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Wesley Richards side-by-side shotgun?

  • 08-07-2011 02:13PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭


    Posted for seanybiker:
    Friend has a wesley Richards side by side shotgun.
    He knows its dated from 1902.
    Does anyone know how to get a value or any information on it.
    Thanks.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,072 ✭✭✭cavan shooter


    E mail westley richards with the serial numbers and date etc

    www.westleyrichards.com

    they maybe able to assist


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    Cheers cavan shooter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭rowa


    Stick up a picture if you have one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,787 ✭✭✭deerhunter1


    Sparks wrote: »
    Posted for seanybiker:

    What about Peter J Magee Newport Co. Mayo I think he specialises in english shotguns

    098-41247

    086-2521974


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    rowa wrote: »
    Stick up a picture if you have one

    Ill try get a pic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 558 ✭✭✭fathersymes


    If you search the archives of Holts the largest auctioneer of guns in the UK, you should get some idea.

    http://auctions.holtsauctioneers.com/asp/archivesearch.asp?t=806682&

    Various things will affect value such as:

    Sidelock or Boxlock
    Is it in proof
    Has it been sleeved or new barrels made by a 3rd party supplier
    etc etc.

    A good condition boxlock of that vintage seems to be worth around £2,500 STG
    A Sidelock twice that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,898 ✭✭✭✭seanybiker


    Just talking to him now. He knows the seriel number. Said its nitro proofed whatever that means. As I said only asking for a mate. He said he try get a pic. Domascus barrel on it. Have chaps number to ring thanks to poster above. Cheers for the help lads.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,296 ✭✭✭rowa


    W.w greener were the last british gunmaker to make and use damascus barrels in 1903 , so the westley richards is definately before that year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 737 ✭✭✭sfakiaman


    In light of the following I would get a very competent gunsmith to check out the barrels. Also I think the author meant corrosive primers not non-corrosive. An old gunsmith friend of mine who did a lot of work on old guns was very wary of firing modern ammunition in damascus barrels.

    Damascus or twist-steel barrels are made by layering alternate strips of steel and iron then welding them together. The strips are then twisted until they resembled a screw, three of these wound strips are then welded together, wound around a steel mandrel, then welded and hammered into a barrel tube. Laminated steel barrels are a bit different. They start with a ball of steel and iron that is then hammered into long strips and twisted, then, like their Damascus cousin, wound around a mandrel, welded and hammered into a barrel tube. Inherently, these barrels are quite strong, and many best-quality Damascus barrels pass nitro proof. However, because of the iron content and welded manufacture, twist barrels have a propensity for rusting within the barrel material. Added to that is the fact that these guns were primarily used with non-corrosive priming, and are therefore potentially honeycombed with weak spots. While there are first-quality Damascus Parker and Purdey barrels that can be shot with modern ammunition, most if not all are not up to the task. Briley Manufacturing [(800) 331-5718] can either make full-length tubes of a smaller gauge--20 ga., 28 ga. and .410 bore in a 12 ga.; 28 ga. in an existing 16 ga., etc.--or, provided the barrels are good condition, install steel chamber sleeves of one gauge smaller--12 ga. in a 10 bore, etc.--enabling the use of smokeless-powder ammunition. Shooting these old hammer guns is real fun. Organizations like The Vintagers [(413) 339-5347] are devoted to shooting and keeping alive the tradition of these old guns through clay-target competitions. As much fun as shooting these guns is, safety is the prime consideration, and one should never, ever consider shooting a Damascus, twist or laminated-steel barreled shotgun without first having it inspected by a truly competent gunsmith, and, if necessary, altered by an outfit such as Briley.


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