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Broadband in Drogheda Dublin Rd area.

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  • #92
    ingen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭ingen


    irishjig69b wrote: »
    u should contact me......i can give u 8meg next generation broadband


    i seriously doubt that.


  • #93
    szines
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32 ✭szines


    fitzyp wrote: »
    Had a sales call from Imagine this evening. I said to the chap that Wheaton Hall didn't have the best reputation for WiMax and he asked if the users I knew had the indoor or the ourdoor antenna? (I didn't realise they did an outdoor antenna).
    He then said that they have an outdoor antenna that is installed for a one off fee of €150.
    Has anyone tried the outdoor antenna as opposed to the indoor one? And if so, how was it?

    Thanks

    I live by Wheaton Hall and Dublin Road corner. I get strongest signal in my window, instead of great signal is it impossible to use this Wimax internet service. I should get 7 Mb, but in peak time I have to use my mobile broadband sticky if I would like to read some news...


  • #94
    irishjig69b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭irishjig69b


    IF U HATE EIRCOM SO MUCH WHY DONT U JUST **** OFF AND GO SOME WERE ELSE FOR UR BB SERVICE.........EIRCOM THIS,, EIRCOM THAT,, JUST **** OFF....GO 2 WIMAX,VODAFIONE,IMAGINE OR EVEN TRY PURE...U WILL FIND THE SAME SERVICE OF BB OR A LOT LESS NGB WILL BE THERE WHEN IT'S THERE....ENOUGH NOW ITS BORING.........


  • #95
    delly
    Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 7,809 Mod ✭✭✭✭delly


    irishjig69 banned for a week for abusive posting.


  • #96
    irishjig69b
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 312 ✭✭irishjig69b


    i stand over what i said............the 1 person moaning here bout eircom.....alot......what service u using for ur posts????? is it eircom maybe???? would that be the same company u are moaning bout????the same company witch is providing u with a phone and bb????and u are cripping and moaning bout them????? pot and black comes to mind....:D


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  • #97
    ingen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭ingen


    irishjig69b wrote: »
    i stand over what i said............the 1 person moaning here bout eircom.....alot......what service u using for ur posts????? is it eircom maybe???? would that be the same company u are moaning bout????the same company witch is providing u with a phone and bb????and u are cripping and moaning bout them????? pot and black comes to mind....:D

    do you work for eircom?


  • #98
    positron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,564 ✭✭✭positron


    irishjig69, in fairness, thank you for trying to help me with a better connection. Unfortunately it didn't work out as your contact confirmed to me (I am not sure if he updated you or not), the distance problem with the underlying telephone line infrastructure is going to be a bottleneck even if I sign up to NGB. So with the speed and connection reliability issues remaining as they are, switching to NGB would have done nothing me, other than reducing my current Vodafone download quota of 30 GB to NGB's 10 GB.

    (Speaking of the download cap, yesterday DICE released a patch for Battlefield Bad Company 2 on PS3 and it was nearly 1800 mb - and I had to download it twice. With sizes like that I am sure you can see how NGB's 10 GB limit would be a bit of a problem for me - and I don't even torrent movies or anything like that.)

    The general dissatisfaction that broadband users of Dublin Road area like Ingen and I share is purely to do with the underlying telephone line infrastructure - that all ISPs are effected by at the moment. We are hooked to an exchange too far away, and there are newer exchanges nearby and I was told that they have the additional capacity to handle more volumes as well, yet eircom won't do anything to improve the situation for us. So unless cable internet providers like UPC comes to Drogheda, we are stuck with existing eircom infrastructure. I agree what eircom is providing now is crucial and very important, there is no denying the fact that it is way behind what it should be, or what it could be, and it's particularly sad when our neighbors down the road (Grangerath) or other side of the road (Bryanston/Martello village etc) enjoy nearly 4-8 times the speed we get!! This is basis of the general bitterness towards eircom, it's not personal to anyone like yourself who works in eircom, so please don't take it that way, and like I said, thank you for trying to help!


  • #99
    JHet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭JHet


    Hi Guys,

    I too am one of the beleaguered ppl on the dublin road area who has to suffer the woes of substandard dsl broadband on the dublin road. Having read most of the thread I'm just astonished at the amount of research you guys have done on this!! Amazing stuff. It just pisses me off how incompetent eircom are and how poor the service is they provide for the high price that they charge. We really are third world in terms of our broadband infrastructure in this country especially outside dublin.

