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Holland set to boot out Polish immigrants who can't find work after 3 months.

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  • #212
    greenybaby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 415 ✭✭greenybaby


    Rosalie Agreeable Carpenter wrote: »
    Think would be against EU rules and the do gooders would have a field day,personally i don't think we are vocal enough in europe like france and britain.
    yes i agree, our vocal abilities are shameful


  • #213
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    lanomist wrote: »
    Great idea,have no problem with Poles or other Europeans coming to work but not to draw welfare, a letter in the Irish Independent a few weeks ago from an Irish lady living in Oslo, her husband is a bus driver there and he is working with a Polish man for the last four years there and the Polish man is drawing dole and childrens allowence from Ireland all that time !!


    Did she say in the letter that her or her husband reported the scrounger?


  • #214
    DWCommuter
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,032 ✭✭✭DWCommuter


    DarylH wrote: »
    I agree. Polish are very productive and are always looking for more work. One polish person I know works for Sky, A Chipper and a Shop. I'd imagine he never sleeps. Also the Polish could also give out most Irish business owners pay Irish people more for half of the work.

    If that is true then it explains why our teenagers can't find any part time work. Productivity must be balanced out by labour laws. These laws are regularly flouted by "Polish that are very productive".*

    *based on my own observations.

    A fair society that provides working opportunities for all cannot and will not be built on this model which Ireland has developed.


  • #215
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    aligator_am wrote: »
    My opinion is that many of the Eastern European tradesmen learned the lazy attitude from Irish tradesmen, fellas used to 6 teabreaks a day.

    What do you expect them to do when they see their Irish bosses drop everything at a moment's notice cause the kettle just boiled?

    Eastern Eurpopeans are crazy hard workers, Asians tend to be the same, they put the vast majority of us Irish to shame on the work front to be honest.

    All the above is true.......in fact I,m in charge of teaching foreign tradesman to be lazy....6 teabreaks a day...mere amateurs ...9 at the very least


  • #216
    deisedave
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭deisedave


    I think they are right but also I would not have a problem if they had the same rule for Irish.


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  • #217
    DarylH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭DarylH


    Crazy Horse 6 wrote: »
    Oh no oh no someone on the interweb is telling me off.:rolleyes: Grow a pair dude. If you don't like my posts argue them don't make childish insults. Now jog on whilst the adults discuss things.

    I have no idea what the **** you are doing but there is no way in Hell you are discussing anything! You have very bad "Opinions" on things and don't type in a mannerly way, you are racist and ignorant.


  • #218
    ahal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 536 ✭✭✭ahal


    aligator_am wrote: »
    My opinion is that many of the Eastern European tradesmen learned the lazy attitude from Irish tradesmen, fellas used to 6 teabreaks a day.

    That's hardly an Irish / Polish (or any other nationality) thing in fairness. It's human nature. If people can slack off most will, regardless of nationality. It's more bad management than laziness.
    aligator_am wrote: »
    What do you expect them to do when they see their Irish bosses drop everything at a moment's notice cause the kettle just boiled?

    I have to say I didn't see much of that during the 'Celtic Tiger' years!
    aligator_am wrote: »
    Eastern Eurpopeans are crazy hard workers, Asians tend to be the same, they put the vast majority of us Irish to shame on the work front to be honest.

    Crazy hard workers or desperate? The two should not be confused. I worked with an Asian guy who had not had a day off in 60 days. He could hardly stand up. I worked with a Nigerian whose wife was about to divorce him because she had not seen him in so long. That isn't a success, it's exploitation.

    I also worked in a place where the Chinese cleaner would get other Chinese to do his work while he went off on another job. This went on for months before it was spotted. An Irish person would have rung in with an excuse and got fired. That doesn't make the Chinese guy a better worker!

    The Irish have a reputation for being among the best workers in the World ... though usually when they leave Ireland and work for people who appreciate them.


  • #219
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ahal wrote: »
    ............

    The Irish have a reputation for being among the best workers in the World ... though usually when they leave Ireland and work for people who appreciate them.

    O yeah.


  • #220
    ahal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 536 ✭✭✭ahal


    Nodin wrote: »
    O yeah.

    Very interesting perspective, if a little long - winded.


  • #221
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    ahal wrote: »
    Very interesting perspective, if a little long - winded.

    Sort of an attempt at a secular "Amen brother".

    I'll be quiet now.


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  • #222
    ahal
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 536 ✭✭✭ahal


    Nodin wrote: »
    Sort of an attempt at a secular "Amen brother".

    I'll be quiet now.

    Lol grand :p

    * Off to put the kettle on ... *


  • #223
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Nodin wrote: »
    Sort of an attempt at a secular "Amen brother".

    I'll be quiet now.

    also "amen brother......."


  • #224
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    ahal wrote: »
    Lol grand :p

    * Off to put the kettle on ... *

    and to yourself "amen..."


