm must start doing this

Eh I would be very surprised if anyone would pay a fine like that, there would be no proof for a start

Why don't smokers regard cig' butts as litter

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