    With the above in mind I'm just wondering if anyone have considered getting on to Conor Pope about the situation. For anyone who doesn't know he's the consumer affairs guy who appears on the today fm show most mondays, not on today cos he's sick! He also writes for the Irish times I believe. The guy seems to have a lot of clout and a lot of the companies seem to be scared of him!!!.....especially the banks!!! We could do up some generic email and all send it to him.
    Way i see is the problem is quite simple:

    1. Dublin road users are connected to the DBC exhange on patrick street street which is only 4mb.
    2. CLXA Exchange in Grangerath is closer and faster @ 24mb.
    3. Eircom need to put infrastructure in place to allow us to connect to this exhange.

    What do you reckon guys?......i reckon we'd have more chance of getting something done quickly with him on the case than any local politican!!

    I know others have suggested Digiweb etc but to honest I think we all know good quality DSL broadband is the only way to go here, lower pings, faster (when right infrastructure in place!!!) and finally more reliable (probably the most important aspect)

    Thanks


  • #100
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    Eircom can't go about rerouting thousands of copper wires to a smallish shed at Colpe Cross!

    The solution is for eircom to start investing in their network generally by providing fibre-fed cabinets for areas such as along the Dublin road. This would be cheaper than digging up the entirety of the Dublin road and having to rebuild an exchange etc. It would also offer better speeds than shortening lines from 5km to 2km. Though I think that Five Oaks should be moved to Colpe Cross or indeed the Deepforde fibre-fed cabinet if there was capacity.


    This idea of rerouting copper cables is from a bygone era. The future now is for fibre being brought closer to customers, not the other way around.

    Ignoring eircom, the provision of some sort of cable TV network in this part of the world would be fantastic but I don't think UPC are going to pull the finger out any time soon. Net1 once offered Grange Rath residents the option of a cable broadband network (back in the days before eircom offered service there) but the residents didn't want the required cable strung from roof to roof. It could have been unsightly on the poor wee fascia board. Ignorant luddites. I've literally heard of someone in Dublin who had to argue with a neighbour because the neighbour stopped UPC from upgrading the last bit of their street:rolleyes:


  • #101
    JHet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭JHet


    Hey To_be_confirmed, thanks for your reply. I think we are on the same page here mate. You certainly know more about the semantics of exactly what needs to be done but I think we are both agreed that its going to require some infrastructure investment.
    My point is that as is always the case in this wonderful little country of ours, those who shout the loudest usually get what they want quicker. The problem is as a nation we generally do not complain enough. My intention would be to put some pressure on eircom from whatever resources we can leverage. The way i see we potentially could leverage a couple of different avenues:

    1. Knowledge is Power. A quick google search revealed that eircom have rolled out some of the said fibre-fed cabinets in most of Dublin and most likely other counties. To_be_confirmed you could probably correct me on this.......but If we could get some ideas of the costings etc to add a couple of cabs on the dublin road, we could certainly make a case for ourselves about the inconsistancy of eircoms service in such a close proximity of housing estates, why people just a couple of hundred metres down the road are paying the exactly same price for a worse service. It really is crazy when you think about it, it wouldn't be accepted in, in France, in the Uk etc, and when you think about it guys we are one of the bigger towns on the east coast.
    2. Its not what you know its who you know: we need to have someone on our side who is a) eircom will listen b) is willing to make a case for us based of the information we gather from point one. Whether thats Conor Pope or a local TD, i don't care, whatever gets the job done, but we need someone who's willing to make the case for use (Fergus and Jed seem like the most likely candidates in that regard or certainly the ones who have bigger sticks than the other politicans at the moment!!! :)).

    I'd like to get some feedback from everyone who's contributed here or if you haven't feel free to put down your two cents. How far did we get with leveraging the old local politicians!!!! Fine Gael have committed to the improvement of the BB infrastructure and its going to be a big part of their plans for growth in the next 4 yrs. This is good, as what we want is in line with their agenda so we're really only asking for things that they have already agreed to improve. There's no reason why we can't put a bit of pressure on and get bumped up the list on this, after all Drogheda is one of the larger towns on the east coast so i don't see why they wouldn't want to have a good infrastructure base here in that regard.


    Thanks


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  • #102
    positron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,564 ✭✭✭positron


    JHet, welcome to the land of frustrated users and 90s!

    I agree with your points above. We do need to make our case strongly and in detail. Would it help to know how many people this would benefit, and how many have an active interest in the issue? May be a bit of campainging in the local estate / cul-de-sac might be the way to go?

    Count me in for a signature, or to hold a placard etc!


  • #103
    JHet
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 525 ✭✭✭JHet


    Hey positron, thanks for your reply, I think if we knew the number, yes that would certainly be a help and indeed signatures would give us more power. I think we need to establish if our case is viable first though. There's no point in collecting hundreds of signatures if eircom just turn round and say, 'no' it would be too costly but if we knew what be involved and that it would be relatively easy for eircom to do then that would give us more power! As i say there are people on here that are far more knowledge than me with regard to the technicalities etc so I'd be interested to here their thoughts.