  • #225
    Littlehorny
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,351 ✭✭✭Littlehorny


    Iwork with a guy from Poland and only today he told me his brother works in Poland for a German company, he works 230 hours a month for 260 euros! in other words 1.13 an hour. Now you if you or i was getting that we would go anywhere in the world to improve our lot.


  • #226
    DarylH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭DarylH


    TBH to sum up this thread it would be we have concluded.
    %75 of People who posted are Racist.
    %1 Are Idiots (Crazy Horse I'm Looking at you)
    %24 Know how to treat people with respect.
    We all know this will never happen. The UN wont allow it.


  • #227
    Jarren
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Jarren


    So what is after "amen..." ?


  • #228
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    DarylH wrote: »
    TBH to sum up this thread it would be we have concluded.
    %75 of People who posted are Racist.
    %1 Are Idiots (Crazy Horse I'm Looking at you)
    %24 Know how to treat people with respect.
    We all know this will never happen. The UN wont allow it.

    who,s this we Tonto..?


  • #229
    DarylH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭DarylH


    mattjack wrote: »
    who,s this we Tonto..?

    I don't understand you're Question/statement? I don't understand your grammar.


  • #230
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    DarylH wrote: »
    "Also the Polish could also give out most Irish business owners pay Irish people more for half of the work".

    I,m struggling with your grammar too.


  • #231
    DarylH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭DarylH


    mattjack wrote: »
    I,m struggling with your grammar too.

    Thats basically.
    The polish could Rant, Irish business owners pay Irish workmen more than Polish workmen


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  • #232
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    Daryl .. calling people racist and idiots ?


  • #233
    Dionysus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,420 ✭✭✭Dionysus


    man.about.town wrote: »
    not a bad idea at all.. all i know is the social welfare system isnt working here, if this is some way to save alot money im all for it

    It's workin' for me, bud.


    Yours,

    Anto.


  • #234
    toby08
    Closed Accounts Posts: 75 ✭✭toby08


    just noticed on an earlier comment "We all know this will never happen. The UN wont allow it." if anyone is depending on the U.N. for anything i am afraid the cause is lost !!!!! just look at their recent record but I think it is the EU is responsible in this case............


  • #235
    heidi_ho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭heidi_ho


    DarylH wrote: »
    TBH to sum up this thread it would be we have concluded.
    %75 of People who posted are Racist.
    %1 Are Idiots (Crazy Horse I'm Looking at you)
    %24 Know how to treat people with respect.
    We all know this will never happen. The UN wont allow it.


    Not sure where you're getting your statistics from. Just because I would agree to the Dutch doing this does not mean I'm a racist.

    Also as far as I'm aware the UN is only involved if its international law..... this wouldn't be....


  • #236
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    heidi_ho wrote: »
    Not sure where you're getting your statistics from. Just because I would agree to the Dutch doing this does not mean I'm a racist.

    Also as far as I'm aware the UN is only involved if its international law..... this wouldn't be....

    hiedi_ho...I,d say he gets his statistics from his arse.....


  • #237
    heidi_ho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭heidi_ho


    mattjack wrote: »
    hiedi_ho...I,d say he gets his statistics from his arse.....

    I would have to say i have no idea where DarylH is coming from with all of this??

    How would one be a racist for agreeing with this? This is not a racist thing to do, its a country who is trying to protect itself from fraud and prevent itself from being in the mess like this country is in....

    Also whats 24% about??? Respect? For people who spend more than 15 months in a country and make no effort to speak its language? Surely it would be out of respect to try to learn some of the language for the country you are in and are going to try to get money from the government off???

    DarylH your stats and opinions are way off... are you even reading the same words as me?


  • #238
    DarylH
    Closed Accounts Posts: 44 ✭DarylH


    They dont deny Dutch people who are on their Dole for 3 months Money only Foreigners. Also This is Human Rights issue UN Is involved.


  • #239
    heidi_ho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭heidi_ho


    DarylH wrote: »
    They dont deny Dutch people who are on their Dole for 3 months Money only Foreigners. Also This is Human Rights issue UN Is involved.

    One would've thought if the UN could interfere with something like that, then surely they would've stepped in for the 3000+ returning Irish emigrants last year being refused the dole for not having an Irish address for two years+.... where are their Human Rights?

    Plus the Dutch wouldn't have mentioned doing this if they couldn't pull it off seeing as its the 4th major centre for the UN and also The International Court of Justice (UN) is in The Hague....


  • #240
    mattjack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    I dont think this is exclusive to Holland,France and I think a few other European Countries have the three month rule where Bulgarian and Romanian nationals are concerned


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  • #241
    heidi_ho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭heidi_ho


    mattjack wrote: »
    I dont think this is exclusive to Holland,France and I think a few other European Countries have the three month rule where Bulgarian and Romanian nationals are concerned

    I think China recently reformed their system to reflect these countries, it must be working if these countries are following...


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