    Thanks


  • #104
    ferpur
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭ferpur


    louth coco are looking for people to fill in a survey of there broadband speed go to louthcoco.ie and click the survey link
    :)


  • #105
    positron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,564 ✭✭✭positron


    Thanks for the heads up, ferpur! I've filled in the form and gave them a link to this thread as well, just in case if they feel the need to get more details.


  • #106
    ingen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭ingen


    JHet wrote: »
    Hey positron, thanks for your reply, I think if we knew the number, yes that would certainly be a help and indeed signatures would give us more power. I think we need to establish if our case is viable first though. There's no point in collecting hundreds of signatures if eircom just turn round and say, 'no' it would be too costly but if we knew what be involved and that it would be relatively easy for eircom to do then that would give us more power! As i say there are people on here that are far more knowledge than me with regard to the technicalities etc so I'd be interested to here their thoughts.

    Thanks
    this has already been done, and eircom do not want to know. according to eircom senior management, it does not meet the "hurdle rates".

    this has been highlighted to eircom senior management and their major shareholder, who are not in the slightest interested!! I have pushed it as far as i can, and FG were of no use what so ever.!

    so there, you go, Ireland in 2011.............


  • #107
    Mylow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭Mylow


    To_be_confirmed wrote: »
    Net1 once offered Grange Rath residents the option of a cable broadband network (back in the days before eircom offered service there) but the residents didn't want the required cable strung from roof to roof. It could have been unsightly on the poor wee fascia board. Ignorant luddites. I've literally heard of someone in Dublin who had to argue with a neighbour because the neighbour stopped UPC from upgrading the last bit of their street:rolleyes:

    I have lived in Grange Rath for 6 years and was involved with residents association. I have never heard any mention of NET1 offering to cable the estate. They may have approached the developer, Digiweb had a mast in the estate, not sure if it is still there. I originally had Digiweb, NET1 said they couldn't provide wireless service. The "ignorant luddites" are our town planners who didn't insist on infrastructure to be installed by developer to allow cable provider or providers to use a shared cable route. I have emails I sent to NET1 (Andrew McKeever) in relation to broadband in Grange Rath in 2005, they said they did not offer the service then. I had a list of 40 people then who were interested in getting BB from any provider.


  • #108
    Mylow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭Mylow


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    Grange Rath
    Been with UTV since February 07, only had one outage that I am aware of. The service has been rock solid.

    The package (Clicksilver Plus - no longer available) I am on includes unlimited cap, the newer tariffs have a 75gb cap. Just be aware of that if your thinking of signing up with them.
    I currently pay €55.34 this includes off-peak calls to IRL & UK landlines.


  • #109
    lucernarian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭lucernarian


    Mylow wrote: »
    I have lived in Grange Rath for 6 years and was involved with residents association. I have never heard any mention of NET1 offering to cable the estate. They may have approached the developer, Digiweb had a mast in the estate, not sure if it is still there. I originally had Digiweb, NET1 said they couldn't provide wireless service. The "ignorant luddites" are our town planners who didn't insist on infrastructure to be installed by developer to allow cable provider or providers to use a shared cable route. I have emails I sent to NET1 (Andrew McKeever) in relation to broadband in Grange Rath in 2005, they said they did not offer the service then. I had a list of 40 people then who were interested in getting BB from any provider.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=51385752&postcount=9


  • #110
    Mylow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 801 ✭✭✭Mylow


    The post refers to a committee, a bit ambiguous. There is a management company, then the company that owns the common areas (Rockmill Limited) and the residents association. The confusion caused by people not understanding the difference between residents association and the management company is what made most people quit the residents association. The common ares are still owned by Rockmill and they are probably the ones who had NET1 had the discussions with. Any changes that happen within the estate are done through SPM and Rockmill. The residents association has zero clout.

    Just carried out a check on a 041 981 8*** phone number, came up that 24mb service avaialble. The NGB migration map has Grange Rath as unknown? I know some of neighbours here are still having issues getting BB. Being told exchange has reached capacity.


  • #111
    ingen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭ingen


    i see Vodafone sales, are doing the rounds today, selling their DSL packages.

    seems they are after eircom customers so she said.

    prices were not that great, she had a vodafone ID so they were vodafone staff.


    things must be bad if they are doing door to door sales.


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  • #112
    noelcosgrave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭noelcosgrave


    Mylow wrote: »
    Digiweb had a mast in the estate, not sure if it is still there.
    The mast was never in the estate. According to someone I spoke to at Digiweb, it was on the side of a barn in a farm on the other side of the tracks and didn't have great coverage. I've suggested to Digiweb that they install a mast on the Southgate white-elephant, as this would give them line-of-sight to much of the south side of the town. The response of the person I was speaking to is that they would be unlikely to be investing in infrastructure during a recession. Never mind the fact that a recession is exactly the right time to do so, if you have the necessary capital!


  • #113
    noelcosgrave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭noelcosgrave


    ingen wrote: »
    i see Vodafone sales, are doing the rounds today, selling their DSL packages.

    seems they are after eircom customers so she said.

    prices were not that great, she had a vodafone ID so they were vodafone staff.
    Had them at my door last night. Two of them, but separately and approximately 40 minutes apart. The first guy claimed that his manager told him I could get up to 24Mb/s. I checked it on the Vodafone site last night, and sure enough, it says I can. How this is possible when my line has trouble holding sync at anything over 2Mb/s is beyond me.


  • #114
    ferpur
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 122 ✭✭ferpur


    noelcosgrave wrote: »
    Had them at my door last night. Two of them, but separately and approximately 40 minutes apart. The first guy claimed that his manager told him I could get up to 24Mb/s. I checked it on the Vodafone site last night, and sure enough, it says I can. How this is possible when my line has trouble holding sync at anything over 2Mb/s is beyond me.

    the important words here are up to what they mean by that is 24mb/s from the exchange but by the time it gets to you it is breaking up so they turn down to 2mb/s less break down and you are back where you started


  • #115
    noelcosgrave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭noelcosgrave


    ferpur wrote: »
    the important words here are up to what they mean by that is 24mb/s from the exchange but by the time it gets to you it is breaking up so they turn down to 2mb/s less break down and you are back where you started
    Yes, I'm aware of the implications of the "up to" part of the description. However, as my line patently can't cope with anything above above a primitive 2Mb/s, I would have thought the pre-qual process could identify that and only offer me the lower package of "up to" 8Mb/s. It is quite frankly deceptive to be offering the higher speed when the line can't even make the lower speed.


  • #116
    positron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,564 ✭✭✭positron


    What's this news on radio about eircom going to roll out some sort of fiber powered broadband service all over the country, 150k households, by next summer. Does this mean they will finally replace the crappy line that's running to my house with something that's not 19th century technology? Sounds too good to be true, but may be this is why Vodafone has mobilized their sales army around Drogheda?


  • #117
    noelcosgrave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 28 ✭noelcosgrave


    positron wrote: »
    What's this news on radio about eircom going to roll out some sort of fiber powered broadband service all over the country, 150k households, by next summer. Does this mean they will finally replace the crappy line that's running to my house with something that's not 19th century technology? Sounds too good to be true, but may be this is why Vodafone has mobilized their sales army around Drogheda?

    Eircom rolling out "fibre-powered" broadband is old news. The "fibre-powered" bit is just a tad misleading, as all it means is that fibre is used somewhere on the backhaul. It does not mean fibre to the cabinet (FTTC), which is the minimum we should expect in this day and age. Then again, I suppose this is the reality of Ireland, the self-confessed "digital hub".


  • #118
    ingen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭ingen


    positron wrote: »
    What's this news on radio about eircom going to roll out some sort of fiber powered broadband service all over the country, 150k households, by next summer. Does this mean they will finally replace the crappy line that's running to my house with something that's not 19th century technology? Sounds too good to be true, but may be this is why Vodafone has mobilized their sales army around Drogheda?


    dont get your hopes up! i doubt Drogheda / Dublin Rd area will see any improvments any time soon.


  • #119
    calex71
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,126 ✭✭✭✭calex71


    It's gas I'm getting my broadband and TV in every room in the house in Dublin, 25MB connection for little more than my folks get Vodafone BB in drogheda for when you include line rental with Eircon.

    Let's hope Drogheda sees a fibre upgrade soon, they have told me vodafine BB has been very poor this week in terms of download speed. Anyone else have issues ???


  • #120
    positron
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,564 ✭✭✭positron


    I hope these things actually comes thru - sick of the sickly 1.x mbps connection. When the Vodafone sales guy called to the house and heard I am already with Vodafone, he literally ran away from the house as fast his lanky legs can take him - poor lad, must have experienced some customer service in reverse. :D

    Yesterdays' news about the mid 2012 plans:
    http://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/item/22898-eircom-100m-plan-to-bring/

    Last month's news about them trialing 150 mbps connections:
    http://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms/item/16593-eircom-to-trial-fibre-to-th

    And the boards thread about this new development:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=73527133


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  • #121
    lawless091
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 ✭lawless091


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    i'm on the 24mb eircom package and i have to say its not that bad. i roughly download at about 1700 kb/s. it takes about 10 mins to download 750mb.
    i live on the town in drogheda so it is still a bit from the exchange in patrick street proberly 1.6km. and its only 60 a month and includes 24mb no cap , unlimited local and nat calls on/off peak. plus 30 min mobile free. :)


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